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LK - for Ableton Live & Midi by Imaginando - AUv3 Clip Launcher Finally Available in AUM!!

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  • We have just uploaded build 159 of LK 1.8.4 for TestFlight. Changelog:

    Beta 4:

    • Added the ability to switch off controller via Menu->Midi menu item
    • Added grid to automations editor with snap support
    • Fixed bug that would might cause LK to crash when disconnecting midi devices
    • General bug fixes and improvements

    Beta 3:

    • Add Launchpad X support
    • General bug fixes and improvements

    Beta 2:

    • APC Key 25 support
    • Launchpad Mini MK2 support
    • Properties context menu for track and scene
    • Midi trigger for scene launch and track stop
    • Midi trigger can now be a note
    • General bug fixes and improvements

    Beta 1:

    • Recording of clips without pre defined length
    • Allow undo/redo recorded notes
    • Clip notes now have clip color
    • Shift+tap to select/deselect notes
    • General bug fixes and improvements
  • @sinosoidal said:
    We have just uploaded build 159 of LK 1.8.4 for TestFlight. Changelog:

    Beta 4:

    • Added the ability to switch off controller via Menu->Midi menu item
    • Added grid to automations editor with snap support
    • Fixed bug that would might cause LK to crash when disconnecting midi devices
    • General bug fixes and improvements

    Beta 3:

    • Add Launchpad X support
    • General bug fixes and improvements

    Beta 2:

    • APC Key 25 support
    • Launchpad Mini MK2 support
    • Properties context menu for track and scene
    • Midi trigger for scene launch and track stop
    • Midi trigger can now be a note
    • General bug fixes and improvements

    Beta 1:

    • Recording of clips without pre defined length
    • Allow undo/redo recorded notes
    • Clip notes now have clip color
    • Shift+tap to select/deselect notes
    • General bug fixes and improvements

    this still does not work..... and I am wondering if this is actually beta build 4? I did the update and I swear i just saw beta build 3. When I go into AUM there is no way that I can prevent LK from picking up the LPX and auto adding it. I have disabled everything. Is there a file I can see to tell me exactly what version I am on?

    Thanks

  • @onerez said:
    this still does not work..... and I am wondering if this is actually beta build 4? I did the update and I swear i just saw beta build 3. When I go into AUM there is no way that I can prevent LK from picking up the LPX and auto adding it. I have disabled everything.

    Open LK, click on the burguer menu, choose midi, disable Launchpad LPX DAW in and out items. It should make the controller go into default mode.

  • edited November 2020

    @sinosoidal said:

    @onerez said:
    this still does not work..... and I am wondering if this is actually beta build 4? I did the update and I swear i just saw beta build 3. When I go into AUM there is no way that I can prevent LK from picking up the LPX and auto adding it. I have disabled everything.

    Open LK, click on the burguer menu, choose midi, disable Launchpad LPX DAW in and out items. It should make the controller go into default mode.

    I had the same experience as @onerez late last night in a brief test. I disabled the controller DAW in and out in LK’s midi settings, but was still able to trigger and stop clips. I was wondering too if I was still in the old version? I opened up from standalone before restarting AUM with the AUv3.

    I also had some disconnections after updating to the new beta (though I was using a new battery/hub setup, so it could have been that). This seemed to happen going from ‘session’ to ‘note’. When the Launchpad reconnected (without me doing anything), the midi in and out had re-enabled themselves.

    This was after several well spent hours on the previous beta, so I was not at my troubleshooting sharpest, will go again tonight.

    Still really loving this. I am a total isomorphic convert after a few days of LK and Launchpad X. Linnstrument now on my hopelessly over optimistic Christmas list.

  • On the Launchpad X I have asked @sinosoidal if the ‘capture midi’ button can be used to trigger LK’s ‘global recording’. This would mimic ‘toggle session record’ in Ableton.

    Would any other Launchpad X users (or potential users) like to see this function? Record enable for each track is already there, along with solos, mutes, stops, volume, pan and 2x sends.

    The existing modes are session/session mix and note mode just as in Ableton. The custom button still accesses user templates (I think, I haven’t made any myself yet).

    ‘Capture Midi’ is redundant in LK at the moment. If not to toggle ‘global record’, is there another function that would be more useful?

  • @sinosoidal said:

    @onerez said:
    this still does not work..... and I am wondering if this is actually beta build 4? I did the update and I swear i just saw beta build 3. When I go into AUM there is no way that I can prevent LK from picking up the LPX and auto adding it. I have disabled everything.

