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  • mojozartmojozart
    edited November 2020

    @wim said:

    @mojozart said:

    @wim said:
    @mojozart
    That is strange. I see them and I'm on 1.0.1. Are you sure that you have apps running in the background? If you have AUM running, you should see it. If not, then you will not see it. (see my screenshots from an earlier post)

    What version iOS? I'm on 13.7. Maybe it's iOS 14 related.

    I'm running iPadOS 14.2. MIDI DESTINATIONS appears (to me) in Egoist and Thesys.

    Sorry, I don't understand. We're talking about midi destinations for other apps showing in DC. They will only show if the apps are running.

    Drum Computer showing up in other apps as a midi destination is a different thing. That means that those apps can send to DC through its virtual midi port. This is for destinations that DC can send to, not the other way around.

    Sorry if I'm misunderstanding you. This is getting confusing.

    I hope Sugar Bytes can understand my report!

    What I'm referring to is the DESTINATIONS section, like the one below from Thesys.

    As @Vibes71 screenshot shows, this section is missing from (our) DrumComputer.

  • Lil_Stu07Lil_Stu07

    @Lil_Stu07 said:

    @robosardine said:
    What’s the situation for those of you with the newer iPads? Drum Computer runs on an Air2 and you can have a few others on the go - but not to many.

    What is the DSP showing?
    Can you run Drum Computer alongside say Gadget and Groovebox all with effects in their channels and maybe even more? Or is that too much?
    Can you give some idea?
    Thanks

    https://www.dropbox.com/s/7ddxkuubd6cb6n1/Video Nov 07, 7 11 03 PM.mp4?dl=0

    iPad Air 3 256gb IPadOS 13.7

    Newer ipads can handle this no problem. I honestly don't see where you would need more than 2 instances, since that gives you 16 tracks. But wanted to show how many it could run without crashing alongside gadget and Module.

  • wimwim
    edited November 2020

    @mojozart said:
    As @Vibes71 screenshot shows, this is missing from DrumComputer.

    But ... if you don't mind can you please give me a yes or no answer to this question: Do you have AUM running in the background when you see no destinations?

    Can you first start AUM, then start DC, then go to the settings in DC and tell me if you see AUM or not?

    Sorry if it seems like I'm being pushy. I don't mean to. I'm only trying to get to the bottom of why I see these destinations and you do not.

  • reasOnereasOne

    @Lil_Stu07 said:

    @Lil_Stu07 said:

    @robosardine said:
    What’s the situation for those of you with the newer iPads? Drum Computer runs on an Air2 and you can have a few others on the go - but not to many.

    What is the DSP showing?
    Can you run Drum Computer alongside say Gadget and Groovebox all with effects in their channels and maybe even more? Or is that too much?
    Can you give some idea?
    Thanks

    https://www.dropbox.com/s/7ddxkuubd6cb6n1/Video Nov 07, 7 11 03 PM.mp4?dl=0

    iPad Air 3 256gb IPadOS 13.7

    Newer ipads can handle this no problem. I honestly don't see where you would need more than 2 instances, since that gives you 16 tracks. But wanted to show how many it could run without crashing alongside gadget and Module.

    dang that ran smooth 🤣

    the issue i come across is when i open an instance of dc to edit it while a host and other apps are running, mega crackles. i’ve only really tested in ns2 with two factorys and tal u and one dc tho, aum is lighter

  • Lil_Stu07Lil_Stu07

    @reasOne said:

    @Lil_Stu07 said:

    @Lil_Stu07 said:

    @robosardine said:
    What’s the situation for those of you with the newer iPads? Drum Computer runs on an Air2 and you can have a few others on the go - but not to many.

