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Hainbach and SonicLAB's Fundamental for iOS out now

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  • CalverhallCalverhall
    edited August 2020

    @Calverhall said:

    @Svetlovska said:
    @Calverhall : I’m using it in AUM on my IPad Air 2018. I found you can resize the window to display the bit that disappears off the bottom on initial opening by tapping the top of the app window to max it out, then dragging the bottom down to reveal the missing bit.

    Ill try that when Im home this evening. I use 1st Gen iPad Pros, both sizes.

    Nope, this is not a solution at all I fear. Only just usable in portrait. If what was said above about being unable to resize is the case, then they need to at the very least introduce drag scrolling around an AU window. Otherwise Fundamental will be panned in the appstore reviews and everywhere else. Its a huge flaw in what is a very nice sounding app.

  • KrupaKrupa

    @Charlesalbert said:

    Totally random just to give you an idea.

    Looks like it’s not massively taxing your CPU there, sounds good too :)

  • CharlesalbertCharlesalbert

    @Krupa said:

    @Charlesalbert said:

    Totally random just to give you an idea.

    Looks like it’s not massively taxing your CPU there, sounds good too :)

    No it is not too intensive. A lot less then addstation 😂

  • KrupaKrupa

    Good to know, thanks, the warning on the app page was kinda putting me off, might well give it a crack :)

  • ALBALB

    @Max23 said:

    @Svetlovska said:

    @Philandering_Bastard said:
    The Manual reads like Stockhausen sounds 🤣

    Surely you can’t be Sirius?

    obviously this type of music is not after a melody you can whistle kind of stuff,
    but when you have to write big books with big words in it about your musical work to explain it to the people you simply failed.
    the music should speak for itself.
    if it would work then there is no need to write those books ;)

    Really? This app aside, I’ve gotten a lot out of art criticism/writing. Sure, lots of times it’s just babble, but it can be insightful enough for me to revisit something that I once derided. I don’t know that any art or music “works” without a period of inculcation.

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  • Philandering_BastardPhilandering_Bastard

    @Svetlovska said:

    @Philandering_Bastard said:
    The Manual reads like Stockhausen sounds 🤣

    Surely you can’t be Sirius?

    What you did. It was seen.

  • SvetlovskaSvetlovska
    edited August 2020

    :) Though if he did come from Sirius, that would explain a lot. Gotta love the string quartet in four helicopters. Rawk ‘n’ Roooool, ma dudes!

  • Philandering_BastardPhilandering_Bastard

    @Max23 said:

    @ALB said:

    @Max23 said:

    @Svetlovska said:

    @Philandering_Bastard said:
    The Manual reads like Stockhausen sounds 🤣

    Surely you can’t be Sirius?

    obviously this type of music is not after a melody you can whistle kind of stuff,
    but when you have to write big books with big words in it about your musical work to explain it to the people you simply failed.
    the music should speak for itself.
    if it would work then there is no need to write those books ;)

    Really? This app aside, I’ve gotten a lot out of art criticism/writing. Sure, lots of times it’s just babble, but it can be insightful enough for me to revisit something that I once derided. I don’t know that any art or music “works” without a period of inculcation.

    I meant the Stockhausen books on music
    I hate this side of academic music,
    big concepts, big blah blah, totally full of himself and nothing to show of that is really great.
    and he always hated on the BBC radiophonic workshop. :|
    I´ll pick Delia Derbyshire anyday over stockhausens junk, because its stuff I actually want to listen to again.

    Horses for courses I guess. The Southbank Centre put on a production of ‘Donnerstag’ from ‘Lucht’ which was absolutely amazing. The libretto was pretty cringy though, I’ll give you that.

  • ALBALB

    @Max23 said:

    @ALB said:

    @Max23 said:

    @Svetlovska said:

    @Philandering_Bastard said:
    The Manual reads like Stockhausen sounds 🤣

    Surely you can’t be Sirius?

    obviously this type of music is not after a melody you can whistle kind of stuff,
    but when you have to write big books with big words in it about your musical work to explain it to the people you simply failed.
    the music should speak for itself.
    if it would work then there is no need to write those books ;)

    Really? This app aside, I’ve gotten a lot out of art criticism/writing. Sure, lots of times it’s just babble, but it can be insightful enough for me to revisit something that I once derided. I don’t know that any art or music “works” without a period of inculcation.