    Open LK, click on the burguer menu, choose midi, disable Launchpad LPX DAW in and out items. It should make the controller go into default mode.

    That is what I am telling you I have done....... and it still auto connects. ☹️

  • @onerez said:
    That is what I am telling you I have done....... and it still auto connects. ☹️

    There is indeed an issue with the state clean. However, if you disable both Launchpad LPX DAW in and out, you are not able to interact with controller with LK. We have just tested it. We have just fixed state clean. New beta coming out soon.

  • @sinosoidal said:

    @onerez said:
    That is what I am telling you I have done....... and it still auto connects. ☹️

    There is indeed an issue with the state clean. However, if you disable both Launchpad LPX DAW in and out, you are not able to interact with controller with LK. We have just tested it. We have just fixed state clean. New beta coming out soon.

    @sinosoidal I appreciate the efforts. I want to make sure I clearly understand. Are you saying that you believe that if you disable LPX DAW in and out that it should not interact? because i have done that and it still does. Or are you saying that you found something else and you are going to build that into next beta that will fix this?

    Thanks

  • @onerez said:

    I want to make sure I clearly understand. Are you saying that you believe that if you disable LPX DAW in and out that it should not interact? because i have done that and it still does. Or are you saying that you found something else and you are going to build that into next beta that will fix this?

    I'm saying that we have just tested it and as it is in the beta, disabling both DAW pair, should not allow Launchpad to perform actions on LK anymore. If you are experiencing, maybe there is something else. Please wait for the next beta.

  • @onerez said:

    because i have done that and it still does

    Just to be sure. Where are you disabling LPX DAW in and out? Inside LK or on AUM?

  • @sinosoidal sent you PM with video.

  • edited November 2020

    @sinosoidal said:

    @Emanresu said:
    issues drawing automation 1/32. if start empty and draw full lenght it is obvious

    Can you please make us a video demonstrating the problem? Thanks! :blush:

    https://drive.google.com/file/d/1DiLdIjmdE_iCiFWO-7t1RO8x3ltjFh3m/view?usp=drivesdk

    Examples for 1/16 and 1/32

  • @Emanresu said:

    @sinosoidal said:

    @Emanresu said:
    issues drawing automation 1/32. if start empty and draw full lenght it is obvious

    Can you please make us a video demonstrating the problem? Thanks! :blush:

    https://drive.google.com/file/d/1DiLdIjmdE_iCiFWO-7t1RO8x3ltjFh3m/view?usp=drivesdk

    Examples for 1/16 and 1/32

    Thank you! This will be fixed. Thanks for reporting.

  • LK 1.8.4 is out now:

    • Fixed bug that would might cause LK to crash when disconnecting midi devices
    • Added Launchpad X support
    • Added APC Key 25 support
    • Added Launchpad Mini MK2 support
    • Added the ability to switch off controller via Menu->Midi menu item
    • Added grid to automations editor with snap support
    • Properties context menu for track and scene
    • Midi trigger for scene launch and track stop
    • Midi trigger can now be a note
    • Recording of clips without pre defined length
    • Allow undo/redo recorded notes
    • Clip notes now have clip color
    • Shift+tap to select/deselect notes
    • General bug fixes and improvements
  • @sinosoidal said:
    LK 1.8.4 is out now:

    • Fixed bug that would might cause LK to crash when disconnecting midi devices
    • Added Launchpad X support
    • Added APC Key 25 support
    • Added Launchpad Mini MK2 support
    • Added the ability to switch off controller via Menu->Midi menu item
    • Added grid to automations editor with snap support
    • Properties context menu for track and scene
    • Midi trigger for scene launch and track stop
    • Midi trigger can now be a note
    • Recording of clips without pre defined length
    • Allow undo/redo recorded notes
    • Clip notes now have clip color
    • Shift+tap to select/deselect notes
    • General bug fixes and improvements

    Very happy to see how Lk is evolving, also considering the growing public of aficionados.

