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LK - for Ableton Live & Midi by Imaginando - AUv3 Clip Launcher Finally Available in AUM!!

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  • Also, it would be nice if the notes color would follow the clip color.

  • @sinosoidal said:

    @echoopera said:

    This sounds like a wild free mode. Without even triggering the desired slot?

    @echoopera as always thanks for your incredible feedback.

    Hrmmm good point. There should definitely be a Clip present to record to. Would a Create Clip button in the Chorder/Midi Pads toolbar be odd? I guess I’m just looking for a faster way to record a Clip without having to go to Clip view then go to Chorder view and start playing.

  • @echoopera said:
    Hrmmm good point. There should definitely be a Clip present to record to. Would a Create Clip button in the Chorder/Midi Pads toolbar be odd? I guess I’m just looking for a faster way to record a Clip without having to go to Clip view then go to Chorder view and start playing.

    I got the point. Let's see what we can do.

  • @branis said:
    Also, it would be nice if the notes color would follow the clip color.

    This is a simple and good idea. What do others think?

  • @sinosoidal said:

    @branis said:
    Also, it would be nice if the notes color would follow the clip color.

    This is a simple and good idea. What do others think?

    This would be really useful if you were also thinking of adding ghost notes / clip overlays

  • edited November 2020

    @GrimLucky said:

    @sinosoidal said:

    @branis said:
    Also, it would be nice if the notes color would follow the clip color.

    This is a simple and good idea. What do others think?

    This would be really useful if you were also thinking of adding ghost notes / clip overlays

    I second that. It's something I didn't expect to find useful, but it definitely makes pattern editing faster (I always use it Atom)

  • I do like LK in 'AUv3 Fullscreen Mode'.

    Unfortunately AudioBus has no way to easily select which midi channel each AUv3 instance listens to and It's all channels by default?! (Ie. it's impossible to use om instance of LK to control multiple AUv3's in Audiobus without using multiple instances of LK).

    @Michael Is this something that is 'by design' or something that will be added later?
    (Ie. a simple midi-channel selector/filter per AUv3 instance would be enough).

    Cheers!

  • @sinosoidal said:

    @branis said:
    Also, it would be nice if the notes color would follow the clip color.

    This is a simple and good idea. What do others think?

    That's a very good idea 😊👍

  • edited November 2020

    @sinosoidal said:

    @bleep said:
    Some CC feature requests:

    • Now you can tap a linear segment and drag it up/down. Would be really nice if you also could drag left/right to change the curvature between the two points, from logarithmic to linear to exponential in varying degrees (default as linear, maybe a long tap to open a reset menu).

    This is a good suggestion.

    We will take note of this suggestions and see what we can do in the future.

    Cool. I think what you need is just a small modification to the normal linear slope calculation. See the answer here, where the linear slope is adjusted by raising values to the n'th power.
    https://math.stackexchange.com/questions/107245/continuum-between-linear-and-logarithmic

    In that answer it is said to use 0 < n < 1, but for your right-hand side with exponential curves, you need to let the n value become larger than 1. Swipe left: decrease n down towards 0 (but not quite 0). Swipe right: increase n toward some suitable upper value for a sharp exponential curve.

  • Also, +1 for using clip color as note color, and maybe one day optionally display reference notes ("ghosts") from other clips.

  • @bleep said:

    @sinosoidal said:

    @bleep said:
    Some CC feature requests:

    • Now you can tap a linear segment and drag it up/down. Would be really nice if you also could drag left/right to change the curvature between the two points, from logarithmic to linear to exponential in varying degrees (default as linear, maybe a long tap to open a reset menu).

    This is a good suggestion.

    We will take note of this suggestions and see what we can do in the future.

    Cool. I think what you need is just a small modification to the normal linear slope calculation. See the answer here, where the linear slope is adjusted by raising values to the n'th power.
    https://math.stackexchange.com/questions/107245/continuum-between-linear-and-logarithmic

    In that answer it is said to use 0 < n < 1, but for your right-hand side with exponential curves, you need to let the n value become larger than 1. Swipe left: decrease n down towards 0 (but not quite 0). Swipe right: increase n toward some suitable upper value for a sharp exponential curve.