    I meant the Stockhausen books on music
    I hate this side of academic music,
    big concepts, big blah blah, totally full of himself and nothing to show of that is really great.
    and he always hated on the BBC radiophonic workshop. :|
    I´ll pick Delia Derbyshire anyday over stockhausens junk, because its stuff I actually want to listen to again.

    Well, ok. I read your original comment as being more general than you intended. Thanks for clarifying.

  • GavinskiGavinski

    @david_2017 said:
    Can you use this app musically? As in I can create a F drone? Or Bb drone? That would be really nice to have ;)

    Definitely you can make drones in certain keys. This all about how you set the fundamental pitch and then how you set the ratio of in harmonic mode, or how you manually adjust the other oscillators if in user setup mode. You need to understand something about harmonics to know how the ratio slider works but nothing that a Wikipedia search can't provide.

    You can also create some kinds of arpeggiated melodies but there will be a degree of randomness to the timing.

  • GavinskiGavinski

    The need to understand ratio is why I said before it has some similarities with Stria, BTW

  • palmspalms

    @Max23 said:

    @Krupa said:
    I’m getting west side story vibes in here 😆

    nah,
    im just wondering why this gets so much attention for no reason
    looks like internet fame sells a lot >:)

    why are you giving it so much attention if you don't like it?

    it doesn't fit your specific aesthetic. I get it, you don't like early electronic stuff. Many, many people do. Your comments are tired. You sound like someone arguing that chocolate isn't good because you don't like it.

  • palmspalms

    can anyone point me to the manual? I'm sure I'm missing something obvious, but I can't find it anywhere on their website.

  • GavinskiGavinski

    I posted a link yesterday, scroll up

  • GavinskiGavinski
    edited August 2020

    There is in fact a link on the page for fundamental on their site but it is buried well down the page and very easy to miss. I told the dev it should really be more noticeable, as many ppl will miss it even after multiple scans of the page.

  • GavinskiGavinski
    edited August 2020

    What is the obvious thing you're missing btw？I might know having spent literally all day yesterday with this app @palms

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  • GavinskiGavinski

    https://www.sonic-lab.com/Fundamental/Fundamental_manual.pdf manual link

  • GavinskiGavinski

    Still very curious if anyone has tried this with any mpe controller apart from the morph, and if so, how they got on with it. If anyone has Velocity Keyboard, understands the mpe settings ins and outs, and wants to see if they can manage to play it with that, I'd appreciate the feedback, because I have failed so far. Velocity Keyboard is successfully sending messages to turn trig on/off and select presets, but I haven't managed to get it to even make sound, never mind apply pressure modulation or check this pitch bends are working.

  • palmspalms

    @Max23 good job on missing the point entirely. point is, once again you are arguing the value of something that is entirely subjective. Those sine waves sound incredibly good to my ear. Very well worth the 9.99 I paid for it. Easy to tune to any tuning with simple modulation. I absolutely love it. No amount of your whining that it doesn't meet your aesthetic interests will change my love for it. If anything it's just confusing why you care so much. If you aren't interested, move along. It's like walking in a comic book forum and telling people "Comic books are for nerds!". There's no way that you won't come off like the asshole.

    Why does it make you so upset when other people like something you don't? :)

  • palmspalms

    @Gavinski said:
    https://www.sonic-lab.com/Fundamental/Fundamental_manual.pdf manual link

    thanks! the obvious thing I was missing was referring to where the link was on their site. I pretty much figured it out, but would like to peruse the manual. Wondering if I can import scala files for tuning.

  • enkayteeenkaytee
    edited August 2020

    @palms said:

    @Gavinski said:
    https://www.sonic-lab.com/Fundamental/Fundamental_manual.pdf manual link

    thanks! the obvious thing I was missing was referring to where the link was on their site. I pretty much figured it out, but would like to peruse the manual. Wondering if I can import scala files for tuning.

    You can certainly import them in the desktop version but not sure on ios. Given that it can access the file system and has its own folder on the iPad I don't see why not.

