Pianoteq 8 is now on the AppStore

el_bo

@Gavinski said:

@Bruques said:
One persons blind test of 10 candidates.

We can all claim an opinion but we're not even accurate in our own opinions. It's been many times shown if you believe something then you will hear it as such, EG you turned down the bass and now its better only to find later you turned the wrong knob, thus, if it's not born out in a (double) blind test, it doesn't mean much

Yes... Similar to placebo effect in medicine. And I imagine the more you spend the more biased you are, which research has shown to be true of placebo in medicine. The more white coats, the fancier the machines and hospital, the better the results, eben if just a sugar pill was given.

(ps: yes I would also say this makes me a bit biased in favour of pianoteq, as the Studio Pro upgrade, even though I got it at a discount, was easily the most I've spent on an app, ever

Grandeur and Noire are pretty consistently ranked among favourites over at VI-Control forums. Pretty good going considering their cost within the Komplete bundles.

McD

@el_bo said:

@Gavinski said:

@Bruques said:
One persons blind test of 10 candidates.

We can all claim an opinion but we're not even accurate in our own opinions. It's been many times shown if you believe something then you will hear it as such, EG you turned down the bass and now its better only to find later you turned the wrong knob, thus, if it's not born out in a (double) blind test, it doesn't mean much

Yes... Similar to placebo effect in medicine. And I imagine the more you spend the more biased you are, which research has shown to be true of placebo in medicine. The more white coats, the fancier the machines and hospital, the better the results, eben if just a sugar pill was given.

(ps: yes I would also say this makes me a bit biased in favour of pianoteq, as the Studio Pro upgrade, even though I got it at a discount, was easily the most I've spent on an app, ever

Grandeur and Noire are pretty consistently ranked among favourites over at VI-Control forums. Pretty good going considering their cost within the Komplete bundles.

It’s going to be a big deal when NI turns its attention towards IOS. Do they charge per platform between Mac and Windows or follow the Modartt approach?

el_bo

@McD said:

@el_bo said:

@Gavinski said:

@Bruques said:
One persons blind test of 10 candidates.

We can all claim an opinion but we're not even accurate in our own opinions. It's been many times shown if you believe something then you will hear it as such, EG you turned down the bass and now its better only to find later you turned the wrong knob, thus, if it's not born out in a (double) blind test, it doesn't mean much

Yes... Similar to placebo effect in medicine. And I imagine the more you spend the more biased you are, which research has shown to be true of placebo in medicine. The more white coats, the fancier the machines and hospital, the better the results, eben if just a sugar pill was given.

(ps: yes I would also say this makes me a bit biased in favour of pianoteq, as the Studio Pro upgrade, even though I got it at a discount, was easily the most I've spent on an app, ever

Grandeur and Noire are pretty consistently ranked among favourites over at VI-Control forums. Pretty good going considering their cost within the Komplete bundles.

It’s going to be a big deal when NI turns its attention towards IOS. Do they charge per platform between Mac and Windows or follow the Modartt approach?

Have I missed some juicy bit of NI/iOS-related news?

McD

@el_bo said:

@McD said:

@el_bo said:

@Gavinski said:

@Bruques said:
One persons blind test of 10 candidates.

We can all claim an opinion but we're not even accurate in our own opinions. It's been many times shown if you believe something then you will hear it as such, EG you turned down the bass and now its better only to find later you turned the wrong knob, thus, if it's not born out in a (double) blind test, it doesn't mean much

Yes... Similar to placebo effect in medicine. And I imagine the more you spend the more biased you are, which research has shown to be true of placebo in medicine. The more white coats, the fancier the machines and hospital, the better the results, eben if just a sugar pill was given.

(ps: yes I would also say this makes me a bit biased in favour of pianoteq, as the Studio Pro upgrade, even though I got it at a discount, was easily the most I've spent on an app, ever

Grandeur and Noire are pretty consistently ranked among favourites over at VI-Control forums. Pretty good going considering their cost within the Komplete bundles.

It’s going to be a big deal when NI turns its attention towards IOS. Do they charge per platform between Mac and Windows or follow the Modartt approach?

Have I missed some juicy bit of NI/iOS-related news?

No. I’m just anticipating that all major software will find it’s way to us eventually. Add a Smart Keyboard to an iPad and it allows putting the MacBook aside for many creatives.

Bruques

@el_bo said:

@Gavinski said:

@Bruques said:
One persons blind test of 10 candidates.

We can all claim an opinion but we're not even accurate in our own opinions. It's been many times shown if you believe something then you will hear it as such, EG you turned down the bass and now its better only to find later you turned the wrong knob, thus, if it's not born out in a (double) blind test, it doesn't mean much

Yes... Similar to placebo effect in medicine. And I imagine the more you spend the more biased you are, which research has shown to be true of placebo in medicine. The more white coats, the fancier the machines and hospital, the better the results, eben if just a sugar pill was given.

