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Hainbach and SonicLAB's Fundamental for iOS out now

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  • @enkaytee said:

    @Gavinski said:
    Can anyone check if this happens for you: when I select the ‘break me’ preset in standalone, the app crashes immediately (yup - appropriate name for this preset lol)

    That preset works OK for me - the thing that's a little disappointing is that the standalone interface doesn't fill the whole screen on a 10.5" iPad Pro which makes the sliders and such like even smaller...

    Spoke too soon - worked the 1st time I tried but now crashing every time...

  • I’ve emailed the dev, Nige, but you should too, the more the merrier in these cases hehe @enkaytee

  • By the way, anyone bewildered by this or feels they don’t like it, I would strongly recommend reading the manual. This is hundred percent essential for this app. Might take a while before my vid gets up lol

  • Also - the dev just told me that the crash on that preset is intentional. It is indeed a kind of joke, hence the name of the preset @enkaytee

  • @Svetlovska said:
    Here’s my hot take, trying out a few presets with old friends Droneo and IVCS3 and a lorra lorra reverbs:

    Bit of a head scratcher but in a good way, nice for drones.

    Turn ‘trig‘ button on top right hand side on (yellow) to get noise out, there’s a sync to bpm button top left, the rest is all about dragging sliders around and seeing what happens. (Well, that’s the way I do it. If I knew anything about music theory and/or acoustic science, I’m sure I could do something a lot more considered, But, ah... I don’t :) )

    No concessions have been made for IOS screen size so the rate sliders etc are small and fiddly, and you’ll have to full screen the AU to see all the controls. Try the presets - L & S, L for load, obvs, and you have to turn Trig on again after loading) with a huge reverb - I’m using Stratosphere Cloud Reverb and EOS (so far...) Wild!

    Think it’ll slot in nice next to Droneo, Mononoke, and iVCS3.

    Love Droneo by the way still my favorite droner on iOS. Wish the dev would make it landscape and update it.

  • @Gavinski said:
    Also - the dev just told me that the crash on that preset is intentional. It is indeed a kind of joke, hence the name of the preset @enkaytee

    Ooooo....kaaaaaaaay then.

  • Quirky sense of humour to say the least haha. I’m starting to grasp this thing a little, I think it is really cool actually. Very different. Definitely some effort needed to wrap my head around initially. The interface is good. Not intuitive but it makes sense when you read the manual. Deep tools deserve a good read of the manual for sure

  • This is in a similar sonic territory to some of the things Stria does, btw

  • After some hours of playing last night, reading the manual, was finally able to make something decent⚡️

  • @Gavinski said:
    Also - the dev just told me that the crash on that preset is intentional. It is indeed a kind of joke, hence the name of the preset @enkaytee

    🙄 JFC...

  • @Gavinski said:
    Also - the dev just told me that the crash on that preset is intentional. It is indeed a kind of joke, hence the name of the preset @enkaytee

    Ahh - ok, but the desktop version has exactly the same preset in the blush response bank and that works fine so that sounds a bit like an excuse...!

  • Haha, indeed. I won’t pretend I think it is even a remotely good idea. Well, email him!

  • I wonder if the fact that you can touch the interface on the iPad version actually makes it easier or more intuitive to use than the desktop (i tried the demo and was really frustrated quickly)...

    Also wondering if the processor warning is not to be ignored, my iPad Pro 2016 has the a9x which is just under the recommendation...

  • IT doesn’t crash it in AUM either so it is definitely not intentional, I guess there was some misunderstanding when I told him the -problem but I have now emailed a vid showing it

  • I’d pretty much always prefer touch screen, even though this is not an interface that is optimized for touch screen.

  • I’m with you there, and this one definitely looks very touchable :)

  • Misunderstanding is cleared up, dev acknowledges that that preset crash is a bug. Its really too funny though how it crashes on the prefix called 'break me' 😂😂😂

  • same here on ipad pro 11

  • This app sounds amazing, really beautiful stuff. BUT it needs an update to either resize the AU window or at the very least 2 finger scroll around the window because its too big for my iPad 9.7! Unusable unless I use the big iPad.

    Its all it needs though, considering I think this version is a gift from the desktop app world, thats the only big update it desperately needs, at least thats what I feel at this moment in time.

  • An interface that definitely needs an Apple Pencil...

  • Just getting into the manual. It reads slightly like a machine translation from German, but is fascinating on the development and theory behind the app, rooted in the rigorous original test equipment explorations of Stockhausen, Xenakis et al. A good read in itself. I definitely need to get a Morph... (or Velocity keyboard, anyway). It took me a couple of years to move beyond the presets of IVCS3 and I still don’t pretend to know what I am doing with it, but I’m getting that same flavour of a deep recreation of something complex from the dawn of electronic soundmaking, which demands a very different response to the instant gratification offered by just another analog synth app.

  • @Calverhall : I’m using it in AUM on my IPad Air 2018. I found you can resize the window to display the bit that disappears off the bottom on initial opening by tapping the top of the app window to max it out, then dragging the bottom down to reveal the missing bit.

  • @Svetlovska said:
    demands a very different response to the instant gratification offered by just another analog synth app.

    Exactly. For sure this is not going to be everyone's cup of tea. But it is interesting to get pushed out of our old ways of thinking about and making sounds/music, and I think this will do that for many of us.

  • @Svetlovska said:
    @Calverhall : I’m using it in AUM on my IPad Air 2018. I found you can resize the window to display the bit that disappears off the bottom on initial opening by tapping the top of the app window to max it out, then dragging the bottom down to reveal the missing bit.

    Ill try that when Im home this evening. I use 1st Gen iPad Pros, both sizes.

  • This is one of those apps I am going to pass.
    Just saying.
    Now, where’s the next thread?

  • Just had contact with the developer about the scaling of the app as standalone and in AUM, sending him some screenshots from my iPad Pro 12.9". He replied very fast :

    "Fundamental will not rescale its dimensions. This is not something we can change easily. as these codes are linked to the desktop versions as well."

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  • I don't mean that @Max23! I just mean the fact that that it doesn't play like a traditional synth with a keyboard, and the interesting modulation options. But yes, let's see....the limitations may get frustrating, time will tell. Like, I would use Mononoke more if it was just a regular synth lol 😂

    @Pierre118 yeah, pity about that, definitely, but at least Sinan is very responsive 👍

  • edited August 2020

    @Max23 : it’s obviously horses for courses, I don’t think if your goal is the ‘efficiency’ of arriving at a specific musical destination that Fundamental would be anyone’s Idea of a good place to start, but the way it is designed to self modulate and morph, outside of the constraints of MIDI note values and conventional keyboards makes it a meandering and surprising journey that I, as essentially a non musician and soundscaper, find very worth making. It is clear the dev has no interest in providing a conventional destination at all from this quote in the manual:

    “We have designed the Fundamental as a different instrument then the standard direct to midi key mapped instruments.

    First of all, to achieve the deep sonic offerings of the Fundamental and possessing the frequency resolution of it, performing the Fundamental with standard Midi scales is not enough. Otherwise it would easily become an organ like sounding instrument playing usual chord structures, which we don’t prefer to happen.”

    I can confirm it does not sound like an organ. At least not one from this planet. :)

  • @Pierre118 said:
    Just had contact with the developer about the scaling of the app as standalone and in AUM, sending him some screenshots from my iPad Pro 12.9". He replied very fast :

    "Fundamental will not rescale its dimensions. This is not something we can change easily. as these codes are linked to the desktop versions as well."

    I think plan B, as I said earlier would be to allow scrolling up and down and side to side in the window. Hopefully that isn’t as difficult to implement.

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