  • enkayteeenkaytee

    @Gavinski said:
    Still very curious if anyone has tried this with any mpe controller apart from the morph, and if so, how they got on with it. If anyone has Velocity Keyboard, understands the mpe settings ins and outs, and wants to see if they can manage to play it with that, I'd appreciate the feedback, because I have failed so far. Velocity Keyboard is successfully sending messages to turn trig on/off and select presets, but I haven't managed to get it to even make sound, never mind apply pressure modulation or check this pitch bends are working.

    I've made something happen by using a custom drum pad in VK mapped to the 8 oscillators in Fundamental. So far I've got the following notes:

    A3 = osc 1
    B3 = osc 2
    C4 = osc 3
    D4 = osc 4
    E4 = osc 5
    F4 = osc 6
    G4 = osc 7
    A4 = osc 8

    A0 - C2 = presets

    Will let you down if I get any further!

  • Pierre118Pierre118

    @palms said:
    @Max23 good job on missing the point entirely. point is, once again you are arguing the value of something that is entirely subjective. Those sine waves sound incredibly good to my ear. Very well worth the 9.99 I paid for it. Easy to tune to any tuning with simple modulation. I absolutely love it. No amount of your whining that it doesn't meet your aesthetic interests will change my love for it. If anything it's just confusing why you care so much. If you aren't interested, move along. It's like walking in a comic book forum and telling people "Comic books are for nerds!". There's no way that you won't come off like the asshole.

    Why does it make you so upset when other people like something you don't? :)

    Well said @palms 👍

  • GavinskiGavinski

    @enkaytee thnx! I'd like to see what your settings panel looks like in VK from top to bottom

  • GavinskiGavinski

    @enkaytee said:

    @palms said:

    @Gavinski said:
    https://www.sonic-lab.com/Fundamental/Fundamental_manual.pdf manual link

    thanks! the obvious thing I was missing was referring to where the link was on their site. I pretty much figured it out, but would like to peruse the manual. Wondering if I can import scala files for tuning.

    You can certainly import them in the desktop version but not sure on ios. Given that it can access the file system and has its own folder on the iPad I don't see why not.

    I've never imported scala files but I saw that the desktop can do that, let us know if you are successful

  • mlaumlau

    @Max23 you are totally mistaken. this is not at all what you’re talking about... did you press the trig knob before selling sugar ?

    also, David Lynch straight story is a great movie ! you should watch it before trying to elaborate about his work ...

    and this goes for AnY kind of work ....

  • enkayteeenkaytee
    edited August 2020

    @Gavinski said:

    @enkaytee said:

    @palms said:

    @Gavinski said:
    https://www.sonic-lab.com/Fundamental/Fundamental_manual.pdf manual link

    thanks! the obvious thing I was missing was referring to where the link was on their site. I pretty much figured it out, but would like to peruse the manual. Wondering if I can import scala files for tuning.

    You can certainly import them in the desktop version but not sure on ios. Given that it can access the file system and has its own folder on the iPad I don't see why not.

    I've never imported scala files but I saw that the desktop can do that, let us know if you are successful

    The structure's been slightly changed in the most recent desktop release and now the scales are selected from a drop down list - it's the same in the iPad version. You can still (on the desktop anyway) add files to a specific folder and they'll be picked up in the drop down - not sure if this will work on the ipad, but will test...

  • enkayteeenkaytee

    @enkaytee said:

    @Gavinski said:

    @enkaytee said:

    @palms said:

    @Gavinski said:
    https://www.sonic-lab.com/Fundamental/Fundamental_manual.pdf manual link

    thanks! the obvious thing I was missing was referring to where the link was on their site. I pretty much figured it out, but would like to peruse the manual. Wondering if I can import scala files for tuning.

    You can certainly import them in the desktop version but not sure on ios. Given that it can access the file system and has its own folder on the iPad I don't see why not.

    I've never imported scala files but I saw that the desktop can do that, let us know if you are successful

    The structure's been slightly changed in the most recent desktop release and now the scales are selected from a drop down list - it's the same in the iPad version. You can still (on the desktop anyway) add files to a specific folder and they'll be picked up in the drop down - not sure if this will work on the ipad, but will test...

    Nope - no go I'm afraid - the scales on the iPad version seem to be built in so no way to import scl files at the moment...

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