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OT, but interesting read.
https://futurism.com/blake-lemoine-google-interview
42 was the random seed that engineered this simulation?
i think physicists are only one who can give definitive answer to this question by finding and proving glitches in simulation (as developer i know every complex system has bugd, glitches
)
You won’t get answer from philosophers, mystics, shamans, religious ppl and similiar.. if there is proof, then most likely it is hidden in sub atomic scale and/or eventually inside theory ofquantum gravity (which we still don’t have) ..
my candidates where we shoukd search for such bugs/glitches:
Does it make any sense to even try ? It depends. If answer is no, then it would be jzst endless wasting of time/resources. I’m even not sure if it is posdible to prove “no” - that’s why i tend to gravitate to opinion it’s pseudoscience (every scientific theory must be falsifiable)
If answer is yes but it changes nothing on our existence - then it may have very negative impact to mental state of many ppl and societies in general.
If we can leverage such proof for our benefit (like use ot to obtaining infinite free energy, or other things beyond the limits if current reality) then it may be to try.
It may also mean end for us in case that main purpose of this simulation is to find proof if virtual life whuch evolved innit is capable of find it exists in simulation 😂 . So, if “they” get answer, no reason vo continue running simulation 🤣
So in general to me looks better to not to try find out - looks like it has more disadvantages or potential bad outcomes than good ones.
Some questions should remain unaswered
@dendy: a friend of mine took the view that our simulation has been reset countless times, and that it was this which accounted for her sometime sense of ‘all this has happened before and will again.’ When the sim reaches up, or down, sufficiently far to discover the backstage, realises where we live is just scenery on a backlot, peeps behind the curtain, discovers an off switch… then it is time to hit the reset.
That would be the plot of The Matrix Reloaded (see: The Architect).
that’s known idea, i think i readed it in some scifi book way before first matrix was made :-)) whole matrix is just extract of ideas publised in scifi books way before wachovski bros even got idea to mak such movie :-))
not many people know but basically father of idea we the world is just simulation was P.K. Dick (he meant it literally, no just as plot for some his scifi book, he has serious speach where he tried to tell people it is fact)
his speach from 1977, people were compleely blown off back then, it was completely new idea and most of people thought he went completely out of mind…
https://youtube.com/shorts/FNwepAsqv-c
Loosely related - though mostly a piss take of Andrew Tate, something I wholeheartedly encourage:
jfc tate .. this guy is incredible clown
@dendy: in fairness, PKD was completely out of his mind, as well as being a stone cold genius. Not to mention a very serious speed freak:
https://www.publishersweekly.com/pw/by-topic/industry-news/tip-sheet/article/70857-was-philip-k-dick-a-madman-or-a-mystic.html
Doesn’t mean he was wrong about the whole simulation thing though, obviously…
madness is required to break the surface.
If you see a picture where someone appeared to morph into a cat or there be cat feature things that show up. Not only twice in a picture
but twice again in a different picture ( 7 years later )
Without filters and effects.
You would know reality isnt quite how many see reality.
Scientists obviously dont either.
Otherwise they wouldnt bother with things like Cern etc.
are they making cat people at CERN?
yeah he was both madman and genius, absolutely no doubt about that 🤣
But what is really madness .. it’s trully complicated, people tend to mark with stamp “insane” other people just because they often see different realities than majority.. it may be (most likely it is) just cobstruct of their mind - but what if not ? Or isn’t everything really just construct of our minds ?
Somebody said there is very thin border betweer insanity and geniality. And people whi live near this border often cross to both sides.
Having philosophical mood today 😂
Dont know much about Cern.
I guess its just kind of weird.
I am definitely a fan of the thin border between madness and geniality.
In some sense it doesn't matter if we're living in a simulation. Our "reality" is on the verge of becoming indistinguishable from simulated reality in huge ways.
AI can now generate text, images, sound, and video that are becoming virtually indistinguishable from the real thing. We're approaching having so much of such content that it'll become next to impossible to establish what is real beyond what we directly observe with our own senses in our immediate vicinity.
Given that our perception of the world beyond our immediate reach is virtually all acquired through media, and that media is certain to become saturated with simulated realities, we are effectively heading toward living in a simulated reality, or more accurately infinite simulated realities, for most intents and purposes.
