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Can't stop watching the clusterfuck that is Boris and sky news.

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  • @knewspeak said:
    From now on we’re in for a party political broadcast on behalf of the despicable Tory party, from our ‘free’ media.

    Yes yes, it's important that they don't cover the news. [/Picard facepalm]

  • Ironically he seems to have forgotten what "leave" means.

  • You can't see clearly from the way that tweet is cropped inside , bur that text was written by Boris, about Gordon Brown, back in his days as a journalist 🤣

  • @Michael_R_Grant said:

    @knewspeak said:
    From now on we’re in for a party political broadcast on behalf of the despicable Tory party, from our ‘free’ media.

    Yes yes, it's important that they don't cover the news. [/Picard facepalm]

    Never said that they shouldn’t cover it, just allow opponents to comment equally. Not the one-sided tilt of the corrupt media.

  • Which one side would that be?

    The Times, Torygraph, mail, express side

    Or the Iindependent, Grauniad, Mirror side?

  • They’ve created a government, a government of the deluded, by the deluded, for the ……, I think they’ve forgotten people have had enough of this sh#te.

  • @BiancaNeve said:
    Which one side would that be?

    The Times, Torygraph, mail, express side

    Or the Iindependent, Grauniad, Mirror side?

    All the above, they’re staffed by the same old merry-go-round of people, educated at the same schools, almost without exception. Aloof of the populace of this country, but it’s very similar across the globe, just look at the owners of those rag’s.

  • edited July 2022

    .

  • Get exit done!

  • In a statement outside Downing Street, Johnson announced he was stepping down as party leader but said he planned to stay on as prime minister while the party picks his successor.

    So he won't be staying til Autumn after all

  • @Svetlovska said:
    Get exit done!

    Heehee 😉 like it

  • edited July 2022

    @Liquidmantis said:

    @mrufino1 said:
    Seems like the whole world is headed the same way sadly. It’s not a good scene in the US right now either. I have no problem with our current administration (don’t love them, don’t hate them) but the previous administration is still causing craziness that gets worse every day. I don’t belong to either party and frankly I’m sick of most politicians at this point. I’m also pretty sick of people who are being generally stupid and feel that everything is a conspiracy from every side, so they just refuse to follow any rules at all.

    Idiocracy has become a documentary (all around the world) and that is scary.

    On the plus side, I got into NYC early today and decided to walk from port authority to the theater I’m working at on 76th (about 45 blocks, 2.5 miles) since I had time. I was listening to the new Tears for Fears album
    on my walk, which is quite good.

    Then I found out our shows were cancelled due to broken air conditioning in the theater so I went the church where I work and spent 3 hours programming some new scenes and routing on the digico console.

    Why mention that? Because I’m getting too caught up in nonsense I can’t control, but I can control walking on a sunny (and hot!!) day and working on various musical tasks. I’m using this post as a reminder to myself to do more of that and less on YouTube following politicians being entitled and lawless.

    Thanks for reading…😁

    Please subscribe me to your TED talk newsletter. First time listener, instant long time follower.

    Ha! Thanks. It’s a rare moment of clarity for me. I hope this thread stays open so I can read what I wrote. It was really hard to stay away from it last night, but I’m going to keep reading what I wrote as a reminder to myself.

    If anyone has tips from personal experience on how to stay informed of world events without getting caught up in the negative spiral please share! This is my social
    Media, I have no other accounts because I couldn’t handle Facebook in my life anymore. It was the auria video contest that was the breaking point for me. I believe @richardyot was in that as well. And come to think of it, I have his book on my kindle that I started but didn’t finish- and the subject is exactly what I need to read today, so now I know what I’ll be doing on the bus (I mean that). So that may be my recommendation for step one- read Richard’s book about being creative and not putting off being creative. The stuff we see going on with politicians is a great excuse to get wrapped up too much (beyond just being informed of events) and avoiding and blocking creativity.

  • Well that's him finally announced he's gone. Impressive even to the end thinking that everyone around him is in the wrong.