    It is not that simple. For a line we dont need to keep the intermediate values, they are calculated in song time. Doing those kinds of transforms, need additional complexity to how values are kept. It is not a simple improvement.

  • @sinosoidal said:

    @MichaelRocketship said:
    @sinosoidal Any plans for more clip follow actions? i.e ‘first’?

    Of course! Maybe we could discuss what other follow actions would be great to have, here with the other uses.

    @White said:

    @sinosoidal said:

    @branis said:
    Also, it would be nice if the notes color would follow the clip color.

    This is a simple and good idea. What do others think?

    That's a very good idea 😊👍

    That‘s a brilliant idea!

  • @sinosoidal said:

    @gregsmith said:
    Are the iaps on sale?

    Only MATRIX module! Should end soonl.

    Not on sale anymore?

  • edited November 2020

    Just to ask this again, is there no way to set a default clip length? It’s very tedious to have to create a blank 1 bar clip and change its properties every time I want a longer length.

    EDIT: I'm thinking about this in the context of a jamming and improvisation workflow.

  • it try to to trig scenes with a cc but didn't find how to do this?
    is it possible ?

  • @Jeezs said:
    it try to to trig scenes with a cc but didn't find how to do this?
    is it possible ?

    No. (Not yet at least, fingers crossed it will be added)

  • edited November 2020

    @Samu said:
    I do like LK in 'AUv3 Fullscreen Mode'.

    Unfortunately AudioBus has no way to easily select which midi channel each AUv3 instance listens to and It's all channels by default?! (Ie. it's impossible to use om instance of LK to control multiple AUv3's in Audiobus without using multiple instances of LK).

    @Michael Is this something that is 'by design' or something that will be added later?
    (Ie. a simple midi-channel selector/filter per AUv3 instance would be enough).

    Cheers!

    From what I remember, this was part of the v3 design (to simplify/reduce same back and forth virtual ports). I would assume that bigger rewrite would be needed to address this.

    Edit: the only workaround is to use ch.filter/remap

  • @Michael_R_Grant said:
    Just to ask this again, is there no way to set a default clip length? It’s very tedious to have to create a blank 1 bar clip and change its properties every time I want a longer length.

    +1

  • edited November 2020

    @Lil_Stu07 said:

    @Michael_R_Grant said:
    Just to ask this again, is there no way to set a default clip length? It’s very tedious to have to create a blank 1 bar clip and change its properties every time I want a longer length.

    +1

    +1
    and also clip should be (record ready) when empty

  • Just having a look at this. Looks decent but it's it possible to quantise note ends in the matrix module? Doesn't look like it is to be but wanted to check with those who've been using it for longer

  • @charalew said:
    Just having a look at this. Looks decent but it's it possible to quantise note ends in the matrix module? Doesn't look like it is to be but wanted to check with those who've been using it for longer

    When recording? No. But if you use the note tools/select all, then drag to lengthen or shorten the notes, they will snap to the quantize setting.

  • @wim said:

    @charalew said:
    Just having a look at this. Looks decent but it's it possible to quantise note ends in the matrix module? Doesn't look like it is to be but wanted to check with those who've been using it for longer

    When recording? No. But if you use the note tools/select all, then drag to lengthen or shorten the notes, they will snap to the quantize setting.

    Very good point. Should have thought of that. Maybe that will work in Zenbeats too!

  • @charalew said:

    @wim said:

    @charalew said:
    Just having a look at this. Looks decent but it's it possible to quantise note ends in the matrix module? Doesn't look like it is to be but wanted to check with those who've been using it for longer

    When recording? No. But if you use the note tools/select all, then drag to lengthen or shorten the notes, they will snap to the quantize setting.

    Very good point. Should have thought of that. Maybe that will work in Zenbeats too!

    Just checked - it doesn't work in Zenbeats

  • Is it possible to set time signature other than 4/4?

  • edited November 2020

    @sinosoidal yesterday I was trying to test out AKAI APC40 wether it would work with the latest version by a chance, when APC mini support was added. First thing is, that it crashed when I selected APC40 as MIDI input, the second is, that I didn’t know, how to set it up, but it wasnt reacting to input from APC40. Does it check for specific controller? Would it make sense to allow for other controllers, at least from the same controller family (APC). Or did I just miss the way how to set it up?