  • . > @sinosoidal said:

    LK 1.8.4 is out now:

    • Fixed bug that would might cause LK to crash when disconnecting midi devices
    • Added Launchpad X support
    • Added APC Key 25 support
    • Added Launchpad Mini MK2 support
    • Added the ability to switch off controller via Menu->Midi menu item
    • Added grid to automations editor with snap support
    • Properties context menu for track and scene
    • Midi trigger for scene launch and track stop
    • Midi trigger can now be a note
    • Recording of clips without pre defined length
    • Allow undo/redo recorded notes
    • Clip notes now have clip color
    • Shift+tap to select/deselect notes
    • General bug fixes and improvements

    Brilliant, had a quick play with my APC Key 25, works great.
    Thanks for all the nice updates - we’ll end up with Ableton on iOS at this rate. 😁

  • I am really happy with LK so far and really like it. However there is two things that I still could not wrap my head around:

    • Is there a way to record incoming MIDI without limit? Atm I crank up the clips length to some hundreds of bars, but it would be really nice to have an „infinite“ option for recording MIDI in Matrix mode
    • I really like the generative Melody and Chord creation tools, but is there a way to tune the generated MIDI notes apart from setting the lowest and highest notes? Somehow it only generates a mix between 8th and 16th notes pattern, but it would be awesome to set the resolution of the generated notes to e.g. a (random) mix of 32th, 16th and8th notes
  • @vrtx_void said:
    I am really happy with LK so far and really like it. However there is two things that I still could not wrap my head around:

    • Is there a way to record incoming MIDI without limit? Atm I crank up the clips length to some hundreds of bars, but it would be really nice to have an „infinite“ option for recording MIDI in Matrix mode

    Looks like this is mentioned in last comments :) Recording without predefined length is part of the very recent update.

  • edited November 2020

    @skrat said:

    @vrtx_void said:
    I am really happy with LK so far and really like it. However there is two things that I still could not wrap my head around:

    • Is there a way to record incoming MIDI without limit? Atm I crank up the clips length to some hundreds of bars, but it would be really nice to have an „infinite“ option for recording MIDI in Matrix mode

    Looks like this is mentioned in last comments :) Recording without predefined length is part of the very recent update.

    Wow, that‘s perfect :smile:

    However there is also something that I realized: Whenever I stop the playhead in AUM or go through some bars of generated MIDi it holds the last played MIDI note forever...is there a way to avoid that?

  • @vrtx_void said:
    However there is also something that I realized: Whenever I stop the playhead in AUM or go through some bars of generated MIDi it holds the last played MIDI note forever...is there a way to avoid that?

    That's probably a bug. If you know how to reproduce it sistematically, please record a video and share with us so we can fix it ASAP. Thanks! :blush:

  • @skrat said:

    @vrtx_void said:
    I am really happy with LK so far and really like it. However there is two things that I still could not wrap my head around:

    • Is there a way to record incoming MIDI without limit? Atm I crank up the clips length to some hundreds of bars, but it would be really nice to have an „infinite“ option for recording MIDI in Matrix mode

    Looks like this is mentioned in last comments :) Recording without predefined length is part of the very recent update.

    How do we turn on the option to record without a pre-determined length? I am not seeing how to do that in the new update.

  • wimwim
    edited November 2020

    @espiegel123 said:

    @skrat said:

    @vrtx_void said:
    I am really happy with LK so far and really like it. However there is two things that I still could not wrap my head around:

    • Is there a way to record incoming MIDI without limit? Atm I crank up the clips length to some hundreds of bars, but it would be really nice to have an „infinite“ option for recording MIDI in Matrix mode

    Looks like this is mentioned in last comments :) Recording without predefined length is part of the very recent update.

    How do we turn on the option to record without a pre-determined length? I am not seeing how to do that in the new update.

    I'm not sure the best way to do it, but one that works is to first turn off overdub, then add a clip. The clip shows with a red record dot on it. It will then record until you tap the clip again.

    Oddly, though, I can record from the AUM keyboard, but not from Rozeta XOX, even though I'm certain the routing is correct.

    [edit: 1) I'm not sure it's necessary to turn off overdub. just tapping to create an empty clip works? 2) see below for why XOX wasn't working]

  • wimwim
    edited November 2020

    Humm ... it seems that the highest midi channel that LK now accepting in AUM is channel 8. Bug? Has it always been this way?

    Steps to reproduce:

    • Set up a track with LK input, ALL channels (the default)
    • Route LK out to a plugin with all channels enabled.
    • Route the AUM keyboard to LK, arm the LK track, and verify that the plugin is heard.
    • Change the AUM keyboard up through channel 1 to 8, plugin is heard, change to 9 or above and plugin is no longer heard. notes will not be recorded either.
    • Try the same with a plugin such as Rozeta XOX, changing the output channel from 1 through 16. Same behavior.