(ps: yes I would also say this makes me a bit biased in favour of pianoteq, as the Studio Pro upgrade, even though I got it at a discount, was easily the most I've spent on an app, ever

Grandeur and Noire are pretty consistently ranked among favourites over at VI-Control forums. Pretty good going considering their cost within the Komplete bundles.

Yeah I really have loved Grandeur, as an all purpose all rounder, and have used on dozens of records and plenty of gigs,
although with Pianoteq 8 as of now I don't open any library pianos. I had previously started using Pianoteq pretty much from version1, up to version3 at the end of the 2000s, then started using mainly Grandeur instead but also some other library pianos, depending what was needed or wanted. Only now that pianoteq went ios that provoked me to finally update my old license, and I'm so happy with it. Even back at version 3, I think it did sound better than some people say. I had studio experiences with conservatory piano players who favoured what we did when run through Pianoteq even back then and we did use it on record. For the past decade Grandeur was my go to but now that is pianoteq.

HotStrange

@McD said:

@HotStrange said:
For me personally, Pianoteq is app of the year but Logic Pro is up there too!

It’s a shame that it’s so expensive to get at the controls. It’s truly amazing what’s possible with morphing and layering. I hope the usual FX makers go deep into modeling and expose all the controls. I also hope piano tech just keeps adding more instruments overtime and not just more pianos.

I’m sure @gavinski can agree that being able to tweak the envelope and all the physical aspects of the instrument including hammer hardness, length of strings, harmonic overtone volumes. Their model is just incredible and having a hundred unique instruments in less that 66MB. The latency benefits are also important compared to sampled instruments.

100% agreed on all accounts. I only have the Stage version but I’ve been demoing the Standard unlock and I’m definitely saving up to get it now. Exposing all those parameters to tweak can take the sounds into otherworldly territory. I love using acoustic sounds and manipulating them into something else, so that is a definite need in my life now lol. I got the classical guitar and Hohner packs. Not sure what my 3rd will be yet but I’m leaning towards the Tines because I’m a sucker for electric pianos.

I’d like to see Organteq on iOS eventually as well. I haven’t done much research into their other instruments though. I’ll have to do that.

ErrkaPetti

@McD said:

@el_bo said:

@Gavinski said:

@Bruques said:
One persons blind test of 10 candidates.

We can all claim an opinion but we're not even accurate in our own opinions. It's been many times shown if you believe something then you will hear it as such, EG you turned down the bass and now its better only to find later you turned the wrong knob, thus, if it's not born out in a (double) blind test, it doesn't mean much

Yes... Similar to placebo effect in medicine. And I imagine the more you spend the more biased you are, which research has shown to be true of placebo in medicine. The more white coats, the fancier the machines and hospital, the better the results, eben if just a sugar pill was given.

(ps: yes I would also say this makes me a bit biased in favour of pianoteq, as the Studio Pro upgrade, even though I got it at a discount, was easily the most I've spent on an app, ever

Grandeur and Noire are pretty consistently ranked among favourites over at VI-Control forums. Pretty good going considering their cost within the Komplete bundles.

It’s going to be a big deal when NI turns its attention towards IOS. Do they charge per platform between Mac and Windows or follow the Modartt approach?

No, Native Instruments iOS adventure is over and out - NI:s low interest of this platform is very obvious…

ruggedsmooth

I’ve been holding on this, hoping for some sales
Recently got a new MBP, so it’s real tempting
Loving this cross platform iPad and desktop stuff !

michael_m

@McD said:

@el_bo said:

@Gavinski said:

@Bruques said:
One persons blind test of 10 candidates.

We can all claim an opinion but we're not even accurate in our own opinions. It's been many times shown if you believe something then you will hear it as such, EG you turned down the bass and now its better only to find later you turned the wrong knob, thus, if it's not born out in a (double) blind test, it doesn't mean much

Yes... Similar to placebo effect in medicine. And I imagine the more you spend the more biased you are, which research has shown to be true of placebo in medicine. The more white coats, the fancier the machines and hospital, the better the results, eben if just a sugar pill was given.

(ps: yes I would also say this makes me a bit biased in favour of pianoteq, as the Studio Pro upgrade, even though I got it at a discount, was easily the most I've spent on an app, ever

Grandeur and Noire are pretty consistently ranked among favourites over at VI-Control forums. Pretty good going considering their cost within the Komplete bundles.

It’s going to be a big deal when NI turns its attention towards IOS. Do they charge per platform between Mac and Windows or follow the Modartt approach?