    What is the DSP showing?
    Can you run Drum Computer alongside say Gadget and Groovebox all with effects in their channels and maybe even more? Or is that too much?
    Can you give some idea?
    Thanks

    https://www.dropbox.com/s/7ddxkuubd6cb6n1/Video Nov 07, 7 11 03 PM.mp4?dl=0

    iPad Air 3 256gb IPadOS 13.7

    Newer ipads can handle this no problem. I honestly don't see where you would need more than 2 instances, since that gives you 16 tracks. But wanted to show how many it could run without crashing alongside gadget and Module.

    dang that ran smooth 🤣

    the issue i come across is when i open an instance of dc to edit it while a host and other apps are running, mega crackles. i’ve only really tested in ns2 with two factorys and tal u and one dc tho, aum is lighter

    I'll try that setup, give me a sec.

  • ShabuduaShabudua

    I notice the CLAP sound randomizer profile doesn’t generate anything I would ever identify as a hand clap. Usually it sound like a cymbal or metallic percussion. Is it working as intended?

  • mojozartmojozart

    @wim said:

    @mojozart said:
    As @Vibes71 screenshot shows, this is missing from DrumComputer.

    But ... if you don't mind can you please give me a yes or no answer to this question: Do you have AUM running in the background when you see no destinations?

    Can you first start AUM, then start DC, then go to the settings in DC and tell me if you see AUM or not?

    Sorry if it seems like I'm being pushy. I don't mean to. I'm only trying to get to the bottom of why I see these destinations and you do not.

    Network Session should appear regardless, but the entire DESTINATIONS section is missing from (our) DrumComputer.

    Below is Thesys with a Network Session and an AUM Egoist. But still, no DESTINATIONS in DrumComputer.

  • CarnbotCarnbot

    @wim said:

    @mojozart said:
    As @Vibes71 screenshot shows, this is missing from DrumComputer.

    But ... if you don't mind can you please give me a yes or no answer to this question: Do you have AUM running in the background when you see no destinations?

    Can you first start AUM, then start DC, then go to the settings in DC and tell me if you see AUM or not?

    Sorry if it seems like I'm being pushy. I don't mean to. I'm only trying to get to the bottom of why I see these destinations and you do not.

    Right I think this is a 14.2 issue, on my Air 2 (ios 14.2) it's missing too, but on 13.7 it's there.
    AUv3 should still be fine though.

    Btw you can still use it because from some apps the port is still visible from other apps so you can use a midi router (like in AUM)

  • wimwim
    edited November 2020

    @mojozart said:
    Below is Thesys with a Network Session and an AUM Egoist. But still, no DESTINATIONS in DrumComputer.

    Thanks. iOS version? If you're on iOS 14 then maybe their quick-fix for the crashing problem was just to remove midi out altogether for iOS 14 peeps.

  • mojozartmojozart

    @Carnbot said:

    @wim said:

    @mojozart said:
    As @Vibes71 screenshot shows, this is missing from DrumComputer.

    But ... if you don't mind can you please give me a yes or no answer to this question: Do you have AUM running in the background when you see no destinations?

    Can you first start AUM, then start DC, then go to the settings in DC and tell me if you see AUM or not?

    Sorry if it seems like I'm being pushy. I don't mean to. I'm only trying to get to the bottom of why I see these destinations and you do not.

    Btw you can still use it because from some apps the port is still visible from other apps so you can use a midi router (like in AUM)

    If I try to route it in iPadOS 14.2, DrumComputer crashes and/or no events are transmitted.

  • wimwim

    @mojozart said:

    @Carnbot said:

    @wim said:

    @mojozart said:
    As @Vibes71 screenshot shows, this is missing from DrumComputer.

    But ... if you don't mind can you please give me a yes or no answer to this question: Do you have AUM running in the background when you see no destinations?

    Can you first start AUM, then start DC, then go to the settings in DC and tell me if you see AUM or not?

    Sorry if it seems like I'm being pushy. I don't mean to. I'm only trying to get to the bottom of why I see these destinations and you do not.

    Btw you can still use it because from some apps the port is still visible from other apps so you can use a midi router (like in AUM)

    If I try to route it in iPadOS 14.2, DrumComputer crashes and/or no events are transmitted.

    @Carnbot - As far as I can tell, the 'Drum Computer' midi source port never did anything, even on 13.7. I always had to use 'AUM Destination'.

