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  • dwraedwrae

    @edk said:

    @espiegel123 said:

    As a test, load a midi monitor app and send to that to see if it was sent..to make sure the issue isn’t on the receiving side.

    Yes I load up midi spy and can see it sends program change on 192 and the respective program change number.

    192 is 0xC0, where C is program change and 0 is the MIDI channel number, so that sounds about right. According to the user manual of your device "MIDI program change messages 0-127 will select pattern 1-128 (A01 - H16) on the Analog Rytm". Page 55/56 talks about the MIDI CONFIG menu where you need to activate "PRG CH RECEIVE". "PRG CH RECEIVE will when active make Analog Rytm respond to incoming program change messages, which is useful when wanting to select patterns externally. The MIDI channel that will listen to incoming program change messages is set in the MIDI CHANNELS menu, covered on page 56"

    Hopefully that helps.

  • edkedk

    @dwrae said:

    @edk said:

    @espiegel123 said:

    As a test, load a midi monitor app and send to that to see if it was sent..to make sure the issue isn’t on the receiving side.

    Yes I load up midi spy and can see it sends program change on 192 and the respective program change number.

    192 is 0xC0, where C is program change and 0 is the MIDI channel number, so that sounds about right. According to the user manual of your device "MIDI program change messages 0-127 will select pattern 1-128 (A01 - H16) on the Analog Rytm". Page 55/56 talks about the MIDI CONFIG menu where you need to activate "PRG CH RECEIVE". "PRG CH RECEIVE will when active make Analog Rytm respond to incoming program change messages, which is useful when wanting to select patterns externally. The MIDI channel that will listen to incoming program change messages is set in the MIDI CHANNELS menu, covered on page 56"

    Hopefully that helps.

    yes it's all setup right. I've tested it with a MPC one sending program change message and it works just fine. I also tried to mute channels and it also doesn't work.

  • dwraedwrae

    @edk said:

    @dwrae said:

    @edk said:

    @espiegel123 said:

    As a test, load a midi monitor app and send to that to see if it was sent..to make sure the issue isn’t on the receiving side.

    Yes I load up midi spy and can see it sends program change on 192 and the respective program change number.

    192 is 0xC0, where C is program change and 0 is the MIDI channel number, so that sounds about right. According to the user manual of your device "MIDI program change messages 0-127 will select pattern 1-128 (A01 - H16) on the Analog Rytm". Page 55/56 talks about the MIDI CONFIG menu where you need to activate "PRG CH RECEIVE". "PRG CH RECEIVE will when active make Analog Rytm respond to incoming program change messages, which is useful when wanting to select patterns externally. The MIDI channel that will listen to incoming program change messages is set in the MIDI CHANNELS menu, covered on page 56"

    Hopefully that helps.

    yes it's all setup right. I've tested it with a MPC one sending program change message and it works just fine. I also tried to mute channels and it also doesn't work.

    Ok, I'm afraid I don't know then. I just connected a JV-1080 by a E-MU USB midi cable, created a MIDI track, entered a program change, set the MIDI output of the track to the E-MU XMidi and the JV-1080 changes program when I play it back.

  • espiegel123espiegel123

    @edk said:

    @espiegel123 said:

    As a test, load a midi monitor app and send to that to see if it was sent..to make sure the issue isn’t on the receiving side.

    Yes I load up midi spy and can see it sends program change on 192 and the respective program change number.

    @dwrae said:

    @edk said:
    I just bought AEM and tried it out. It doesn't seem to send program change to the AR.
    I set on AR to receive on program change on channel 1 and set AEM out on midi channel 1 in program change. I put say 1 at bar 1 and 3 and bar 4, and start play and it doesn't send out the changes. Did I miss something out here?

    Please select the Output button on the track and see if the right MIDI device is selected.

    yes that is also selected. tried both tick to midi event and also to specific channel.
    I also tried with the blofeld pulse2, it doesn't work, maybe it's due to the bank, msb and lsb values.

    To simplify testing, you might wa> @edk said:

    @espiegel123 said:

    As a test, load a midi monitor app and send to that to see if it was sent..to make sure the issue isn’t on the receiving side.

    Yes I load up midi spy and can see it sends program change on 192 and the respective program change number.

    @dwrae said:

    @edk said:
    I just bought AEM and tried it out. It doesn't seem to send program change to the AR.
    I set on AR to receive on program change on channel 1 and set AEM out on midi channel 1 in program change. I put say 1 at bar 1 and 3 and bar 4, and start play and it doesn't send out the changes. Did I miss something out here?

    Please select the Output button on the track and see if the right MIDI device is selected.

    yes that is also selected. tried both tick to midi event and also to specific channel.
    I also tried with the blofeld pulse2, it doesn't work, maybe it's due to the bank, msb and lsb values.

