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Thanks, @Gavinski and @hes . You both make valid and interesting points. I have, foolishly perhaps, decided to get an FP10, for the separate discipline of actually trying to learn to play a piano, and through it perhaps, to extend my currently non existent appreciation of music theory.
Doubtless it will soon join the graveyard of other instruments I have tried and failed to learn to play over the years. But for now, the discipline and opportunity to do something practical, even on days when I am not inspired to make noises in my usual way, on a device which costs no more than a single mid priced Eurorack module, seems worth the punt.
You've clearly (hopefully anyway haha) got the money to spend, so why not! I'll just say that I had exactly the same plan several years ago, to maybe start learning jazz on a midi keyboard. Not really with any intention of playing jazz, but more some kind of jazz tinged experimental music. I move around so I did not go for a weighted keyboard and I was worried about whether I would follow through, but still went for a 61-note model, not ideal but not terrible. Anyway, I got a seaboard around the same time and took to that more. The regular midi keyboard has gathered dust and will probably continue to until I sell it before I leave China, which will be soon.
Some people have the discipline and personality that orient them to structure. The kind of people who make to-do lists etc. I am not in that camp and no longer have the pretensions or desire to be. I basically have to just go with my feelings, interests and passions. This has its own pros and cons. Getting access to so many new apps and wanting to make videos on at least some of them, often under time constraints, and forcing myself to do the youtube admin aspects I hate already requires more than enough self discipline as far as I'm concerned.
Anyway... My prediction... You will not persist in learning traditional keyboard technique and theory and you will rarely use this thing. Prove me wrong though! 😉
Oh, but if you buy pianoteq, or better yet, save your money and stick with the free version, I bet you it will find its way into more than a few of your tracks!
@Gavinski : You are almost certainly right! Even a global pandemic and lockdown only saw me finish the first Fender guitar total beginner course, (though it was actually a very good course, I thought), and I now have a beautiful Ibanez semi acoustic hanging on my wall, cruelly neglected.
There is a small panicky voice at the back of my mind though, whispering ‘use it or lose it, use it or lose it’, so, retired, with nothing but time and death ahead, knowing about neural plasticity, and fearing dementia, the idea of learning cognitively and physically demanding new skills at this stage of life strikes me as perhaps a few fragments shored against the inevitable ruin. After all, where would Quixote be without yet another windmill to tilt at?
“This is my quest, to follow that star
No matter how hopeless, no matter how far…
To fight the unbeatable foe
To reach the unreachable star.”
For sure, I definitely get you. Learning all the modular stuff, all those new apps you get, making your beautiful 'noises', writing all those witty and articulate posts here and whatever other stuff you do in real life will likely keep your brain in great shape. Eat a good diet, exercise, supplement with NAC, don't smoke, do some kind of stress reduction practices, if necessary, drink very moderately if at all! These seem to be the key things to keep the old noggin in decent shape through the twilight years.
I don’t have space for a full keyboard anymore since doing the tiny house thing so a small 2-3 octave Bluetooth controller is all I need now. I know a small bit of theory and I reckon for an experimental musician that’s good enough 😂 I’m the same way where I just let my inspirations take me.
I imagine those YouTube admin duties can be a time suck - and suck in general. I’m planning on uploading more to YouTube, just little tracks short purely for fun.
Anyway, good luck with the move!
Go for the Roland FP10!
If you get tired of the onboard sounds, it’s easy to hook up your your FP10 to iPhone/iPad over bluetooth and use something better…
both mozart and chopin had from small to average hand sizes in estimation. Scriabin could only reach an octave.
Liszt had huge hands but let's face it Chopin blew him out of the water.
Chopin and Mendelsohn is my two biggest favorites concerning music for piano…
Chopin was a genius. Was so happy the Pleyel came free in Pianoteq. It nails those mellow vibes he had perfectly. Some of the most delicate piano work ever.
I used to use some Chopin MIDI-files when I really wanna listen to different pianos on my iPad, and yes, what a great composer!
nice, yep Chopin and Bach are my fav's
Sounds like a great idea! I really love Erik Satie as well.
I’m very partial to a bit of Glenn Gould doing Brahms
@ErrkaPetti : I’m going to!