  • Lil_Stu07Lil_Stu07

    @reasOne said:

    @Lil_Stu07 said:

    @Lil_Stu07 said:

    @robosardine said:
    What’s the situation for those of you with the newer iPads? Drum Computer runs on an Air2 and you can have a few others on the go - but not to many.

    What is the DSP showing?
    Can you run Drum Computer alongside say Gadget and Groovebox all with effects in their channels and maybe even more? Or is that too much?
    Can you give some idea?
    Thanks

    https://www.dropbox.com/s/7ddxkuubd6cb6n1/Video Nov 07, 7 11 03 PM.mp4?dl=0

    iPad Air 3 256gb IPadOS 13.7

    Newer ipads can handle this no problem. I honestly don't see where you would need more than 2 instances, since that gives you 16 tracks. But wanted to show how many it could run without crashing alongside gadget and Module.

    dang that ran smooth 🤣

    the issue i come across is when i open an instance of dc to edit it while a host and other apps are running, mega crackles. i’ve only really tested in ns2 with two factorys and tal u and one dc tho, aum is lighter

    https://www.dropbox.com/s/iqn4sp6tjou3nu4/Video Nov 07, 7 37 36 PM.mp4?dl=0

    Glad I did that, forgot I started a project a couple weeks back lol. Just need drums. What a coincidence lol. Maybe a pad and some fx. Lol. Just added factory and DC for this example. But yeah air 3 handles this well.

  • CarnbotCarnbot

    @mojozart said:

    @Carnbot said:

    @wim said:

    @mojozart said:
    As @Vibes71 screenshot shows, this is missing from DrumComputer.

    But ... if you don't mind can you please give me a yes or no answer to this question: Do you have AUM running in the background when you see no destinations?

    Can you first start AUM, then start DC, then go to the settings in DC and tell me if you see AUM or not?

    Sorry if it seems like I'm being pushy. I don't mean to. I'm only trying to get to the bottom of why I see these destinations and you do not.

    Btw you can still use it because from some apps the port is still visible from other apps so you can use a midi router (like in AUM)

    If I try to route it in iPadOS 14.2, DrumComputer crashes and/or no events are transmitted.

    oh ok, I've never really used the standalone much only the AU, I'm sure they'll fix it though.

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  • CarnbotCarnbot
    edited November 2020

    Yeah they > @wim said:

    @mojozart said:

    @Carnbot said:

    @wim said:

    @mojozart said:
    As @Vibes71 screenshot shows, this is missing from DrumComputer.

    But ... if you don't mind can you please give me a yes or no answer to this question: Do you have AUM running in the background when you see no destinations?

    Can you first start AUM, then start DC, then go to the settings in DC and tell me if you see AUM or not?

    Sorry if it seems like I'm being pushy. I don't mean to. I'm only trying to get to the bottom of why I see these destinations and you do not.

    Btw you can still use it because from some apps the port is still visible from other apps so you can use a midi router (like in AUM)

    If I try to route it in iPadOS 14.2, DrumComputer crashes and/or no events are transmitted.

    @Carnbot - As far as I can tell, the 'Drum Computer' midi source port never did anything, even on 13.7. I always had to use 'AUM Destination'.

    I never used it so far to be honest, but it does show all my midi inputs and outputs of my midi interface on 13.7
    On 14.2 it shows sources but not destinations, so yeah maybe they removed to fix crashes for now.

  • Lil_Stu07Lil_Stu07

    @ehehehe said:
    Again regarding CPU usage: are the swing and humanize knobs in the sequencer laggy when tweaking while it’s running on newer ipads?

    https://www.dropbox.com/s/2vbl7s5plkbzn4g/Video Nov 07, 7 52 06 PM.mp4?dl=0

    Quickly throwing a drum sequence together and playing with the sequencer.

  • Lil_Stu07Lil_Stu07

    Lol. The bass sounds so bad through screen record. Oof.

  • ProppaProppa

    @Shabudua said:
    I notice the CLAP sound randomizer profile doesn’t generate anything I would ever identify as a hand clap. Usually it sound like a cymbal or metallic percussion. Is it working as intended?