There is nothing that we can do to about this. The technology is advancing too fast for us to prevent it.
Other secure ways to communicate can be devised. But that only guarantees reality to the extent that the chain of "truth" can be protected back to the source - someone who has observed it with their own senses and passed that on to others directly through their own senses. The only way to protect that chain of evidence will be by directly experienced communication one person to another.
We could be engineering ourselves into the need to retreat back to a point somewhere before the introduction of the printing press.
You are all wrong: the simulation is living in us.
i would be very careful with believing in what you see :-) Our brain is lying to us literally nonstop, we often don't see things which are before us and see things which aren't there at all
brain runs for you simulation/model of outside world which is up to 100ms behind “now” and just updates this model based on relatively thin data stream from sensory inputs, which are unfurtunaltelly very noisy (especially from eyes). What you “see” is lot more based on what brain “thinks” you should see than what comes from eyes.
This is one of reasons why all kinds of optical illusions works so well.
This is not some abstract philosophy - it is literally how brain works. There is simple example how to verify this statement.
Stand still and watch something on horizont. Hills, buildings, whatever. Now start moving rapindly eyes up/down, left/right - do ypu see things on hirizont jumping around ? You should see, cause your eyes are literally pointing rapidly in completely different podition.
But no, hills/buildings/whatever you watch are still.
Additionally, when you move eyes very fast from extreme left to extreme right position you can see that image at some moments like jumps to nev positon - but it is not smooth movement, it’s like in one second you see this and it onther second it jumps .. even through eyes movement is continuous smooth.
It’s not because brain “image stabilisation” of realtime feed from eyes.
It’s because it actually runs for you “simulation” what you see and in it’s data about relation of those objects is stored that they are fixed to earth surface so there is no reason they should jump around just because image feed from eyes is jumping around
That’s it. We literally live in simulated model of reality around us, which is built on very unreliable data and lot of assumptions, approximations and guesses 🤣
Agreed. But it's the best we got, and a damn sight better than the internet or news.
Too much brain talk here. Cognition is embodied. We're not spirits in a flesh suit! When you get old, or ill, this will become obvious, if it's not already. Better to get wise to the fact sooner rather than later.
this is exactly what i was talking about when i mentioned we don't see thinks which are there
)) thanks.
All very true, but it doesn’t have to be completely accurate, just accurate enough for symbiosis.
We do indeed but the particles and energy, perhaps even the information we contain may not be destroyed, just recycled, I would argue the very nature of existence.
@Gavinski : think you just gave me the title of my next thing: ‘Spirits in a flesh suit’
Not a great video - I saw all the passes and the gorilla.
Well done, you are clearly the exception that proves the rule. If most people have ever previously been exposed to the test they will also see through it. The first time I saw it (whilst at Hendon Police College, during my basic training, a different version of the same idea, gorilla walking around a basketball game) I did fall for it, as did my whole class.
If only I had been as switched on as you are! With powers of observation like that, you are clearly a loss to the world of law enforcement
This is not that simple.. there is serious theory (existing for decades, this theory makes lot of prediction and MANY of those predictions were confirmed by experiment). It's made by Stuard Hameroff and Roger Penrose and it's called "Orchestrated objective reduction" - in nutshell it proposes that consciousness in brain is created by quantum processes inside neuron's microtubules.. This may have huge impact on how we think about consciousness. One of interpretations is that brain is more just "interface" and through this interface some deeper "protoconsciousness" which is property of space itself emerges through quantum processes in brain.
Which means yes, if interface is broken, it is more complicated to emerge and control physical body, but that doesn't mean that consciousness is "product" of brain. It exists outside of brain, it uses brain just as interface.
Another result of this theory is that consciousness should be able to emerge in any system with enough complexity on relatively small space, with structure capable to be affected by quantum processes (decoherence, entanglement)
For now it's mostly on the edge of science (and some proponets call it pseudoscience, but hameroff/penroses are holding very strictly stientific approach and are trying to target all criticism with facts) - as i said - quite a lot of predictions they made during years they developed theory were later confirmed in laboratory, so.. Sir Roger Penrose isn't random dude anyway, he is who developed theory around black holes together with Stephen Hawking.
then try this