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Is it possible we are living in a simulation?
Just hear me out.
The recent talk on AudioBus on AI has me wondering. For years I thought it was a crazy idea but AI is getting a lot smarter and it appears on the surface that general AI is just around the corner.
If you extrapolate from that then you can imagine in a 100 years or so AI has got so advanced that we could be permanently hooked up to it and we wouldn't be able to differentiate the visual/audio/motion etc.. signals from what we think are real life.
And maybe that's already happened.
For me it's less far fetched than I had previously thought it was.
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Which pill would you like, red or blue?
*taking the red pill
You seem to be still assuming that "you" would still have a body/brain of a person and your brain is hooked into a simulation like in The Matrix. A different sort of simulation would just be that our entire universe has been programmed, is entirely virtual, including humans and everything else. So "you" would be literally a virtual being, no atoms at all, just exist inside a computer as a form of artificial intelligence.
Of course, your original question was: Is this possible? The answer to that might well be different, than: Is this likely? Or: Is this what is actually the case? It's fun to speculate and all, but when you start to assert that some wild speculations are "probably true" because you can imagine them, then in my opinion you're heading off toward wackytown. . . .
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There must be at least one universe in the multiverse where it is true. The only question for now is whether or not this is one of them.
This is going to sound crazy, but from a pure logic standpoint, it's far more likely that we are than that we aren't.
On the other hand, from our perspective it doesn't matter either way.
The why files did a episode on the subject. Great channel.
Pretty sure I would dispute any conception of "logic" that established such a thing; our understanding of logic and probability is itself a subject of dispute. It's easy to get caught up in "logical" justifications for things, e.g., the ontological argument has delighted and exercised philosophers for several millenia, and purports to establish the existence of "God", purely as a matter of logic: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ontological_argument To most people nowadays, it just seems silly, but many people in the past, including first rate thinkers, have believed it a valid argument with true conclusion. But words are slippery things.
Exactly. Precisely why I would say we shouldn't even bother thinking about this stuff.
Why not? If nobody ever thought about things that seemed illogical to think about, we'd still be living in caves.
yes
I guess then I'm not sure what you mean by "from our perspective it doesn't matter either way." Definitely, for any questions or imaginings of technological advancement, these were things where it did matter which way they did turn out.
It sound like you now believe in God.
All I meant is this is reality for us, whether or not it's a simulated reality.
The same could be said about gravity. Just because gravity is a reality (or simulated reality ? 🧐) doesn't mean it's unfruitful to think and speculate about. There is much to gain by constantly questioning and re-questioning the nature of it.
Plus, it's fun.
i think there are many layers to our existence / consciousness. my experiences with psychedelics have proven to me that there is much more than meets the eye, we just cant comprehend it / see it at any given moment.
No, it's not possible.
Hi,
Yes it’s possible we’re living in a simulation. Here’s a ~5min vid about how observing reality changes it -
I know it’s the preferred theory of both Elon Musk and Scott Adams, but the human brain is a complex organ that helps us interpret and frame reality in order to keep us alive long enough to reproduce. That’s it. That’s the purpose of life.
Gotcha. We are on somewhat different wavelengths. I would say that gravity is a scientific concept,it figures in physical laws and measures of it are used in countless scientific calculations, is immensely important concept in our lives.
Whether or not our entire reality in itself is a simulation or is somehow primary is different. Without more, adopting the idea that our entire universe is a simulation doesn't necessitate changing anything for someone who formerly believed it to be primary. It's kind of like switching from atheism to the generic idea that there exists some "God" who created the universe. Without more, (e.g., adopting some specific religion with religious dogma) it makes no difference either way.
Yeah, I agree, people have fun talking about stuff like this.
Partly b/c it seems somehow correlated with believing (imagined/invented) conspiracy theories, I usually try to avoid getting sucked in. So, to be consistent, I should probably sign off here. 
It is now. But it wasn't always. There are many things we now take as scientific realities that were once considered mystical and those who dared to explore them rationally ridiculed or persecuted. There are many things we thought we understood fully and have since learned need to be re-explained. There are countless things that were once considered fundamentally insurmountable that we now routinely overcome. That only becomes possible when people challenge fundamental "reality".
I don't believe we can draw an arbitrary line demarcating what is primary and scientific. That line is shifting all the time. I suppose some people become uncomfortable when things they believe are settled are challenged. Not me. I get excited.
How to change the channel?
Whatever it is.
Hope its not as grim. As Dark ( Series )
Although going back to the 80s with say Drambo.
Could potentially spawn AI ( as a side effect )
If we are living in a simulation, where is the simulation housed?
the cloud
And where is the cloud housed?
The same space the universe is? Inside a black hole?
Some massive industial complex in Slough
The universe is inside a black hole?
Truly a dystopian nightmare.