LoopMix from AudioModern .

ghost_forests

@Gavinski said:
Anyone else finding that the red line which controls loop length does not respond very well to touches in AUM, particularly at smaller window sizes?

This is an issue in Playbeat too

audiblevideo

@Synthi said:

@Gavinski said:

@telecharge said:

@Gavinski said:

@Synthi said:
Can each lane have a different length???

No

But you can set different loop regions (start/end points) for each lane. Jump to 4:56...

No you can't. Start and stop point is a global control. Other things like speed can be different for different lanes. Start / stop point cannot.

🥲 sadly not for me…. Would have been an incredible polyrhythm station…

Run multiple instances each with different lengths

Ah the beauty of AU as long as your processor can handle it

auxmux

@Foleslaw said:

@auxmux said:
I hope that folder sharing is resolved. Native file integration makes things so much easier.

It hasn’t been resolved in Playbeat as well. The dev told me it’s supposedly AUs limitation…. I don’t know, this to me is such a missed oportunity. A workaround or something alike would be great. Somehow there are AUs with their sample pools and it doesn’t seem to be a problem.
From what I see now you can’t even drag n drop files into this thing….

Koala has the best file integration, which they should follow here.

eross

how
do you import your own samples into the app? understand how to get there samples, but i don’t see the normal ios file folder routing.

Poppadocrock

Thanks @telecharge @Gavinski

Gavinski

@eross and @Pxlhg I'd strongly recommend watching my vid, which shows how to load your own samples.

Long story short, you don't need a shared sample folder. Press the load button at the top. On the right of the screen you will see 6 lanes for each track. If you have a preset loaded you will see track names, if not you will just (from memory) see something like - or... I where the name would be. Click on any of those. Files app will open and you can navigate to any file you want to add. There's more to it. Like I say, check out my vid. I spent almost an entire day going through the manual systematically and asking audiomodern questions before I figured all the quirks out.

Gavinski

Mmmm, just scrolling through that super fast in YT, I may have forgotten to cover that. I'll make a short on it.

JohnnyGoodyear

@Gavinski said:

I for one appreciate your quirk-figuring.

Gavinski

It won't matter anyway once drag and drop is added, which should 99% be happening very soon.

Gavinski

Pretty sure I did cover that file import thing though in auv3 so if someone notices where it is while watching please drop the time here, cheers

Gavinski

@JohnnyGoodyear said:
@Gavinski said:

I for one appreciate your quirk-figuring.

Thank you Sir Johnny!

Pxlhg

@Gavinski
The shared folder is a much faster way of working as you just drag and drop the files from there into any of the six slots on the right side, where as if you click on the plus sign on (one of) those slots and browse your files, it is a much more tedious and time consuming way. I did the latter at first but after I tried the shared folder I really preferred that. Hence my disappointment it doesn't work in AU and that also make the presets you have made, using the shared folder, useless as the app can't find the files. Quite annoying if you ask me and if it's not going to work in AU they should remove it all together not to fool anyone into doing pointless work.

Gavinski

@Pxlhg said:

@Gavinski
The shared folder is a much faster way of working as you just drag and drop the files from there into any of the six slots on the right side, where as if you click on the plus sign on (one of) those slots and browse your files, it is a much more tedious and time consuming way. I did the latter at first but after I tried the shared folder I really preferred that. Hence my disappointment it doesn't work in AU and that also make the presets you have made, using the shared folder, useless as the app can't find the files. Quite annoying if you ask me and if it's not going to work in AU they should remove it all together not to fool anyone into doing pointless work.

Totally agree. Audiomodern are under the impression it's not possible due to ios sandboxing, I don't know personally, I'm no dev. But yeah it is annoying. imo they should have waited til at least drag and drop was impkemented before releasing, but again I think there were business and other factors on their side....

But yeah, you and anyone else who is annoyed by these things should definitely contact them and make your feelings plain - only in that way is there hope that changes will happen, and quickly.

Dean made a preset pack for this which works in both au and standalone, as does the Audiomodern factory bank, so there are obviously workarounds. But yeah, there shouldn't ideally have to be workarounds

telecharge

@audiblevideo said:
Run multiple instances each with different lengths

Ah the beauty of AU as long as your processor can handle it

Yeah, that's another option. But you can mute the slices/steps you don't want for different lengths, use rearrange or offset to move them around in the lane, and adjust lane timing with the speed control (x1, x2, etc.).

So, the possibilities are there to get different lengths and polyrhythms.