  • @mrufino1 said:

    @Liquidmantis said:

    @mrufino1 said:
    Seems like the whole world is headed the same way sadly. It’s not a good scene in the US right now either. I have no problem with our current administration (don’t love them, don’t hate them) but the previous administration is still causing craziness that gets worse every day. I don’t belong to either party and frankly I’m sick of most politicians at this point. I’m also pretty sick of people who are being generally stupid and feel that everything is a conspiracy from every side, so they just refuse to follow any rules at all.

    Idiocracy has become a documentary (all around the world) and that is scary.

    On the plus side, I got into NYC early today and decided to walk from port authority to the theater I’m working at on 76th (about 45 blocks, 2.5 miles) since I had time. I was listening to the new Tears for Fears album
    on my walk, which is quite good.

    Then I found out our shows were cancelled due to broken air conditioning in the theater so I went the church where I work and spent 3 hours programming some new scenes and routing on the digico console.

    Why mention that? Because I’m getting too caught up in nonsense I can’t control, but I can control walking on a sunny (and hot!!) day and working on various musical tasks. I’m using this post as a reminder to myself to do more of that and less on YouTube following politicians being entitled and lawless.

    Thanks for reading…😁

    Please subscribe me to your TED talk newsletter. First time listener, instant long time follower.

    Ha! Thanks. It’s a rare moment of clarity for me. I hope this thread stays open so I can read what I wrote. It was really hard to stay away from it last night, but I’m going to keep reading what I wrote as a reminder to myself.

    If anyone has tips from personal experience on how to stay informed of world events without getting caught up in the negative spiral please share! This is my social
    Media, I have no other accounts because I couldn’t handle Facebook in my life anymore. It was the auria video contest that was the breaking point for me. I believe @richardyot was in that as well. And come to think of it, I have his book on my kindle that I started but didn’t finish- and the subject is exactly what I need to read today, so now I know what I’ll be doing on the bus (I mean that). So that may be my recommendation for step one- read Richard’s book about being creative and not putting off being creative. The stuff we see going on with politicians is a great excuse to get wrapped up too much (beyond just being informed of events) and avoiding and blocking creativity.

    Yes the Auria contest was a clusterf*ck of corruption, in the end they had to change the rules to disqualify all the cheaters :)

    I'm enjoying watching Boris' downfall though, it's been months in the making. He should have gone back in November after suggesting that anti-corruption rules should be changed to save his crony Owen Paterson (who had been caught in a lobbying scandal). Since then it's just been scandal after scandal, and he somehow managed to hang on until now. At least the conservative party turned on him in the end, unlike the US where partisan politics takes precedence over blatant corruption.

    And thanks for buying my book! I really hope you find it useful.

  • edited July 2022

    I’m an EU citizen and therefore an outsider. Anyway I can understand and share your excitement about his downfall. But I think the whole episode is a very sad thing. How could it happen that a man of such character was able to stay at the helm of a nation with such a great democratic tradition? It makes me realize how thin is the ice we are standing on. How endangered democracy is. Internet bubbles, fake news, lying politicians without decency. This is not only happening in the UK. Trump, Berlosconi, Le Pen, Victor Orbán, Kaczyński - the rise of the populists. This makes me shiver.

  • edited July 2022

    @krassmann said:
    I’m an EU citizen and therefore an outsider. Anyway I can understand and share your excitement about his downfall. But I think the whole episode is a very sad thing. How could it happen that a man of such character was able to stay at the helm of a nation with such a great democratic tradition? It makes me realize how thin is the ice we are standing on. How endangered democracy is. Internet bubbles, fake news, lying politicians without decency. This is not only happening in the UK. Trump, Berlosconi, Le Pen, Victor Orbán, Kaczyński - the rise of the populists. This makes me shiver.

    Boris Johnson was lawfully elected by voters, was he not? And when voters choose to elect a candidate, versus having a person installed, that’s a country’s democratic system at work. “Democracy” isn’t getting what YOU want, it’s what the majority of voters want.

  • edited July 2022

    I think the the thing that rankles with me most is that the "herd" had a perfectly good opportunity to end this mess weeks ago and didn't take it, it beggars belief that these politicians had the foreknowledge of his unsuitability to lead and ability to oust Boris in a perfectly ordered manner and yet choose to stand idly by whilst it all went to rat shit..