    From what you describe, it sounds like AEM is sending the PC message

  • echooperaechoopera
    edited March 2023

    @edk said:

    @dwrae said:

    @edk said:
    Hi,

    I'm looking for a DAW that is able to program change the Elektron AR mk1. The manual says there is a program change parameter but I was wondering if anyone had tried sending program change to the AR? does it work?

    I see no reason why it wouldn't work. It would be a matter of creating a (pure) MIDI track and adding program changes in the piano roll.

    I just bought AEM and tried it out. It doesn't seem to send program change to the AR.
    I set on AR to receive on program change on channel 1 and set AEM out on midi channel 1 in program change. I put say 1 at bar 1 and 3 and bar 4, and start play and it doesn't send out the changes. Did I miss something out here?

    How are you connecting the Analog Rytm to the iPad. Does is support Midi over USB? Have you tried sending Midi other than Program change to it? Does it receive notes from the iPad to play the Rytms pads?

    Also the MPC One doesn’t do Midi over USB. You need a Midi to USB dongle for it to work with the iPad. Either the Roland or iConnect USB to Midi Dongles will work when paired with the iPad. Is use the iConnect ones for my MPC One and OctaTrack when i want to use them in conjunction with the iPad.

    https://www.amazon.com/iConnectivity-mio-1-out-MIDI-Interface/dp/B00CO5IRSG/ref=asc_df_B00CO5IRSG?tag=bngsmtphsnus-20&linkCode=df0&hvadid=80745502742789&hvnetw=s&hvqmt=e&hvbmt=be&hvdev=m&hvlocint=&hvlocphy=&hvtargid=pla-4584345029948665&psc=1

  • edkedk

    @echoopera said:
    How are you connecting the Analog Rytm to the iPad. Does is support Midi over USB? Have you tried sending Midi other than Program change to it? Does it receive notes from the iPad to play the Rytms pads?

    yes to all. the setup is the same and I've used it together with Collider and the AR. It's not a direct connection as the usb cable from AR goes thru switches and hubs to arrive at the ipad with CCK. No issues in AUM able to trigger notes in any synth.

    Also the MPC One doesn’t do Midi over USB. You need a Midi to USB dongle for it to work with the iPad. Either the Roland or iConnect USB to Midi Dongles will work when paired with the iPad. Is use the iConnect ones for my MPC One and OctaTrack when i want to use them in conjunction with the iPad.

    I meant to say that the MPC is connected via usb to AR, and program change is received. I mentioned this just to be sure that PC is recieved in the AR.
    BTW, I don't own a Octatrack but could you try it out to send program change or even mutes from AEM?

    @dwrae so far when i add nodes to it, they are just dots with a number next to it. should there be a vertical line connecting them together?

  • dwraedwrae

    @edk said:
    @dwrae so far when i add nodes to it, they are just dots with a number next to it. should there be a vertical line connecting them together?

    No, they are individual events. It's not like automation where the software generates values between two automation points.

  • edkedk

    I just tired with Modstep and Program change work just fine with the same setup, program changing on the AR.

  • dwraedwrae

    @edk said:
    I just tired with Modstep and Program change work just fine with the same setup, program changing on the AR.

    Is it the exact same MIDI program change number and MIDI channel?

  • edkedk

    @dwrae said:

    @edk said:
    I just tired with Modstep and Program change work just fine with the same setup, program changing on the AR.

    Is it the exact same MIDI program change number and MIDI channel?

    well on modstep, i set 1st clip with PC on and set the pc nr and the 2nd clip with a different number, switching between the clips changes the pc number. In IO settings, midi channel is set to PC receive channel on AR.

    in Settings, I can select 4 different types of midi message to be sent or receive, CC, Notes, Clock, USB.

    I didn't find such settings in AEM, maybe I miss out on that?

  • dwraedwrae

    @edk said:
    I didn't find such settings in AEM, maybe I miss out on that?

    When you tap on the event type button at the top-left in the piano roll editor, you select the MIDI type event (Note, CC, PC, etc.). Then you enter the PC event(s) on the piano roll and when the playhead passes the event, it will send it out. Selecting a clip will most definitely not send any MIDI event by itself.

  • FitzFitz

    Just out of curiosity, is there are a reason why ibassist and the Lumbeat drum apps aren’t available in AEM? And any plans for adding Ableton Link?

  • wimwim
    edited March 2023

    @Fitz said:
    Just out of curiosity, is there are a reason why ibassist and the Lumbeat drum apps aren’t available in AEM? And any plans for adding Ableton Link?

    Same reason as in Cubasis. The Lumbeats apps classify themselves as Generators rather than Instruments. In iOS speak, a Generator makes sound without needing MIDI input, and an Instrument needs MIDI note input to make sound. It's an unfortunate distinction since they can indeed accept MIDI input.

    You can add the Lumbeats apps if you create an Audio track and then set the input for that track. You should see a list that includes them.

    I'm guessing you have to add a MIDI out track and point that to the drummer app to play it from AEM. I'm not having luck with that so far, but it wouldn't be the first time that Lumbeats apps are uncooperative with MIDI input.

