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The Nightmare that is a Reality
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Since I try to remain optimistic, I am heartened to see that these willfully stupid magabilly mouth-breathers are finally embracing “my body, my choice”
Who would have ever thought such a thing?
You continue to mischaracterize my posts. In the US, about 99% of everyone who contracts COVID recovers after experiencing mild cold or flu-like symptoms. Less than 1% (in the US) die from COVID. That’s because of ill health or underlying severe issues, such as heart, lung or related things like diabetes make them particularly vulnerable.
It is untrue to suggest people are dying with no underlying physical conditions or illnesses. And the elderly remain the most vulnerable, however the majority of them have already been vaccinated in my State. Other States might be different.
And never have I said one cannot GET COVID unless there are underlying health problems. Everyone is going to get COVID eventually. I’m betting more people have already had it and recovered than realize at this point, which would make them getting vaccinated pointless. Natural immunity is superior to any vaccine. And even if people have been vaccinated, Fauci and the CDC say you can STILL be a carrier and spreader, so YOU DO YOU and GET VACCINATED.
And it appears no matter how many times I write this next part, at least one inattentive critic will continue to assert the opposite: GET VACCINATED IF YOU NEED TO OR WANT TO, BUT STOP SUGGESTING OTHERS SHOULD BE FORCED TO COMPLY.
Now, why don’t some of the critics here (who profess to be so concerned) shout to the rooftops about China blocking all efforts to investigate the origins of COVID? I think every nation on the planet should stop doing any business with China until they cooperate.
Are you planning to send back all the Chinese manufactured goods or goods containing Chinese parts in protest?
WHATABOUT CHINA!? is a helluva take.
But now that the Pfizer vaccine is officially approved by the FDA, all of those hesitant and concerned citizens will no doubt get the jab. But wait?! What’s that sound? Could it be the goalposts being moved even further off? has Fox News already found a reason to undermine this latest decision?
The “Left” is full of anti vaxxers, why do ppl always pin it all on the “right” as who is the problem.
The left is the OG AntiVax Crew. Half the ppl I know who won’t get the vacc are liberal voters.
We Need a couple new vaccines, for TDS and Qanonism
Oh and Thanks ChinaGov for the super flu! (They need to be held accountable)
On another note, How long till the Taliban gets Talibanned on Twitter?
I’m one of the super at risk, and I ain’t scared, and I ain’t mad at anyone who hasn’t taken the vax yet.
Getting mad at people and yelling/fighting solves nothing. It’s crazy times.
But don’t worry, the super team of Biden&Harris will sort this all out lol #clownworld
You keep mischaracterizing what I said AND mischaracterizing your own words.
You have repeatedly said that COVID only affects the elderly and those with underlying medical conditions. Here are some examples of your words:
"...COVID and its variants affect elderly adults and those with serious underlying health problems. Not kids in general. This is not new information."
" It is untrue to suggest people are dying with no underlying physical conditions or illnesses. "
This last statement is flat untrue. Many people have died with no underlying physical conditions. That is a fact.
It is true that having underlying health issues makes you much more vulnerable. But many many many people have died without underlying physical conditions.
That is a fact.
It is also true that death isn't the only devastating negative consequence.
This natural immunity is superior stuff you keep repeating is also untrue. The vaccine has been shown to provide better protection.
whataboutism
bothsides
Self edit: why bother?
Ah, yes… the old “do nothing and hope for the best” approach. Always works.
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Half the people you know who are anti-vax may be liberal voters, but I fear that proportion doesn't bear out in reality. It doesn't mean that liberals are all forward-thinking and that conservatives are anti-science. It might mean that right-wing media and Republican politicians have made the calculation that it's profitable to have an anti-vax stance. This breakdown makes it pretty clear.
There's A Stark Red-Blue Divide When It Comes To States' Vaccination Rates
You claim: “This last statement is flat untrue. Many people have died with no underlying physical conditions. That is a fact.”
Cite the cases.
Oh, wait… I’ll save you the trouble. Here’s a report from the UK: https://www.ons.gov.uk/aboutus/transparencyandgovernance/freedomofinformationfoi/deathsfromcovid19ofpeoplewithnounderlyinghealthconditionsbyage
But HERE’S the kicker: “Out of the recorded pre-existing conditions within this report, obesity is not recorded.”
OBESITY IS A MAJOR CONTRIBUTOR TO COVID DEATHS. It’s a factor!
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2021/aug/04/fit-and-healthy-man-42-from-southport-who-rejected-vaccine-dies-of-covid
@NeuM: as I said: people with underlying conditions are at considerably higher risk. That is radically different from your claim that ONLY people with underlying conditions are at risk of death.
And of course there are considerably more than 1% of the people that become symptomatic that encounter serious non-fatal repercussions.
The British Society for Immunology may not be a worthy opponent to scientific MAGAism, and is certainly no match for just stating things in all caps on this forum, but for what it's worth, they think vaccine-induced immunity is more effective and longer lasting for most peple than the "get COVID and survive it" version.
Two things.
Ivermectin has been, and will continue to be, completely debunked. It’s nonsense and there’s not a serious scientist alive who will say otherwise without being paid by a pro-ivermectin group
@espiegel123 i love you dude.
LOL.
LOVE LETTER TO NeuM:
You answer everyone else but not me. I feel rejected! Please, please answer my question:
If "the science and maths don't support any of it" as you put it, why would governments around the world, both left wing and right wing, support masks, vax and lockdowns?
Every politician would love for COVID to just go away. It is a massive problem for them to contend with. Surley, for political survival, they would take the best path to beat COVID. If successful they would remove a huge load from them to manage, plus they could claim victory through their great leadership. "I led us out of the COVID disaster, vote for me!".
Why would they take a path that science and math doesn't support? That would expose them to accountability at a later date when things go badly wrong and people get sick, the health system collapses under the weight and people die. No politician wants that.
Answer, if you dare.... :-)
I find it odd that someone would complain about tone and being the subject of ad hominem attacks -- and yet LOL at people.
I always cant help but say it like this in my head.
I find it ood that he answers everyone else but not my questions.
I must be asking the right questions... :-)
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The article you posted refutes your position that no-one dies without pre-conditions. I will remind you: you haven't said that people with pre-conditions are at the greatest risk. Your position has been that essentially only people with pre-conditions are at risk.
And, it just needs to be repeated over and over: death is not the only thing that one should consider. For many, there are long-term serious side effects.
Also, not to be overlooked, why do you have so little empathy for people with "pre-conditions" as you call them. It isn't as if all these people with pre-conditions were about die.
Do you consider age a “pre-existing condition”? Because those in the category of senior make up the majority of deaths. By a wide, wide margin.
https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/covid-data/investigations-discovery/hospitalization-death-by-age.html
Also, you’ve made a dishonest argument here. I did not say pre-existing conditions were the ONLY factor. Pre-existing conditions in the high-risk categories and advanced age are known factors.
You keep changing your argument. There is no question that age is a huge factor. But that is categorically different from your repeated assertions that ONLY people with pre-conditions (including age) are at risk of death. Even in the article you posted people with no risk conditions and in the prime of life died.
Many many many people that are not elderly and have no pre-conditions have died. That is indisputed. Is it the minority of the HUGE death toll. Yes. But you didn't argue that healthy people are at less risk. You repeatedly claimed that they were at no risk.
AND that of course ignores that caring people consider near-death and long-term health consequences as important parts of the equation.
Love that guy’s metal interpretations. That’s right. I like this video.
Thank you, it took nine pages of inane redundant chatter but I think we finally got there.
Oh, LOL.
How to unsubscribe?
Right when things were starting to get interesting?