    All the while this stuff continues voter apathy and political fatigue are eating away at the UK voting populace, it's sad that there no longer seems a shred of integrity left in the very people that hold our fate as country in their hands..

  • @NeuM said:

    @krassmann said:
    I’m an EU citizen and therefore an outsider. Anyway I can understand and share your excitement about his downfall. But I think the whole episode is a very sad thing. How could it happen that a man of such character was able to stay at the helm of a nation with such a great democratic tradition? It makes me realize how thin is the ice we are standing on. How endangered democracy is. Internet bubbles, fake news, lying politicians without decency. This is not only happening in the UK. Trump, Berlosconi, Le Pen, Victor Orbán, Kaczyński - the rise of the populists. This makes me shiver.

    Boris Johnson was lawfully elected by voters, was he not? And when voters choose to elect a candidate, versus having a person installed, that’s a country’s democratic system at work. “Democracy” isn’t getting what YOU want, it’s what the majority of voters want.

    Actually, because of the esoteric first past the post system here, more people voted for left leaning parties than his in the last election, yet his party garnered the most seats… it’s not a presidential setup as we’re backwards and still have an unelected head of state.

  • @Krupa said:

    @NeuM said:

    @krassmann said:
    I’m an EU citizen and therefore an outsider. Anyway I can understand and share your excitement about his downfall. But I think the whole episode is a very sad thing. How could it happen that a man of such character was able to stay at the helm of a nation with such a great democratic tradition? It makes me realize how thin is the ice we are standing on. How endangered democracy is. Internet bubbles, fake news, lying politicians without decency. This is not only happening in the UK. Trump, Berlosconi, Le Pen, Victor Orbán, Kaczyński - the rise of the populists. This makes me shiver.

    Boris Johnson was lawfully elected by voters, was he not? And when voters choose to elect a candidate, versus having a person installed, that’s a country’s democratic system at work. “Democracy” isn’t getting what YOU want, it’s what the majority of voters want.

    Actually, because of the esoteric first past the post system here, more people voted for left leaning parties than his in the last election, yet his party garnered the most seats… it’s not a presidential setup as we’re backwards and still have an unelected head of state.

    OK, but he was still elected according to the rules, which I'm guessing have been the same rules for a very long time?

  • edited July 2022

    @NeuM said:

    @Krupa said:

    @NeuM said:

    @krassmann said:
    I’m an EU citizen and therefore an outsider. Anyway I can understand and share your excitement about his downfall. But I think the whole episode is a very sad thing. How could it happen that a man of such character was able to stay at the helm of a nation with such a great democratic tradition? It makes me realize how thin is the ice we are standing on. How endangered democracy is. Internet bubbles, fake news, lying politicians without decency. This is not only happening in the UK. Trump, Berlosconi, Le Pen, Victor Orbán, Kaczyński - the rise of the populists. This makes me shiver.

    Boris Johnson was lawfully elected by voters, was he not? And when voters choose to elect a candidate, versus having a person installed, that’s a country’s democratic system at work. “Democracy” isn’t getting what YOU want, it’s what the majority of voters want.

    Actually, because of the esoteric first past the post system here, more people voted for left leaning parties than his in the last election, yet his party garnered the most seats… it’s not a presidential setup as we’re backwards and still have an unelected head of state.

    OK, but he was still elected according to the rules, which I'm guessing have been the same rules for a very long time?

    Indeed

    Though he has since tried his utmost to avoid the scrutiny necessary for good governance, hence the ongoing clusterfuck.

  • edited July 2022

    @knewspeak said:
    They’ve created a government, a government of the deluded, by the deluded, for the ……, I think they’ve forgotten people have had enough of this sh#te.

    I’m afraid people will keep eating this shite. The turd has been rolled in glitter many times over but did not significantly change its content.

    The stuff that is needed would be considered too radical by most voters….and so it continues.

