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ICA4 has been totally rock solid for me, I love it. bit noisy though.
Yeah, i was hoping i would have same experience, but over two weeks of trying to make it work, it just gave me a headache and anxiety. Especially because i saw some nice work flow people posting online.
Is there an overview somewhere about what this interface can and can't do when it comes to integrating and iPad with a desktop DAW over USB?
How many tracks can be routed digitally from a desktop DAW like Ableton through e.g. AUM and back into it?
What's wrong with the Auracle software? Does it limit any of those routing capabilities?
Thanks.
So yeah hard to find info on this.
I believe you can have at least 8 in/8 out from one USB port to the other (from AUM to desktop Daw for example) but do not remember exactly how many you can have simultaneously!
With the Auracle software you cannot really dive into complex routing etc. Even though I use it sometimes to reset the routing matrix!
with iconfig you can have many many different set ups, for me i run at 96khz 24bit so that cuts the channels down by half but i still have -
4 mono analogue line/mic inputs from the ICA4 and 2 stereo inputs from IPAD into my PC DAW
4 mono analogue line/mic inputs from the ICA4 and 2 stereo inputs from PC DAW into my IPAD
It would be used mostly for sends, so that I don't have to bake and automate all the effects before I export tracks into my DAW from Drambo or have to repurchase the same effects on the desktop which isn't possible in some cases. I'd save the preset in the plugin, and then recall it in an AUM session thats hooked up with the sends in Ableton where I do the automation. Typically 6 stereo sends that have to flow in and out of the iPad digitally.
The other solution which might be less of a headache is limiting myself to effect plugins that exist on both platforms and just purchase them for the desktop too, price wise it would be almost the same.
In 44.1/48 khz you can run up to 20 mono channels (10 stereo) between the devices.
If one device is only sender and the other only receiver, this means 20 channels can be sent but in this case the sender cannot receive anything.
If send/receive are evenly distributed between devices, it means each device can send/receive 10 channels.
Any combination will fit, as long as the sum doesn‘t exceed 20 mono channels.
You can combine mono/stereo channels any way you like.
Yeah, the routing is fairly flexible which is the main advantage of it.
Thanks, that's plenty. To make it work I'll need the iconfig tool? Or is it possible with Auracle?
What about OS updates for iconfig and Auracle? How quickly do they appear after a new OS release from Apple?
Doesn‘t seem to matter much.
I‘m running iConfig 4.2.7 from 2017 on a MacMini M1 (Monterey)
iConnectivity have long given up on iConfig, but released the source into public domain.
It‘s continued as ReConfig4Audio on GitHub and also available (free) on the appstore.
iConfig should be used on MacOS or Windows, ReConfig has stabilized the IOS version significantly. You absolutely need one of these for routing.
Auracle is a piece of crap imho, and doesn‘t do the interface justice at all.
As mentioned frequently:
iConfig is kind of difficult to understand due to it‘s terminology and (partly) it’s design.
But it‘s use is actually simple... and it‘s worth the effort to learn.
another point which Telefunky mentioned is the midi routing.
ICA4 is a monster when it comes to midi routing, PC to Ipad to hardware midi works a treat and you can use a USB hub,
My MacMini M1 runs Sonoma. Just switched recently from an old Haswell Hackintosh with Big Sur.
Allright, if someone can confirm that it works with Sonoma without problems I'll get one in the coming weeks.
Lol. And it seems that it's also lacking support for Sonoma, Ventura is the most recent version it supports.
Kinda strange that there is no competition with similar features yet. Is this due to patents?
Yeah, without it it seems that it would be more of a paperweight.
Definitely no patents. These dudes just knew how to program a microcontroller and about midi (there‘s a full sysex documentation for the interface)
Nerds in the most positive sense
I have the iCA4+ for about a decade now and consider it one of my most sophisticated devices.
I suspect that making the device a slave to two USB hosts, smoothly passing data between them, is a bit complicated, and not in too much demand. They need to have a decent processor in there to handle the USB interfaces and shuffle the buffers around.
I think there was a specific chip they used to enable the dual USB hosts in the discontinued model 4+ before the 4c. It was discontinued because the chip was no longer going to available.
We think of ourselves and our specialized needs as a significant market segment sometimes. We're really just a tiny niche. 😉
Too rich for my blood, but I'm happy to see iConnectivity Audio gets it though.
@kirmesteggno I can confirm that the iConnectivity iConfig app works on Sonoma on an M1 Mac. I use it daily. The graphics are glitchy in places, but it all works as intended:
Edit: ReConfig4Audio (the iPad app) is also available in the Mac App Store and runs on the Mac.
Thanks a lot for all the info folks. Now I'm thinking about a good USB-Hub strategy between the iConnect4c, the MacMini and the 9th gen iPad with Lightning, currently I'm just using a Dell monitor as a hub with the MacMini.
The idea was to get one of those stackable dock ones like Qwiizlab to save some space on the desk but use it with the iPad and 4c instead.
my mistake, i see you want to use the usb c ica4.
What is the right combination to use?
The ipad 9th gen also came with a Lightning to USB-C cable which works for charging and IDAM when connected to the TB ports ont e MacMini. I can't use that cable and plug it into the 3.0A port of the ICA 4C can't I?
i don't have the usb c version so i can't comment.
if that does work then you don't really need to buy the dock unless you really need extra ports.
Some iConnectivity models came with a special Lightning cable that could charge the Lightning iPad as well as providing the USB connection. This was clearly described in the documentation.
If your iConnectivity device only has a normal USB port, you will not be able to charge the Lightning iPad with the USB connection alone. You will need the newer "USB 3.0 Camera Adapter" which has a separate Lightning charge port alongside the USB port.
It's good they open sourced the iconfig software.
I've just found this Linux and Windows app for desktop control which seems a good alternative for using the stock iconfig app, not sure of compatibility with 4C.
https://github.com/dehnhardt/iconnconfig
maybe there are also other versions available, not sure....
where can i find the actual application to download? i found a zip file but no windows app?
if you go to releases it's there under assets:
https://github.com/dehnhardt/iconnconfig/releases
Yeah it seems like the cable came with the older version from 2014.
I'm curious about the included USB-C to USB-A adapter of the 2021 version visible in the pic I've posted, if this thing can put through the charging power to the iPad using the single adapter, or if I need the other adapter below and connect a separate power source.
Are USB hubs connected to the USB-A Host port of the ICA4c (2021) accessible from both Mac and iPad?
Can I connect a SSD to the USB-A Host port on the back of the ICA 4c directly? In the manual there's only a word about USB MIDI devices, not other USB peripherals. If I can't connect other devices with additional storage the whole idea won't work.
no its a USB connection for a USB midi hub not for SSD/HD.
So basically by adding the Iconnect I have to give up external storage options while It's connected. That's a dealbreaker unfortunately.
OK, good luck in your search for an audio device without using a USB port, i have a PC with tons of USB ports and tons of internal storage so never an issue in my case.