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Most Americans would agree … if they even know that it exists (a surprising number of people don’t know about the electoral college) … and those that defend it generally don’t believe in majority rule.
It is one of many (unfortunate) artifacts of a complex system designed to be agreeable to states that relied on slavery for their wealth.
It’s hardly esoteric. The candidate that gets the most votes in each seat gets elected.
In Europe, the only two countries that still use it for their main houses of government are us in the U.K. and that bastion of freedom Belarus… our other house is completely undemocratic in that it’s composed of hereditary peers and appointees chosen at will by those already in powerful positions in society…
Federal laws in the US are built on our Constitution and Bill of Rights. The rights of the individual are preeminent in the US, not the will of the masses, so when individual rights are an issue, they can be appealed up to the Supreme Court. In contrast, a direct democracy results in majority rules. Minority opinion and dissent from the majority opinion is largely irrelevant because the majority holds all the power.
Federal elections in the US are decided by the people in the individual States. And the Electoral College represents the sum of votes from the voters in the States. The so-called "popular vote" is reported in US elections, but it has never been a deciding factor, despite constant misrepresentation of its value by the media.
The system we have today stands because the Federal government exists as an agreement between the States, not an agreement between individuals. The US is a democratic republic (also has been called a "representative republic"), not a democracy.
And by the way, slavery still exists in other countries, not the US. And which country leads in this area? Why, it's also the biggest democracy in the world: https://worldpopulationreview.com/country-rankings/countries-that-still-have-slavery
No wonder people keep illegally crossing into the US to escape their dire conditions from all over the world. If the US was such a terrible place, people would be fleeing elsewhere.
Light relief
I found the music more compelling, than the rubbish he was talking, hopefully they’ll make this a permanent overdub for Tory drone’s.
Yakety Sax blaster is my hero
Leading the race to be the most 2022 thing ever, we have actor Hugh Grant to thank for Yakety Sax over Johnson's resignation speech.
Sounds nearly as arcane as our system, which is a structure that maintains the power structure of those in power and also for those in power behind the ‘scenes’. In effect the class structure.
That's an interesting comment considering the colonists rebelled against the British and formed their government as a rebuke of the monarchy.
You are missing my point. I have nothing against a conservative political opinion. Actually I think that in a true democracy all political opinions must be represented - even extreme ones as long as they stand on the ground of the constitution. Voters must have true choices. But to make a good choice, the people need to be well informed. I think it is a threat to democracy if a politician is spreading fake news, „alternative facts“, launching destructive lies and narratives that lead people into an alternate reality. There had been times when politicians stepped down when they were caught lying but these times are over.
The other point is populism. We are living in a complex world. People are overwhelmed by this complexity and are easy victims for populists that promise simple solutions but there virtually are no simple solutions. The populists use that to catch voters although they know that their solutions are not going to work out. That is unfair to competitors who stand for serious politics. The politicians I named are all rather right wing but there are also left wing populists and they are not better in any way but none of them made it into government.
Isn’t throwing off the yoke of oppressors the stated aim of every revolutionary movement? I’m not sure it ever works out the way they may have hoped for…
Considering Americans surpassed the wealth and influence of their former oppressors, I'm not sure how that applies.
I don't think I'm the first to point this out, but all politicians lie. Whether the lie is a benign one or a harmful one makes no difference. If a leader cannot communicate a simple, clear story their population can support, they have no business leading.
Well, now the people there have little choice but to bounce between two parties that between them maintain a powerful elite, while tempting the masses into compliance with the promise that one day, with hard work and a ‘little’ luck, they, or their offspring may one day join those elites… it’s pretty thin gruel for most and that’s reflected in the despair that exists in much of the country. Just because life is better in some ways there than in neighbouring countries doesn’t mean it’s anywhere near perfect, we can always strive to be better. I for sure would never move to the USA, too many guns and crazy people for my taste, ymmv though and no offence meant to anyone, there’s much to love about the place, its geography, and from my experience its people most of all 😁
I'm no fan of the "two party system" either. Both major parties have colluded in every State to exclude the smaller political parties every chance they get.
And the image of the US which is communicated to other countries is also shaded to appeal to local tastes and biases. I find that to be a consistent behavior across the world. Unless the media appeals to the local population they won't get viewers/consumers.
Exactly, that’s why I’ve long favoured a system such as PR which allows those smaller parties and constituencies a voice and some chance of power. Not only does it act as a release valve, it enables change to be progressive and constant which is essential to renewing democracy. It’s still not perfect, but it’s closer…
I'll agree with your main point, insofar that people who feel they're not being heard, are deliberately ignored or are punished for their views tend to not react well to that kind of treatment.
Talking petty economics, when the bottom 25-30% starts living on the edge of poverty it’s when people will start paying attention. Folks often say to tax the rich but I don’t think there’s enough rich to cover what’s needed. I think the unthinkable move to properly tax corporations that do business in the uk will be required in order to restore the social system. Although I can’t see which of the biggest party would put that on their manifesto. Labour are so far right that it is begging for some populist party to emerge.
Post Brexit/Pandemic/Ukraine time seems like the most fertile ground for that kind of stuff.
Currently I’m being told by my daughter’s school that she’ll be getting a free recorder, to keep, for her music lessons. It follows with information about the upcoming fundraiser to pay for the instruments, aka parents paying for it. It’s fucking ridiculous. Something’s gotta change.
It’s gratifying to find common ground with you on something besides apps 😁
When my head is exploding from watching the political trainwreckage of our planet, I watch Russell Brand's YouTube channel. Highly recommended; a daily dose of a perfect mixture of humor (sorry about the American spelling), insight and wisdom all focused on the insanity of it all.
Never apologize for using Americanized spellings... they're usually more efficient.
Yes even in education via ‘pressured’ donations, of doing the best for your children and peer ridicule is bringing privatisation to the education system. Building a compassionate, caring system is looked upon by so called ‘moderate’ political figures as being too radical, it’s really quite ridiculous, because most detractors, often espouse the very same values of Jesus Christ, love and compassion to one another.
Can’t wait to see the next ERG puppet trying to convince the walking dead that all is well...
Yes, I deletd my Facebook account right after that time. I was a beneficiary of them throwing out the “fan voting” results as I wound up getting one of the prize packages. And the guy that one was really nice, he and I corresponded for a period of time. I think I remember that your video had animation in it, is that correct?
And you’re welcome on the book, I’m going to continue reading on the bus in about an hour when I head into the city.
Indeed Johnson was just a puppet, they knew he could get them into power, they just thought they could control him, him, the ‘king of the world’
I’ve never seen it, so I’ll try that out as well.
As a general statement, I am saddened that there are so few “public servants” in office. Even though I probably lean towards more liberal opinions on a lot of things, I don’t discount that others have different views. But the lying, the outright dismissal and demonization of others with different views, bullying, the use of religion as a political tool, and the manipulation of rules and people, and probably many other similar things is distressing. And I’m sure money and power (to deflect from the aforementioned tactics) are the heart of all of it.
But, I’m still going to try to do the things I believe are part of being a good person in my own life rather than getting caught up in all of the nonsense that is being put out there.
No animation in mine, it was a pretty basic video. But the guy who won (Bob Amser) made a terrific video, he deserved it.
I disagree. There is a difference if a politician lied about that he didn’t cheat on his wife or that he didn’t take the 300k donation. And the other story is that sometimes a good leader has to make unpopular decisions for a good reason that needs a lot of expertise to understand. I think Churchill‘s position to oppose the appeasement wasn‘t popular at the time but nonetheless he was right.
Looks like you misunderstood. The point was "all politicians lie", not the severity of the lie.