  • @Krupa said:

    @NeuM said:

    @Krupa said:

    @NeuM said:

    @krassmann said:
    I’m an EU citizen and therefore an outsider. Anyway I can understand and share your excitement about his downfall. But I think the whole episode is a very sad thing. How could it happen that a man of such character was able to stay at the helm of a nation with such a great democratic tradition? It makes me realize how thin is the ice we are standing on. How endangered democracy is. Internet bubbles, fake news, lying politicians without decency. This is not only happening in the UK. Trump, Berlosconi, Le Pen, Victor Orbán, Kaczyński - the rise of the populists. This makes me shiver.

    Boris Johnson was lawfully elected by voters, was he not? And when voters choose to elect a candidate, versus having a person installed, that’s a country’s democratic system at work. “Democracy” isn’t getting what YOU want, it’s what the majority of voters want.

    Actually, because of the esoteric first past the post system here, more people voted for left leaning parties than his in the last election, yet his party garnered the most seats… it’s not a presidential setup as we’re backwards and still have an unelected head of state.

    OK, but he was still elected according to the rules, which I'm guessing have been the same rules for a very long time?

    Indeed

    Though he has since tried his utmost to avoid the scrutiny necessary for good governance, hence the ongoing clusterfuck.

    I have nothing personally at stake in British politics, but I find the whole system very strange. ;)

  • @NeuM said:

    @Krupa said:

    @NeuM said:

    @krassmann said:
    I’m an EU citizen and therefore an outsider. Anyway I can understand and share your excitement about his downfall. But I think the whole episode is a very sad thing. How could it happen that a man of such character was able to stay at the helm of a nation with such a great democratic tradition? It makes me realize how thin is the ice we are standing on. How endangered democracy is. Internet bubbles, fake news, lying politicians without decency. This is not only happening in the UK. Trump, Berlosconi, Le Pen, Victor Orbán, Kaczyński - the rise of the populists. This makes me shiver.

    Boris Johnson was lawfully elected by voters, was he not? And when voters choose to elect a candidate, versus having a person installed, that’s a country’s democratic system at work. “Democracy” isn’t getting what YOU want, it’s what the majority of voters want.

    Actually, because of the esoteric first past the post system here, more people voted for left leaning parties than his in the last election, yet his party garnered the most seats… it’s not a presidential setup as we’re backwards and still have an unelected head of state.

    OK, but he was still elected according to the rules, which I'm guessing have been the same rules for a very long time?

    He was elected as a local MP not as Prime Minister. The Conservative party can basically change their leader whenever they like. The Queen is the one who appoints the Prime Minister.

  • @NeuM said:

    @Krupa said:

    @NeuM said:

    @Krupa said:

    @NeuM said:

    @krassmann said:
    I’m an EU citizen and therefore an outsider. Anyway I can understand and share your excitement about his downfall. But I think the whole episode is a very sad thing. How could it happen that a man of such character was able to stay at the helm of a nation with such a great democratic tradition? It makes me realize how thin is the ice we are standing on. How endangered democracy is. Internet bubbles, fake news, lying politicians without decency. This is not only happening in the UK. Trump, Berlosconi, Le Pen, Victor Orbán, Kaczyński - the rise of the populists. This makes me shiver.

    Boris Johnson was lawfully elected by voters, was he not? And when voters choose to elect a candidate, versus having a person installed, that’s a country’s democratic system at work. “Democracy” isn’t getting what YOU want, it’s what the majority of voters want.

    Actually, because of the esoteric first past the post system here, more people voted for left leaning parties than his in the last election, yet his party garnered the most seats… it’s not a presidential setup as we’re backwards and still have an unelected head of state.

    OK, but he was still elected according to the rules, which I'm guessing have been the same rules for a very long time?

    Indeed

    Though he has since tried his utmost to avoid the scrutiny necessary for good governance, hence the ongoing clusterfuck.

    I have nothing personally at stake in British politics, but I find the whole system very strange. ;)

    For sure, it’s close to medieval in many ways, I’m hoping for a leftist coalition that mandates a change to something more representative will help ease the pressures that have built up over the post industrial period. Maybe even a Parliament for England so that the tensions between the nations can also be eased.