  • wimwim
    edited March 2023

    One more thing ... You will probably need to load Lumbeats apps, and most other standalone/IAA apps, before adding into AEM. That's the case since a few iOS major versions now.

  • FitzFitz

    @wim said:
    One more thing ... You will probably need to load Lumbeats apps, and most other standalone/IAA apps, before adding into AEM. That's the case since a few iOS major versions now.

    Thanks for the reply. I actually managed to start Soft Drummer without an issue. I just created a midi track with a g2 note and used network session 1 in Soft Drummer. Is there a way to have a midi track without a sound? By default it seems to load a piano. Thanks again, that all makes sense

  • FitzFitz

    @Fitz said:

    @wim said:
    One more thing ... You will probably need to load Lumbeats apps, and most other standalone/IAA apps, before adding into AEM. That's the case since a few iOS major versions now.

    Thanks for the reply. I actually managed to start Soft Drummer without an issue. I just created a midi track with a g2 note and used network session 1 in Soft Drummer. Is there a way to have a midi track without a sound? By default it seems to load a piano. Thanks again, that all makes sense

    Sorry, midi track not instrument track! Got it

  • frosttrance_7frosttrance_7

    Any idea when the multicore update will come out?

  • dwraedwrae

    @frosttrance_7 said:
    Any idea when the multicore update will come out?

    There are currently blocking problems that prevent it to be released. I am going to try one more thing in the coming days.

  • frosttrance_7frosttrance_7

    @dwrae said:

    @frosttrance_7 said:
    Any idea when the multicore update will come out?

    There are currently blocking problems that prevent it to be released. I am going to try one more thing in the coming days.

    Good luck with that!

  • dwraedwrae

    Audio Evolution Mobile Studio v5.7.2 for iOS has been released:

    • New 'Clean up project' dialog that takes all project files of the project into account. File references of all project files are gathered to determine which audio files can be deleted.
    • The Media Server works again on iOS14+.
    • MIDI Parameter feedback did not work for busses. Solved.
    • Bus volume could only be controlled up to 0dB using MIDI Remote Setup. Solved.
    • Vocal Tune Pro now updates its controls after loading a preset or applying automation.
    • Added a MIDI remote setup command 'Next button' which can be used to press the Next button from a MIDI control.
    • Optimized effect processing chain for better cache utilisation which improves performance slightly.
  • NoiseHorseNoiseHorse

    Thanks @dwrae that Clean up thingie will be a big help with how I work. AEM has become a super feature monster that is solid as a rock.

  • frosttrance_7frosttrance_7

    I guess there will never be multi-core support then. I hate working with Cubasis. Nice to have a new update though.

  • dwraedwrae

    @frosttrance_7 said:
    I guess there will never be multi-core support then. I hate working with Cubasis. Nice to have a new update though.

    This update has nothing to do whether there will be multi-core support. It's just that people who were waiting for these fixes shouldn't have to wait until the multi-core issue has been sorted. I'll be back on it soon.

  • ArtemArtem

    @dwrae I can't get used to the "Next" button in the upper right corner. Maybe this is convenient for phones with small screens, where there is not enough space for individual buttons, but there is space on the iPad. Have you thought about adding an option to the settings to switch to 3 separate buttons instead of the "Next" button?

  • dwraedwrae

    @Artem said:
    @dwrae I can't get used to the "Next" button in the upper right corner. Maybe this is convenient for phones with small screens, where there is not enough space for individual buttons, but there is space on the iPad. Have you thought about adding an option to the settings to switch to 3 separate buttons instead of the "Next" button?

    There are plans for a mixer and keyboard button at the bottom.

  • ArtemArtem

    @dwrae said:
    There are plans for a mixer and keyboard button at the bottom.

    👍

  • dwraedwrae

    Audio Evolution Mobile Studio v5.7.5 for iOS released:

    • 'Mute during count-in' state was not set correctly when opening the Tempo dialog. Solved.
    • When recording notes played on an AUv3 instrument (as opposed to the virtual or external keyboard), the timestamp was incorrect when using count-in or recording from an offset. Solved.
    • Solved an issue with loop playback of MIDI clips.
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    You do a great job and a good follow up for this Daw.

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  • rollinrollin

    @tja said:

    @dwrae said:

    @Artem said:
    @dwrae I can't get used to the "Next" button in the upper right corner. Maybe this is convenient for phones with small screens, where there is not enough space for individual buttons, but there is space on the iPad. Have you thought about adding an option to the settings to switch to 3 separate buttons instead of the "Next" button?

    There are plans for a mixer and keyboard button at the bottom.

    That would be great, I never really understood this sequence of Next, Next, Next, Next, ...

    It took me a while to build the muscle memory. Now it's transparent to just do multiple taps on next as if it was a single menu item.

    I like the design, I am on mobile though and can imagine it being a different experience for those on tablets.

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