In the meantime, this afternoon I’m going to try some resonator and fx experiments with this, which arrived this morning:
£18 on eBay (! - I’ve seen similar vintage ones go for over £100), plays fine, no air leaks after my quick internal clean up and disinfectant precautions. It is surprisingly loud, seems in tune, solid and compact in the hand. I like this ‘button’ keyboard much more than the full piano key type which are now the style. I’ve fitted it with a stick on piezo external mic, so it will be interesting to run it into modular gizmos like my Morphagene.
Cool!!
Does it have bluetooth MIDI 😎😎😎😎
Good luck and enjoy your new mucical item!
Pretty impressed that Thomann still offer new spareparts to this Melodica.
Yup, I’d be getting one too, except that with shipping & VAT to the UK post bloody f***ing Brexit, it costs… £18. Doh!
So: disinfectant bath it is then. At least it has the mouthpiece. (Albeit well chewed in this case.) Most s/h ones seem not to.
I’m trying to find a UK spares supplier, but so far, no dice. There’s also apparently a bigger mouthpiece for the style, the Hohner A75 Vista, available in some territories:
But availability is the same story there. Could be an opportunity for someone with a 3D printer…
If anyone has them here, it’ll be some specialist shop, or hobbyist,` with zero web presence. I’ve even joined ‘Melodica World’, the website for all things Melodica (example: one guy spent 8 years and hundreds of pounds making his own from scratch, including woodworking, and 3D printing. It is a thing of beauty, mind.) and posted a help request. Let’s see what happens.
Incidentally, the German schools edition, also vintage, looks very cool, don’t you think?
I still have my Melodica Piano 27 from High School. Back then, I would sometimes use it in the marching band, when I didn't want to lug around my saxophone.
It still works, though it is missing the mouthpiece.
Hard to understate the importance of Hohner. What a killer back catalogue they have!
16 Hohner Melodicas
@DavidEnglish : that is a lovely thing!
And…
…as per my promise above…
…I just posted my first ever actual real Melodica track over in Creations!:
https://forum.audiob.us/discussion/56264/a-little-real-melodica-action-cryosphere#latest
(A little excited because I don’t play instruments as a rule
)
How is it (if you’re an advanced player), is it played with white keys on right hand and the black keys on the left hand?
Well, David sounds like he knows what he is talking about, playing sax etcetera…? Interested to hear his answer.
I can’t play it at all, but the reason I wanted a button type not a key type is that it seems natural to hold one like that with both hands, the left taking the black notes and the right the white. The keys slope either side so it seems it was built for that, you can really only easily play it that way. I guess a proper keyboard player might find that an odd arrangement, and modern designs seem to have universally plumped for a ‘proper’ keyboard, but since I have no experience either way, it makes no difference to me. And I’m left handed, anyway. Used to having to do things ‘cack handed’.
I would use my left hand to hold it, using the hand strap that's attached underneath the Melodica Piano 27. I would then play it with my right hand only.
(That might be the other way around if you're left handed. Try gripping the strap underhanded with your right hand, and have the Melodica face towards you, rather than away from you).
I'm not sure how I managed to hold the music when marching, but that would have been an issue for any of the instruments. It was probably whatever was standard marching-band issue.
I do remember that the alto sax and Melodica weren't in the same key. I think I grabbed the music for a C-key flute.
I'm reluctant to admit it, but I was the drum major. Probably the world's most boring drum major ever -- by a wide margin. They couldn't get anyone else to do it. When we were playing in the stands for a football game, I would always use the Melodica. Fortunately, there are no incriminating pictures or recordings (that I know of).
I have a cheap one now but man this is really making me want to grab one of these classic Melodicas. They sound great!
I remember someone mentioning they might try the acoustic guitar from Pianoteq with Nembrini Acoustic Voices. Anyone tried this? Would be curious what the results would be
I’d love to know also. I mentioned wanting to try it earlier in the thread but I haven’t purchased the Nembrini app yet.
You wanna bite that bullet haha? Since pianoteq already has you extremely well covered for mic position etc, I'm not sure how much the Nembrini amp would add, apart from the some saturation etc, which you could get from other apps. Who knows, would maybe be great tho
I can try later when I‘m back home, both apps should be installed (on desktop). What would be the main focus? The IR aspect / to make it sound like another guitar model? Or the effects in general?
Well actually the Stage license doesn’t give you the ability to change mic position as far as I know. But I can do that with ToneX, it just colors the sound too much, even with clean settings. And there’s the MicSwap AU but the free version only has a handful of mics.
I’m definitely considering it but I’m not sure exactly how much I’d use it. Gonna have to do some demo diving.