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I think midi import will take it to a new level.. imagine importing and editing Lumbeat’s iBassist, Drums and other midi files.. and export to Live desktop.. Let’s see what LK has planned for us..
Do you use Ableton Live?
Have you read the Note info page at Ableton? https://www.ableton.com/en/note/
Ableton has been pretty explicit in its messaging that Note is intended as a companion to Live. That isn't one person's opinion.
I don't doubt that they are also happy to pick up some non-Live users, too.
If one's argument is "..... would make business sense....," I would respectfully suggest that Ableton knows tons more than any of us what development costs them and what revenue potential there is. They are in a much better position to judge what makes business sense.
One should not confuse "what I and many people want" with "what makes business sense". The numbers tend to be pretty radically different from what people imagine.
It wouldn't surprise me in the least if they do or don't add some features for non-Live users.
I guess you can get Live Lite 12 for free (You may get hooked doh), export your projects to Live and have access to your midi.. and more..
No one is begrudging you what you want. We all have things we want apps to do that would make us happy.
What we want as users is a different question from what is practical for a developer to implement and what their intention/goal is. Their perspective is worth understanding, too.
For me, the best part of them not implementing midi export/out, for example, is that it's useless for Notes intended purpose, and instead, they are implementing features that do support its intended purpose. If they waste their time implementing the things that a small (but mighty!) group of iOS music app users already have on all their other apps, then they will have missed the boat on supporting the actual group of target users for them...Ableton Live users or future Ableton Live users that they can convince to pay hundreds of dollars for a single license instead of 100 iOS users to make that same amount.
As a Live user, I'd much rather them focus on transferring songs directly between the Push 3 Standalone and Note running on my iPhone over WiFi. Or keep expanding the reach of the Native Ableton Devices within Note like being able to create a group of native modules and assigning parameters to the knobs in it, just like in Ableton Live and have that transfer right over. Or being able to chop a sample and assign it to a drum rack in Note. Or warping a sample...that then works right when you transfer it over to Ableton Live...or the Push Standalone.
This is the direction they will most likely head because it supports the direction of the app itself, clearly stated on their website. Everything else is counter to selling hundreds of thousands of dollars of desktop software and push standalone hardware. Nobody is making that money in the iOS music space 😂 Why would they even care about doing that?
So Ableton, don't listen to these AUv3 integrating/MIDI exporting/outting edge case people...just keep doing what you're doing. The rest of us can't wait for your vision to come into fruition! Make it the Auxy we Ableton users always wanted.
I apologize for being unhelpful and appreciate your considerate, thoughtful , compassionate reply.
Take a deep breath brother we’re all friends and @espiegel123 wasn’t condescending at all, I thought he was very measured and well meaning
Yo, don’t take it the wrong way but read what you wrote here. Sounds like the limitation is you… just enjoy Note for what it is and don’t get caught up in what it isn’t.
It’s quick and fun to get something worth keeping. Try putting that into Live Lite and finishing a banger before you dismiss it all.
Midi Out doesn’t really make sense for Ableton Note at this stage.
They are working on the Midi editor right now and my hope is that they will next work on a proper port of Simpler to Note. Maybe MidiOut is an easy addition since they’re working on ‘Midi’ but i am sure it would require a new Midi Out device class to be built, tracked and worked on—not an easy lift i think…but i don’t really know.
I truly believe that we need an easier way to chop up Samples so we don’t have to do it the way we currently have to.
As an Ableton Live user i rely on Midi Editing and Simpler for 75% of my workflow and while i would have voted for Simpler first, Midi Editing in the latest Beta has been really nice—sneak peak below:
Fwiw, MidiOut would be fine, but the overall goal of Note is to start a track on iOS and put the final polish on it in Live.
Midi out will require a host of additional functionality and i would rather they spend those resources on other features like TimeStretching, Bus Effects, support for Drift, Operator and all the native instruments and effects in Ableton Live in Note—even as IAP.
That makes more business sense to me as an Ableton customer since it reduces friction between the two platforms—and insures i can get my music done in either place.
Oh and since we’re dreaming, WiFi transfer of Note Projects to the Push3—or Ableton Cloud support on the Push3.
Not really sure what’s going on, but okie dokie.
There’s always Drambo ya know.
Best app on any platform 😉
Onward and upward as they say.
Well like i said Midi editing is being worked on now in the App. So who knows what they will unlock next.
Hit them up with your feature request.
Cheers.
I completely understand the frustration there because it would be super powerful having that. I believe the intent is to not take away from the full version of Live or Push as having Midi out on the app would get you round some limitations of Lite.
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100% all of this - as a Live user this would tempt me to buy the app, since it’s not that essential for my uses so far. As for MIDI out, I’ve got a heap of other apps to do all that, BAM, for example.
Any interoperability between the iOS system and Live system would be a great addition.
by the way you can create your own presets for drift and Drum rack in Ableton live and transfer to Ableton note now via the beta, its set up as a sort of hack but its works and is awesome!
and far from being condescending i thought the members showed very calm and measured responses. It not hard to see how this app is making great progress in the right places to follow the Ableton design goals.
and 7/8 euro is insane for what you get.
Wow, the hits keep coming!
And a discord channel! You guys can all cry about stuff it shouldn't have over there
How do you get this to work? I have tried several times and failed.
yep, it's a bit tricksy.
it only works on drift and drum rack
you can add two effects in the rack if they exist in note, however you don't have to add effects.
you need to have a rack within a rack currently, so you make you drift preset and maybe two effects in a rack, then put in another rack.
right click on the rack and choose - 'export ABL preset'
@drez i been wanting that compressor for ages!!!
Note just keeps getting better. Pretty soon it will be a Novel.
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Yeah this is a huge addition. For sound design as well!
so is it possible to trim or change the starting point of the playhead in an audio sample recorded directly into the app
not sure about trim but you can move the sample around, so it starts at a different point
different finger gestures move the sample different ways......use two fingers and spread them
Trying now!
cool thanks
Between the Live 12.1 beta, the Push 2.1 beta, and the Note 1.2 beta, I feel like I’m doing entirely too much beta testing for Ableton. But the new features are winners all around and every time I try to go back to the stable builds, I sorely miss the beta features.
Despite the inevitable grumbles about price points, missing features, and flawed priorities, Ableton has delivered quite a lot for those of us that dig their ecosystem.
Still waiting for Ableton Cloud on Push Standalone, though, and I would LOVE for them to mimic Note’s Capture MIDI workflow in Live. That little bit of visualization makes the feature way more predictable and takes it from nice-to-have to indispensable.
does this have midi output that’s can send out directly to another ios synth app ?
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Oh Eross, you slay me 😂
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