    @sinosoidal

  • @wim said:

    @espiegel123 said:

    @skrat said:

    @vrtx_void said:
    I am really happy with LK so far and really like it. However there is two things that I still could not wrap my head around:

    • Is there a way to record incoming MIDI without limit? Atm I crank up the clips length to some hundreds of bars, but it would be really nice to have an „infinite“ option for recording MIDI in Matrix mode

    Looks like this is mentioned in last comments :) Recording without predefined length is part of the very recent update.

    How do we turn on the option to record without a pre-determined length? I am not seeing how to do that in the new update.

    I'm not sure the best way to do it, but one that works is to first turn off overdub, then add a clip. The clip shows with a red record dot on it. It will then record until you tap the clip again.

    Oddly, though, I can record from the AUM keyboard, but not from Rozeta XOX, even though I'm certain the routing is correct.

    [edit: 1) I'm not sure it's necessary to turn off overdub. just tapping to create an empty clip works? 2) see below for why XOX wasn't working]

    Thx Wim.

    So, it looks like you need to delete the default clip and create a new one by recording. Is there a way I’ve overlooked to set LK up so that your default clip is set to not have a predetermined length?

  • @espiegel123 said:

    @wim said:

    @espiegel123 said:

    @skrat said:

    @vrtx_void said:
    I am really happy with LK so far and really like it. However there is two things that I still could not wrap my head around:

    • Is there a way to record incoming MIDI without limit? Atm I crank up the clips length to some hundreds of bars, but it would be really nice to have an „infinite“ option for recording MIDI in Matrix mode

    Looks like this is mentioned in last comments :) Recording without predefined length is part of the very recent update.

    How do we turn on the option to record without a pre-determined length? I am not seeing how to do that in the new update.

    I'm not sure the best way to do it, but one that works is to first turn off overdub, then add a clip. The clip shows with a red record dot on it. It will then record until you tap the clip again.

    Oddly, though, I can record from the AUM keyboard, but not from Rozeta XOX, even though I'm certain the routing is correct.

    [edit: 1) I'm not sure it's necessary to turn off overdub. just tapping to create an empty clip works? 2) see below for why XOX wasn't working]

    Thx Wim.

    So, it looks like you need to delete the default clip and create a new one by recording. Is there a way I’ve overlooked to set LK up so that your default clip is set to not have a predetermined length?

    I think we better wait to hear from @sinosoidal. I don't think I quite get the process at this point.

  • Hi @sinosoidal - I have a couple crash logs to send you. What's the best way to do that? I can't get the PM to let me add any files other than pics.

  • @wim said:
    Hi @sinosoidal - I have a couple crash logs to send you. What's the best way to do that? I can't get the PM to let me add any files other than pics.

    The best way to submit crash reports is to have app analytics to be shared with the developers under privacy setting. They get automatically uploaded by the system and we do get them under the development tools.

    Are those crash reproducible sistematically? If so, you can also make us a video. Thanks! :blush:

  • @wim said:
    Humm ... it seems that the highest midi channel that LK now accepting in AUM is channel 8. Bug? Has it always been this way?

    Steps to reproduce:

    • Set up a track with LK input, ALL channels (the default)
    • Route LK out to a plugin with all channels enabled.
    • Route the AUM keyboard to LK, arm the LK track, and verify that the plugin is heard.
    • Change the AUM keyboard up through channel 1 to 8, plugin is heard, change to 9 or above and plugin is no longer heard. notes will not be recorded either.
    • Try the same with a plugin such as Rozeta XOX, changing the output channel from 1 through 16. Same behavior.

    @sinosoidal

    Sounds like a bug to me! We need to investigate.

  • @wim said:

    So, it looks like you need to delete the default clip and create a new one by recording. Is there a way I’ve overlooked to set LK up so that your default clip is set to not have a predetermined length?

    I think we better wait to hear from @sinosoidal. I don't think I quite get the process at this point.

    Maybe it makes sense not to have a default clip now.

  • @sinosoidal said:

    @wim said:

    So, it looks like you need to delete the default clip and create a new one by recording. Is there a way I’ve overlooked to set LK up so that your default clip is set to not have a predetermined length?

    I think we better wait to hear from @sinosoidal. I don't think I quite get the process at this point.

    Maybe it makes sense not to have a default clip now.

    +1

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