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The iPad does the same for me in general. I prefer it for ideation. I just don't get what I could gain from Note over other iPad apps. Not that the Ableton device presets or devices in Note are bad, but I have a so much richer palette of AUv3s to flesh out ideas with, I think I'd get bored with the stuff in Note after a couple of tracks.
The thing is I want to do most of the sound design on the iPad because it's more inspiring, but Note would just be good enough for a rough sketch and kinda expects the bulk of that process to be done in Ableton on a desktop, that's the problem.
Well Note is a sketchpad, it’s in the name. 😂
I don’t think you’re the intended user.
it has midi in and supportssplit sreen, it is designed to work with other ios music apps
I’m in the camp where I think Note is a beautiful little app and I love the results I get from it, and I think the integration with Live is great. But I’m invested in Logic and only have Live Lite on my Mac, and for now I’m sticking with Logic. So I guess in the end I’m a little jealous that this great workflow is kind of outside my chosen sphere. But I get it, it is a companion app for Live, a sharp tool that serves a limited purpose very well.
I’d love it if it could load plugins and had more tracks/scenes etc, but it would break that nice Note->Live workflow that works so effortlessly today. The promise of Note is that whatever you do in that app, it’ll open right up in Live and sound just the same. Logic iPad -> Logic Mac can only make that promise if you stick to built-in plugins and even then it can be a bit fraught.
I don't think anyone here is to be honest, not if you use the ipad for music production. It's more like for Ableton users who happen to have iPhones and don't pre-produce on iPads really.
i love the split screen support! wish AUM had that.
the midi input is for any device (primary midi controllers as to first concern) with midi output regardless of it being iOS or not.
i wouldn't mind seeing Note with midi output
You can for example use any midi-auv3 in Standalone drambo to send to Note and have them side by side in split screen. Pretty cool, although I merely tried if it works and didn't do that much with it.
Fyi from Matt...
Unfortunately the thebeatcommunity.com link is dead and I can't find any other information. Anyone have a live link?
Update the app, if you haven't yet, and go to the help menu. There's a new entry for joining the beta
I just searched ableton note beta. Its wide open for anyone that didn’t know
Oh man, very nice additions coming up
I'm not usually one for beta testing outside of one music app I do test on the regular, but I may join up this public beta test. I've been waiting for a MIDI editor for Note ever since I first bought it!
Great!
I have been using Note on my iPad a lot in conjunction with Live. Better than any drum machine/sampler I’ve ever owned… Even Drambo gets no love anymore.
Dham… no midi import…
But now you can add 3 ableton note widgets in the iOS 18 Lock Screen!
💯 to be useful it needs midi out from the app NOT via Ableton Live
midi out doesn't really fit the Note design since it supposed to be used as quick sketching tool for Ableton Live.
doesn't make business sense to fully open it up for use with another Ios music apps for 7 euro.
Also adding midi import files doesn't seem to fit the design IMO.
in what way does it make business sense?
I completely agree with you it’s always needed midi out to be useful.
There is no ‘supposed to be used’. We will use it however we like.
The idea that Ableton Note was the gateway drug to people buying Ableton Live turned out, as expected, not to be the case.
The business case is to make a 7 euro tool useful for everybody, including those who don’t care about Ableton Live. That means making it possible to get quick sketches you create in there out, via the app.
the business case is to make a quick note which can be finished in Ableton live. that's what it was literally designed to do.
its cool you can do other things with it. however, it's not the goal to make Ableton note fully integrate with your other iOS apps or sequence devices.
the main integration is Ableton live. maybe there is midi out at some point but it not a strong design point to the app itself.
In your opinion, which you are entitled to, but you are just one person, and I fundamentally disagree with you. A strong design point would be to make it more useful to more people without negatively affecting Ableton Live users. No need to go on and on about it. Happy to leave it here and agreed to disagree 🤝
and you are just one person also. the main design point is to integrate with Ableton live, if you can use for other purposes, its's all good.
ok, you can agree to disagree. all good.
that depends if you wanna just have a sketch/note, if you want to take it way further that's where your note will perfectly integrate into Ableton live via the cloud. It just opens up in Live, a beautiful thing indeed.
^ This
Unless you don’t have Ableton Live or Lite and have no interest in ever getting them. That’s the whole point of this part of the discussion. Being able to export midi = freedom.
I think folks are getting confused between "what makes sense for users" and "what makes sense for Ableton". While I agree that it would be great if Ableton Note offered better integration with other apps and ecosystems, I have to acknowledge that Ableton certainly, certainly designed and shipped Note to primarily be an adjunct to Ableton Live. The pricing and positioning doesn't make sense any other way. Ableton isn't here to make our lives better by losing money.
It'd be great if you could export MIDI (and use AUv3 plugins while we're wishing into a well), but expecting that to happen and just tuning out Ableton's clear motivations will lead, I think, to disappointment. Of course, if you have a PC or Mac, you can get Live Lite for free, and use that to export MIDI or stems or whatever from your Note projects.
This, indeed
Per my other comment, it's okay to want that, but don't hold your breath. If you're expressing that you have no interest in Ableton's flagship product, well, that greatly reduces your value to Ableton as a customer. If you want Ableton to produce a fully-fledged DAW for iOS, you'll need to be prepared to pay for it. That may sound mercenary, but that's the reality. Ableton has to focus on activities that will make them money, so they can continue to meet payroll and keep the lights on.
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I don't have access to Ableton's books, but they are almost certainly losing money on Note. I think it is a "loss leader", intended to drive revenue by directing consumers to their other products, and to reward their existing customers with functionality that extends to their mobile devices. Like I said, expecting them to treat it differently just because you wish they would, will probably lead to disappointment.
If you don't like what Note is, use a different product instead of getting mad about what Note isn't. BAM, Drambo, Nodes, and others all cover similar ground and meet your requirements for interoperability.