    I'm noticing this too and getting approx 1 "clap-ish" sound per 4 or 5 Randomizer taps. Even then I'm getting more "alt-snare" style sounds than claps proper but I don't mind this at all. It's okay if one can semi disregard the clap graphic and one solve is load favorite claps (and kicks if those are an issue) to the Sample slots.

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  • Lil_Stu07Lil_Stu07

    @ehehehe said:
    Thanks, what ipad are you running? Seems smooth enough, not that they are intended for live tweaking but those seem like some of the knobs doing the most resource wise.

    iPad Air 3 256gb IPadOS 13.7

  • robosardinerobosardine

    @Lil_Stu07 said:

    @robosardine said:
    What’s the situation for those of you with the newer iPads? Drum Computer runs on an Air2 and you can have a few others on the go - but not to many.

    What is the DSP showing?
    Can you run Drum Computer alongside say Gadget and Groovebox all with effects in their channels and maybe even more? Or is that too much?
    Can you give some idea?
    Thanks

    https://www.dropbox.com/s/7ddxkuubd6cb6n1/Video Nov 07, 7 11 03 PM.mp4?dl=0

    iPad Air 3 256gb IPadOS 13.7

    Thanks very much for that.
    Man that’s impressive. I wasn’t expecting quite such a big difference!
    Air2 swatted 🥊

  • reasOnereasOne

    @Lil_Stu07 said:

    @reasOne said:

    @Lil_Stu07 said:

    @Lil_Stu07 said:

    @robosardine said:
    What’s the situation for those of you with the newer iPads? Drum Computer runs on an Air2 and you can have a few others on the go - but not to many.

    What is the DSP showing?
    Can you run Drum Computer alongside say Gadget and Groovebox all with effects in their channels and maybe even more? Or is that too much?
    Can you give some idea?
    Thanks

    https://www.dropbox.com/s/7ddxkuubd6cb6n1/Video Nov 07, 7 11 03 PM.mp4?dl=0

    iPad Air 3 256gb IPadOS 13.7

    Newer ipads can handle this no problem. I honestly don't see where you would need more than 2 instances, since that gives you 16 tracks. But wanted to show how many it could run without crashing alongside gadget and Module.

    dang that ran smooth 🤣

    the issue i come across is when i open an instance of dc to edit it while a host and other apps are running, mega crackles. i’ve only really tested in ns2 with two factorys and tal u and one dc tho, aum is lighter

    https://www.dropbox.com/s/iqn4sp6tjou3nu4/Video Nov 07, 7 37 36 PM.mp4?dl=0

    Glad I did that, forgot I started a project a couple weeks back lol. Just need drums. What a coincidence lol. Maybe a pad and some fx. Lol. Just added factory and DC for this example. But yeah air 3 handles this well.

    smooth!!! what do you have for audio buffer set to? i have the 2017 pro, i think your air3 has better chip

  • robosardinerobosardine

    @Shabudua said:
    I notice the CLAP sound randomizer profile doesn’t generate anything I would ever identify as a hand clap. Usually it sound like a cymbal or metallic percussion. Is it working as intended?

    There’s a couple of us mentioned this in one of the other threads - it’s been reported as a bug now. Feel free to join in flagging it to them - maybe more mentions will give it more attention.

  • Lil_Stu07Lil_Stu07

    @reasOne said:

    @Lil_Stu07 said:

    @reasOne said:

    @Lil_Stu07 said:

    @Lil_Stu07 said:

    @robosardine said:
    What’s the situation for those of you with the newer iPads? Drum Computer runs on an Air2 and you can have a few others on the go - but not to many.