[Deleted User]

@Gavinski said:
@Pxlhg said:

@Gavinski
The shared folder is a much faster way of working as you just drag and drop the files from there into any of the six slots on the right side, where as if you click on the plus sign on (one of) those slots and browse your files, it is a much more tedious and time consuming way. I did the latter at first but after I tried the shared folder I really preferred that. Hence my disappointment it doesn't work in AU and that also make the presets you have made, using the shared folder, useless as the app can't find the files. Quite annoying if you ask me and if it's not going to work in AU they should remove it all together not to fool anyone into doing pointless work.

Totally agree. Audiomodern are under the impression it's not possible due to ios sandboxing, I don't know personally, I'm no dev. But yeah it is annoying. imo they should have waited til at least drag and drop was impkemented before releasing, but again I think there were business and other factors on their side....

The laborious process of sample loading, and the app not reloading the previous session in standalone were my biggest gripes in Playbeat - so much so I stopped using the app. I never bought the new v2 or v3 versions, but I'd expected them to have fixed these issues (surely the whole point of the apps are to quickly generate new content, and be fun to use?).

But Loopmix seems to suffer from the same usability (for me anyway) gripes - a blank project opened in standalone (though it saves the previous session perfectly in AUM), and tediously slow loading in of user samples.

Unlike Playbeat it won't stop me using the app, but it could be a lot more user-friendly with a few tweaks.

eross

@Gavinski said:
@eross and @Pxlhg I'd strongly recommend watching my vid, which shows how to load your own samples.

Long story short, you don't need a shared sample folder. Press the load button at the top. On the right of the screen you will see 6 lanes for each track. If you have a preset loaded you will see track names, if not you will just (from memory) see something like - or... I where the name would be. Click on any of those. Files app will open and you can navigate to any file you want to add. There's more to it. Like I say, check out my vid. I spent almost an entire day going through the manual systematically and asking audiomodern questions before I figured all the quirks out.

aghh i found it now. awesome. thanks guys

_ki

@Pxlhg @Gavinski Regarding shared sample folder between standalone and AUv3

Samu hinted the technical solution used in other AUv3 several posts ago in this thread, maybe try to comunicate that to the AudioModern devs:

@Samu said:

@Gavinski said:
Added a sample to the shared sample folder .But it doesn't show up in the shared samples folder in the auv3 in aum, only in standalone. Anyone else?

That is most likely due to iOS/iPadOS sandboxing...

It can be worked around (requires iOS13+) with something called 'Security Scoped URLs'.
(ie. the developer uses the Security Scoped URLs to access the folder/files from the AUv3).

When using those the AUv3 will get direct access to the same folder visible in the Files.app as the stand-alone app.
(This something that is already in place for a few apps I do beta for).

The only gotcha is that on 'older' iOS/iPadOS versions (ie. <iOS14) the user has on the first AUv3 launch select the apps folder using the document picker (only once as it's a permission) while on newer version this is 'transparent' and the user has to do nothing, it just works.

Ozzy57

I too am really disappointed that the “Shared Folder” in an AUV3 instance of Loopmix isn’t visible/accessible, please Audiomodern, this is such a killer app let down by this one anomaly.

Gavinski

Can’t remember if I passed that on, will do, thanks Ki!

@_ki said:
@Pxlhg @Gavinski Regarding shared sample folder between standalone and AUv3

Samu hinted the technical solution used in other AUv3 several posts ago in this thread, maybe try to comunicate that to the AudioModern devs:

@Samu said:

@Gavinski said:
Added a sample to the shared sample folder .But it doesn't show up in the shared samples folder in the auv3 in aum, only in standalone. Anyone else?

That is most likely due to iOS/iPadOS sandboxing...

It can be worked around (requires iOS13+) with something called 'Security Scoped URLs'.
(ie. the developer uses the Security Scoped URLs to access the folder/files from the AUv3).

When using those the AUv3 will get direct access to the same folder visible in the Files.app as the stand-alone app.
(This something that is already in place for a few apps I do beta for).

The only gotcha is that on 'older' iOS/iPadOS versions (ie. <iOS14) the user has on the first AUv3 launch select the apps folder using the document picker (only once as it's a permission) while on newer version this is 'transparent' and the user has to do nothing, it just works.

Schmotown

This app is more fun than a barrel of Elons. Every morning I start with a blank slate, set it to “poly”, load all six lanes with loops and samples somewhat randomly, and let it rip. A few clicks of the big red button and there’s something amazing coming through the headphones.

BTW, Loopmix has been rock solid as a plugin in Zenbeats which is the only DAW I’ve tried it with so far.

auxmux

@Gavinski said:
Can’t remember if I passed that on, will do, thanks Ki!

@_ki said:
@Pxlhg @Gavinski Regarding shared sample folder between standalone and AUv3

Samu hinted the technical solution used in other AUv3 several posts ago in this thread, maybe try to comunicate that to the AudioModern devs:

@Samu said:

@Gavinski said:
Added a sample to the shared sample folder .But it doesn't show up in the shared samples folder in the auv3 in aum, only in standalone. Anyone else?