  • @skrat said:
    @sinosoidal yesterday I was trying to test out AKAI APC40 wether it would work with the latest version by a chance, when APC mini support was added. First thing is, that it crashed when I selected APC40 as MIDI input, the second is, that I didn’t know, how to set it up, but it wasnt reacting to input from APC40. Does it check for specific controller? Would it make sense to allow for other controllers, at least from the same controller family (APC). Or did I just miss the way how to set it up?

    Our way of handling controller support right now is 100% plug & play. No need to route the controller midi input into LK.

    Every controller is different, even the ones that are very similar. We have only played with 4 so far and all of them are different. Don't expect APC 40 to work.

    Regarding the cerash, well, ideally we would need to have an APC 40 to check that out. It will take some time as we have already invest in a couple of controllers lately.

    Thanks for your valuable feedback!

  • @Jeezs said:
    Is it possible to set time signature other than 4/4?

    Not yet. Sorry! :blush:

  • edited November 2020

    @sinosoidal said:

    @Jeezs said:
    Is it possible to set time signature other than 4/4?

    Not yet. Sorry! :blush:

    Ok. I’ll work on another song so, and finished this one later.
    Thanks for the answer.

  • First and foremost kudos to the devs at Imaginando, the steady flow of updates is constantly improving LK in a very interesting way and it’s working really well, very stable.

    1 tip and 2 questions:

    Tip:
    If clicking a clip doesn’t launch it or double clicking an empty slot doesn’t create a clip, make sure you check the settings. There’s a “Gate mode launch support” setting there that, if enabled, won’t let you click to play clip or double click to create. I actually have no idea what it does, can’t see anything in the documentation. Mine was enabled, I don’t know if I enabled it at some or it’s default... anyway, just deselect it for “normal” operation.

    Question 1:
    Is there a way to build a “fixed” song structure?. Like play scene 1 three times, then scene 2 four times, etc... I’d like to set up the scene changes in advance and just concentrate on noodling around with filters, effects and so on while the song develops underneath. If this is not possible at the moment, a second best option would be to trigger scenes via midi (external midi controller) which is possible for clips but I don’t see it’s possible for scenes.

    Question 2:
    What are other LK users using to launch audio clips?. I can’t find a good auv3 to launch clips (like a whole verse vocal, then chorus...). I had to resort to using a Sampler (Drambo) but it’s cumbersome and not ideal.

    Cheers!.

  • edited November 2020

    @sinosoidal said:

    @skrat said:
    @sinosoidal yesterday I was trying to test out AKAI APC40 wether it would work with the latest version by a chance, when APC mini support was added. First thing is, that it crashed when I selected APC40 as MIDI input, the second is, that I didn’t know, how to set it up, but it wasnt reacting to input from APC40. Does it check for specific controller? Would it make sense to allow for other controllers, at least from the same controller family (APC). Or did I just miss the way how to set it up?

    Our way of handling controller support right now is 100% plug & play. No need to route the controller midi input into LK.

    Every controller is different, even the ones that are very similar. We have only played with 4 so far and all of them are different. Don't expect APC 40 to work.

    Regarding the cerash, well, ideally we would need to have an APC 40 to check that out. It will take some time as we have already invest in a couple of controllers lately.

    Thanks for your valuable feedback!

    Thanks for quick response! Just my 5 cents: It's fine to try out multiple controllers and find out the similarities and differences to have an idea how they work, but don't try to manually add support to all of them. There is endless amount of hardware, some is legacy, some new is appearing every day... Rather allow users to create controller configurations and easily share it via file, e.g. using patchstorage.com. There does not have to be some GUI, even if it would be some JSON file or any other simple format, that's good enough. People already owning the hardware will do the job for you. That's the experience I have from any desktop music app or even iOS (mostly DJing) apps. Those that does not allow sharing of configs are having hard times always updating with some new or updated version of the mapping and people are always unhappy, ask for adjustments etc... So the time invested into trying to support e.g. 10 controllers would be better used to create an universal way, then on your side just support some few most popular, but people will create mappings for dozens others and will have the freedom to adjust it to their taste. And you won't have to care about new controllers or old popular ones etc...

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