    What is the DSP showing?
    Can you run Drum Computer alongside say Gadget and Groovebox all with effects in their channels and maybe even more? Or is that too much?
    Can you give some idea?
    Thanks

    https://www.dropbox.com/s/7ddxkuubd6cb6n1/Video Nov 07, 7 11 03 PM.mp4?dl=0

    iPad Air 3 256gb IPadOS 13.7

    Newer ipads can handle this no problem. I honestly don't see where you would need more than 2 instances, since that gives you 16 tracks. But wanted to show how many it could run without crashing alongside gadget and Module.

    dang that ran smooth 🤣

    the issue i come across is when i open an instance of dc to edit it while a host and other apps are running, mega crackles. i’ve only really tested in ns2 with two factorys and tal u and one dc tho, aum is lighter

    https://www.dropbox.com/s/iqn4sp6tjou3nu4/Video Nov 07, 7 37 36 PM.mp4?dl=0

    Glad I did that, forgot I started a project a couple weeks back lol. Just need drums. What a coincidence lol. Maybe a pad and some fx. Lol. Just added factory and DC for this example. But yeah air 3 handles this well.

    smooth!!! what do you have for audio buffer set to? i have the 2017 pro, i think your air3 has better chip

    Not sure what that translates to but I usually set it to 256. Some apps can go 128, but some can't so I usually stay at 256.

  • Lil_Stu07Lil_Stu07

    No difference when I change to high or very low on this project in NS2. 🤷🏾‍♂️

  • anicktanickt

    @FlightManual said:
    I say it is incredible. The sounds I can create are vast for each drum, and by tweaking a knob or two I can get that sound to be a in a completely different realm. As far as the comments saying it sounds flat and such, I respectfully disagree. The kicks I'm getting are fantastically thick and meaty, and I get to tweak and layer stuff easily. I have Beatmaker 3 and find it tedious, and I want to love Drambo and find it about as fun as IKEA furniture building. Patterning comes close, because the sequencing is so fun, but building kits of your own isn't. Drum Computer is a 10 out of 10 for me. Pure sugar.

    But hey, that's just my take.

    +1

  • Lil_Stu07Lil_Stu07

    @anickt said:

    @FlightManual said:
    I say it is incredible. The sounds I can create are vast for each drum, and by tweaking a knob or two I can get that sound to be a in a completely different realm. As far as the comments saying it sounds flat and such, I respectfully disagree. The kicks I'm getting are fantastically thick and meaty, and I get to tweak and layer stuff easily. I have Beatmaker 3 and find it tedious, and I want to love Drambo and find it about as fun as IKEA furniture building. Patterning comes close, because the sequencing is so fun, but building kits of your own isn't. Drum Computer is a 10 out of 10 for me. Pure sugar.

    But hey, that's just my take.

    +1

    Yep and if the kick isn't enough, there's always bass 808 and/or noir, but DC is pretty thick and amazing. She's treating me good.

  • craftycuratecraftycurate
    edited November 2020

    @celtic_elk said:

    @craftycurate said:

    @d4d0ug said:
    Something that surprises me (a little), is the inclusion of the 2 reverbs - room and hall.... to me, it would have made sense to include a delay and one reverb... no big deal, but would have been neat.

    +1... Omission of a delay, or a more extensive FX section is surprising.

    I disagree. You've got per-track distortion, filtering, and compression, plus two reverbs (with per-track sends) and a mastering unit, plus two LFOs per track. Both interface clutter and CPU-load considerations have to come into play.

    The basic set of effects supplied are the minimum I’d expect. A few more effect options would turn this into a creative powerhouse.

    Also LFOs aren’t audio effects, and delays are generally quite light on CPU. Also, there are already a number of tabbed sections which neatly manage the task of keeping the GUI tidy so there would be plenty of places to fit delay GUI into that somewhere.

  • mojozartmojozart

    @slicetwo said:

    @mojozart said:

    @slicetwo said:

    @mojozart said:

    @slicetwo said:
    I wish the pitch and decay mod sliders in the sequencer were Bipolar. It seems like a massive oversight that you can't decrease those per step, only increase.

    I think it was done this way so that the contour functions such as Init, Invert, and Ramp would apply consistently to all the parameters.

    I firmly stand by my feelings. Haha.

    And I just noticed that Ofs is centered in the middle with a negative and positive range, so my rationalization doesn't hold.

  • RajahPRajahP

    I guess this is Doug’s video..

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