That is most likely due to iOS/iPadOS sandboxing...

It can be worked around (requires iOS13+) with something called 'Security Scoped URLs'.
(ie. the developer uses the Security Scoped URLs to access the folder/files from the AUv3).

When using those the AUv3 will get direct access to the same folder visible in the Files.app as the stand-alone app.
(This something that is already in place for a few apps I do beta for).

The only gotcha is that on 'older' iOS/iPadOS versions (ie. <iOS14) the user has on the first AUv3 launch select the apps folder using the document picker (only once as it's a permission) while on newer version this is 'transparent' and the user has to do nothing, it just works.

@Gavinski Koala and Sitala have the best implementation of this, if you speak to Audiomodern.

Gavinski

Will add that info, thnx auxmux

@auxmux said:

@Gavinski said:
Can’t remember if I passed that on, will do, thanks Ki!

@_ki said:
@Pxlhg @Gavinski Regarding shared sample folder between standalone and AUv3

Samu hinted the technical solution used in other AUv3 several posts ago in this thread, maybe try to comunicate that to the AudioModern devs:

@Samu said:

@Gavinski said:
Added a sample to the shared sample folder .But it doesn't show up in the shared samples folder in the auv3 in aum, only in standalone. Anyone else?

That is most likely due to iOS/iPadOS sandboxing...

It can be worked around (requires iOS13+) with something called 'Security Scoped URLs'.
(ie. the developer uses the Security Scoped URLs to access the folder/files from the AUv3).

When using those the AUv3 will get direct access to the same folder visible in the Files.app as the stand-alone app.
(This something that is already in place for a few apps I do beta for).

The only gotcha is that on 'older' iOS/iPadOS versions (ie. <iOS14) the user has on the first AUv3 launch select the apps folder using the document picker (only once as it's a permission) while on newer version this is 'transparent' and the user has to do nothing, it just works.

@Gavinski Koala and Sitala have the best implementation of this, if you speak to Audiomodern.

FastGhost

@Pxlhg said:
where as if you click on the plus sign on (one of) those slots and browse your files, it is a much more tedious and time consuming way.

The biggest issue I have with this app is the sample loading, as tapping that + button doesn't take you to the last folder you loaded a sample from, but somewhere else entirely. Mine appears to be stuck defaulting to a folder many layers deep and miles away from my samples folder, so loading a new sample is roughly 400 taps in the Files dialog every time.

Aside from that gripe, I really like this app.

RajahP

Updated..

cokomairena

craftycurate

@cokomairena said:

This really needs to be added to Chordjam as well - at the moment the "presets" at the bottom are global and not preset specific which renders them pretty useless. Makes sense to save those quick recall slots for a particular chordjam setup e.g. for a live rig, and to be able to load up a different set of quick recall presets for a different Chordjam setup but this isn't possible at the moment AFAIK.

ALB

@cokomairena said:

So happy about this - you can now sequence it and not lose your work.

Gavinski

@FastGhost said:

@Pxlhg said:
where as if you click on the plus sign on (one of) those slots and browse your files, it is a much more tedious and time consuming way.

The biggest issue I have with this app is the sample loading, as tapping that + button doesn't take you to the last folder you loaded a sample from, but somewhere else entirely. Mine appears to be stuck defaulting to a folder many layers deep and miles away from my samples folder, so loading a new sample is roughly 400 taps in the Files dialog every time.

Aside from that gripe, I really like this app.

That's weird. In auv3, the only way I ever and will ever use the app, it always opens on the last folder I used to import, so6it is a very painless process loading samples that way

anickt

@FastGhost said:

@Pxlhg said:
where as if you click on the plus sign on (one of) those slots and browse your files, it is a much more tedious and time consuming way.

The biggest issue I have with this app is the sample loading, as tapping that + button doesn't take you to the last folder you loaded a sample from, but somewhere else entirely. Mine appears to be stuck defaulting to a folder many layers deep and miles away from my samples folder, so loading a new sample is roughly 400 taps in the Files dialog every time.

Aside from that gripe, I really like this app.

Make your sample folder a Favorite in Files

Gavinski

Yep - that is a pretty easy solution.

@anickt said:

@FastGhost said:

@Pxlhg said:
where as if you click on the plus sign on (one of) those slots and browse your files, it is a much more tedious and time consuming way.

The biggest issue I have with this app is the sample loading, as tapping that + button doesn't take you to the last folder you loaded a sample from, but somewhere else entirely. Mine appears to be stuck defaulting to a folder many layers deep and miles away from my samples folder, so loading a new sample is roughly 400 taps in the Files dialog every time.

Aside from that gripe, I really like this app.

Make your sample folder a Favorite in Files