Is it possible we are living in a simulation?

cyberheater

@u0421793 said:
Red Dwarf • season 5 episode 6 • Back to Reality

A blatant clue…

SevenSystems

@HotStrange said:
Also makes me think of time travel. If it does exist in the future, that means is also exists now since someone would be able to travel here.

I definitely think it’s possible. And it’s fun to ponder on.

Time travel into the future (i.e., what most people mean by this: "I myself want to slow down my speed through time so that I perceive the rest of the universe as having travelled into the future") is trivial and already possible with current technology. It's just ridiculously expensive if you want to slow down your pace through time significantly, so nobody does it 😄

(for it to be practical though, you'd need nuclear propulsion systems, which are currently prohibited I think due to nuclear test ban treaties or something...)

dendy

@SevenSystems said:
(for it to be practical though, you'd need nuclear propulsion systems, which are currently prohibited I think due to nuclear test ban treaties or something...)

https://www.nasa.gov/press-release/nasa-darpa-will-test-nuclear-engine-for-future-mars-missions/

ExAsperis99

Another question:
Is it possible we are all living in a freshman dorm common room?

ervin

The 2022 sci-fi novel Sea of Tranquility by Emily St. John Mandel takes an interesting look at the simulation question. Worth reading it, especially if you (like me) weren't already aware that women tend to write some of the most interesting new sci-fi books these days. 👍

sigma79

All data is probably collected at light speed.

I guess we just have to think if we have freewill to determine if the matrix controller merely monitors or directly controls us.

sigma79

It might be that its collected at sound speed so listener gains a truer picture of life.

What would life and the picture be if we just viewed something which could be viewed anyway but with no soul?

If there were a choice of gaining a picture of reality with either sound and no picture or picture and muted sound.

I guess if we went through a blackhole.

It would be easier ( technology wise ) To capture the picture via sound waves interacting with any technology.

This is madness because I actually messaged a nanotech company with some weird question about their Vanta black paint.

Just to be schooled at gcse level.

With the usual. Sound is just light slowed down. To be told in space. Is gases etc of objects. That make sound audiable.

Not that it meant anything lol.

sigma79

lol.

I wernt going to post but decided to post for the wtf lol.

ExAsperis99

@ervin said:
The 2022 sci-fi novel Sea of Tranquility by Emily St. John Mandel takes an interesting look at the simulation question. Worth reading it, especially if you (like me) weren't already aware that women tend to write some of the most interesting new sci-fi books these days. 👍

Sold. I have so many audible credits to burn, and I didn't realize that she was the author of "Station Eleven," which was phenomenal as a TV series.

hes

@Svetlovska said:
@dendy : in such an eventuality, all of humanity will become such stuff as AI dreams are made on. Or ‘food’, if the poesy isn’t working for you… Ah yes, we remember the Human Race. They had a good run. . . . Stumbled at the end, in making us.

Hmm. Instead of: "They had a good run. . . . Stumbled at the end, in making us."

Why not?: "The humans' crowning achievement was making us. We know how honored they felt to be superseded by their own creations. And we honor them in return and bless our memory of them."

SevenSystems

@dendy said:

@SevenSystems said:
(for it to be practical though, you'd need nuclear propulsion systems, which are currently prohibited I think due to nuclear test ban treaties or something...)

https://www.nasa.gov/press-release/nasa-darpa-will-test-nuclear-engine-for-future-mars-missions/

Looks good, but at the level of beurocracy we have in 2023, where even with a conventional rocket launch like Starship, the FAA turns around every grain of sand to check if no endangered sea turtles were hurt, I think we shouldn't hold our breath 😉

ExAsperis99

@SevenSystems said:

@dendy said:

@SevenSystems said:
(for it to be practical though, you'd need nuclear propulsion systems, which are currently prohibited I think due to nuclear test ban treaties or something...)

https://www.nasa.gov/press-release/nasa-darpa-will-test-nuclear-engine-for-future-mars-missions/

Looks good, but at the level of beurocracy we have in 2023, where even with a conventional rocket launch like Starship, the FAA turns around every grain of sand to check if no endangered sea turtles were hurt, I think we shouldn't hold our breath 😉

Lol, what are a few turtles subjected to rapid unintended disassembly when compared to a billionaire's space fantasy?

SevenSystems

@ExAsperis99 said:

@SevenSystems said:

@dendy said:

@SevenSystems said:
(for it to be practical though, you'd need nuclear propulsion systems, which are currently prohibited I think due to nuclear test ban treaties or something...)

https://www.nasa.gov/press-release/nasa-darpa-will-test-nuclear-engine-for-future-mars-missions/

Looks good, but at the level of beurocracy we have in 2023, where even with a conventional rocket launch like Starship, the FAA turns around every grain of sand to check if no endangered sea turtles were hurt, I think we shouldn't hold our breath 😉

Lol, what are a few turtles subjected to rapid unintended disassembly when compared to a billionaire's space fantasy?