  • @NeuM said:

    @Krupa said:

    @NeuM said:

    @Krupa said:

    @NeuM said:

    @krassmann said:
    I’m an EU citizen and therefore an outsider. Anyway I can understand and share your excitement about his downfall. But I think the whole episode is a very sad thing. How could it happen that a man of such character was able to stay at the helm of a nation with such a great democratic tradition? It makes me realize how thin is the ice we are standing on. How endangered democracy is. Internet bubbles, fake news, lying politicians without decency. This is not only happening in the UK. Trump, Berlosconi, Le Pen, Victor Orbán, Kaczyński - the rise of the populists. This makes me shiver.

    Boris Johnson was lawfully elected by voters, was he not? And when voters choose to elect a candidate, versus having a person installed, that’s a country’s democratic system at work. “Democracy” isn’t getting what YOU want, it’s what the majority of voters want.

    Actually, because of the esoteric first past the post system here, more people voted for left leaning parties than his in the last election, yet his party garnered the most seats… it’s not a presidential setup as we’re backwards and still have an unelected head of state.

    OK, but he was still elected according to the rules, which I'm guessing have been the same rules for a very long time?

    Indeed

    Though he has since tried his utmost to avoid the scrutiny necessary for good governance, hence the ongoing clusterfuck.

    I have nothing personally at stake in British politics, but I find the whole system very strange. ;)

    I think similarly with regard to your US Electoral College.

  • @krassmann said:
    I’m an EU citizen and therefore an outsider. Anyway I can understand and share your excitement about his downfall. But I think the whole episode is a very sad thing. How could it happen that a man of such character was able to stay at the helm of a nation with such a great democratic tradition? It makes me realize how thin is the ice we are standing on. How endangered democracy is. Internet bubbles, fake news, lying politicians without decency. This is not only happening in the UK. Trump, Berlosconi, Le Pen, Victor Orbán, Kaczyński - the rise of the populists. This makes me shiver.

    Same feeling here, it’s like history repeatedly throws us, en masse, egotistical leaders.

  • @FastGhost said:
    Ironically he seems to have forgotten what "leave" means.

    :)

  • @supadom said:

    @knewspeak said:
    They’ve created a government, a government of the deluded, by the deluded, for the ……, I think they’ve forgotten people have had enough of this sh#te.

    I’m afraid people will keep eating this shite. The turd has been rolled in glitter many times over but did not significantly change its content.

    The stuff that is needed would be considered too radical by most voters….and so it continues.

    I think they’re scared it could ‘upset the apple cart’ but with the current socio-economic mess, that’s what we have anyway and it’s making more people poorer day by day.

  • @knewspeak said:

    @NeuM said:

    @Krupa said:

    @NeuM said:

    @Krupa said:

    @NeuM said:

    @krassmann said:
    I’m an EU citizen and therefore an outsider. Anyway I can understand and share your excitement about his downfall. But I think the whole episode is a very sad thing. How could it happen that a man of such character was able to stay at the helm of a nation with such a great democratic tradition? It makes me realize how thin is the ice we are standing on. How endangered democracy is. Internet bubbles, fake news, lying politicians without decency. This is not only happening in the UK. Trump, Berlosconi, Le Pen, Victor Orbán, Kaczyński - the rise of the populists. This makes me shiver.

    Boris Johnson was lawfully elected by voters, was he not? And when voters choose to elect a candidate, versus having a person installed, that’s a country’s democratic system at work. “Democracy” isn’t getting what YOU want, it’s what the majority of voters want.

    Actually, because of the esoteric first past the post system here, more people voted for left leaning parties than his in the last election, yet his party garnered the most seats… it’s not a presidential setup as we’re backwards and still have an unelected head of state.

    OK, but he was still elected according to the rules, which I'm guessing have been the same rules for a very long time?

    Indeed

    Though he has since tried his utmost to avoid the scrutiny necessary for good governance, hence the ongoing clusterfuck.

    I have nothing personally at stake in British politics, but I find the whole system very strange. ;)

    I think similarly with regard to your US Electoral College.

    Things are the way they are for a reason. Even in England. :)

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