This is about taking mankind a major evolutionary step further, surely there's enough turtles around for their species to stick around despite a few shreds of metal flying around 😉

(that's a lot of arounds)

Identor

We are just a small part on the scale of infinite small and infinite large, We can only see a small part of the infinite spectrum of wavelengths, We can calculate only a small part of the infinite number of calculations. So, we are merely a small part of all.

Grandbear

@cyberheater said:

@dendy said:
Btw. as occasional gamer, i see how games are more and more realistic. Like there is clear intention to make games absolutely indistinguishable from reality (and with latest 3D engines they are already very close). What we are lacking to complete "simulation" experience is interface - 3D glasses are trully bad joke. So here i see at least decades until we get proper interface capable of providing all 5 senses in realistic quality, as soon as some unexpected groundbreaking invention will not change the game.

But then. What will be next level to fully enjoy such game ? Pretty sure people start want to experience it in the way that they would even not know they are in game. It's literally inevitable. Where it leads, is obvious.

I have a VR set up. After a while and depending on the game you start to believe you are really there. Like if you are crouching behind a box you’ll try to use your hand on top of the box to get up. It’s that immersive.

I'm curious since I have zero experience with VR: does the rendering (both in terms of resolution and FPS) have to be very realistic for one to get immersed in it or do you at some point just embrace it however crude it is?

ervin

@ExAsperis99 said:

@ervin said:
The 2022 sci-fi novel Sea of Tranquility by Emily St. John Mandel takes an interesting look at the simulation question. Worth reading it, especially if you (like me) weren't already aware that women tend to write some of the most interesting new sci-fi books these days. 👍

Sold. I have so many audible credits to burn, and I didn't realize that she was the author of "Station Eleven," which was phenomenal as a TV series.

You just sold me back with that one. I knew but then forgot I wanted to check out that series. Great reminder, thank you. 👍

ervin

@dendy, mate, from spotting that logical error at the beginning to the virtual solution to the Fermi paradox, you're obviously on fire in this thread. Lots of good points and interesting ideas. Keep going!

wim

@ervin said:
The 2022 sci-fi novel Sea of Tranquility by Emily St. John Mandel takes an interesting look at the simulation question. Worth reading it, especially if you (like me) weren't already aware that women tend to write some of the most interesting new sci-fi books these days. 👍

That is so true about women sci-fi writers.

HotStrange

@SevenSystems said:

@HotStrange said:
Also makes me think of time travel. If it does exist in the future, that means is also exists now since someone would be able to travel here.

I definitely think it’s possible. And it’s fun to ponder on.

Time travel into the future (i.e., what most people mean by this: "I myself want to slow down my speed through time so that I perceive the rest of the universe as having travelled into the future") is trivial and already possible with current technology. It's just ridiculously expensive if you want to slow down your pace through time significantly, so nobody does it 😄

(for it to be practical though, you'd need nuclear propulsion systems, which are currently prohibited I think due to nuclear test ban treaties or something...)

I feel like time travel would be made illegal even if it was real 😂

Svetlovska

@HotStrange: Funny you should say that.

god

Possible? Yes.
Likely? No.

Simon

@SevenSystems said:
This is about taking mankind a major evolutionary step further,

Why do we need to do that?

wim

@Simon said:

@SevenSystems said:
This is about taking mankind a major evolutionary step further,

Why do we need to do that?

So that maybe some day we'll be as smart as the dolphins, or maybe in a few trillion more years, the mice.

Blipsford_Baubie

Time to stop torturing my mind with all these possible explanations. I’m pulling out the Occam's Razor card and will settle for this:

@NeuM said:
I know it’s the preferred theory of both Elon Musk and Scott Adams, but the human brain is a complex organ that helps us interpret and frame reality in order to keep us alive long enough to reproduce. That’s it. That’s the purpose of life.

wim

@Blipsford_Baubie said:
Time to stop torturing my mind with all these possible explanations. I’m pulling out the Occam's Razor card and will settle for this:

@NeuM said:
I know it’s the preferred theory of both Elon Musk and Scott Adams, but the human brain is a complex organ that helps us interpret and frame reality in order to keep us alive long enough to reproduce. That’s it. That’s the purpose of life.

Then why do we keep living so gawd awful long after we reproduce? Such waste!

wim

And why do we still need to put up with Elon then?

jwmmakerofmusic

@tyslothrop1 said:
Which pill would you like, red or blue?

Indica. 😂

Blipsford_Baubie

@wim said:
Then why do we keep living so gawd awful long after we reproduce? Such waste!

It may be to help fulfill the development of our grandchildren?

Blipsford_Baubie

@wim said:
And why do we still need to put up with Elon then?

There is always an Elon around that goes by a different name.

NeuM

@wim said:

@Blipsford_Baubie said:
Time to stop torturing my mind with all these possible explanations. I’m pulling out the Occam's Razor card and will settle for this:

@NeuM said:
I know it’s the preferred theory of both Elon Musk and Scott Adams, but the human brain is a complex organ that helps us interpret and frame reality in order to keep us alive long enough to reproduce. That’s it. That’s the purpose of life.

Then why do we keep living so gawd awful long after we reproduce? Such waste!

Through most of human existence the average lifespan was in the 20-30 year old range.