I wonder if they will though? iMaschine seemed like a failed experiment, and they have been focused more on sound packs and hardware in recent years rather than new software products.

Time will tell I guess.

McD

@michael_m said:
I wonder if they will though? iMaschine seemed like a failed experiment, and they have been focused more on sound packs and hardware in recent years rather than new software products.

How hard would it be to make an AUv3 player for their sound packs?

Time will tell I guess.

It always does if you wait long enough to hear “No” without ambiguity.

el_bo

@McD said:

@el_bo said:

@McD said:

@el_bo said:

@Gavinski said:

@Bruques said:
One persons blind test of 10 candidates.

We can all claim an opinion but we're not even accurate in our own opinions. It's been many times shown if you believe something then you will hear it as such, EG you turned down the bass and now its better only to find later you turned the wrong knob, thus, if it's not born out in a (double) blind test, it doesn't mean much

Yes... Similar to placebo effect in medicine. And I imagine the more you spend the more biased you are, which research has shown to be true of placebo in medicine. The more white coats, the fancier the machines and hospital, the better the results, eben if just a sugar pill was given.

(ps: yes I would also say this makes me a bit biased in favour of pianoteq, as the Studio Pro upgrade, even though I got it at a discount, was easily the most I've spent on an app, ever

Grandeur and Noire are pretty consistently ranked among favourites over at VI-Control forums. Pretty good going considering their cost within the Komplete bundles.

It’s going to be a big deal when NI turns its attention towards IOS. Do they charge per platform between Mac and Windows or follow the Modartt approach?

Have I missed some juicy bit of NI/iOS-related news?

No. I’m just anticipating that all major software will find it’s way to us eventually. Add a Smart Keyboard to an iPad and it allows putting the MacBook aside for many creatives.

Certainly, Apple bringing Logic to iPad could bring about a shift in confidence for the mobile platform, in terms of longevity and utility (I'm thinking about improvements in robustness for the underlying architecture, file-system etc.). But I imagine one of the biggest hurdles for many would be the inability to sell directly to the end-users, circumventing the Applestore tax.

As a K13UCE user, I guess I'd be pretty happy for much of that catalogue to be opened up to iPadOS etc. especially if my desktop license covered mobile use. I'm just not so sure it'll happen; at least not until user numbers demonstrated a preference. More than that, I get the impression that things are a bit messy over at NI at the moment. Not prone to bashing NI as seems be 'de rigueur' these days, but I'm not sure adding the many vagaries of mobile production is high on theirs or their investors' priorities. I could, of course, be wrong.

And not to be a disagreeing Derek, but I'm not so convinced by the advantages of Smart-Keyboards for creatives. I don't think there's any way to use mobile devices that doesn't represent some form of ergonomic compromise. But adding a Smart Keyboard would seem to add more.

Not knocking iOS as a serious platform at all. If I only had an iPad I could still make a lot of music, and actually the only thing I really would miss is the much better sampled Kontakt libraries. But until such a time as I'm forced into a mobile-only scenario, I'm still going to prefer a desktop setup.

el_bo

@Bruques said:

@el_bo said:

@Gavinski said:

@Bruques said:
One persons blind test of 10 candidates.

We can all claim an opinion but we're not even accurate in our own opinions. It's been many times shown if you believe something then you will hear it as such, EG you turned down the bass and now its better only to find later you turned the wrong knob, thus, if it's not born out in a (double) blind test, it doesn't mean much

Yes... Similar to placebo effect in medicine. And I imagine the more you spend the more biased you are, which research has shown to be true of placebo in medicine. The more white coats, the fancier the machines and hospital, the better the results, eben if just a sugar pill was given.

(ps: yes I would also say this makes me a bit biased in favour of pianoteq, as the Studio Pro upgrade, even though I got it at a discount, was easily the most I've spent on an app, ever

Grandeur and Noire are pretty consistently ranked among favourites over at VI-Control forums. Pretty good going considering their cost within the Komplete bundles.

Yeah I really have loved Grandeur, as an all purpose all rounder, and have used on dozens of records and plenty of gigs,
although with Pianoteq 8 as of now I don't open any library pianos. I had previously started using Pianoteq pretty much from version1, up to version3 at the end of the 2000s, then started using mainly Grandeur instead but also some other library pianos, depending what was needed or wanted. Only now that pianoteq went ios that provoked me to finally update my old license, and I'm so happy with it. Even back at version 3, I think it did sound better than some people say. I had studio experiences with conservatory piano players who favoured what we did when run through Pianoteq even back then and we did use it on record. For the past decade Grandeur was my go to but now that is pianoteq.

Yeah...all-rounder, it certainly seems to be. Good dynamic range, very playable, sits well in 'the' mix. Pianoteq also seems great, for different reasons. Not something I could justify, as I'm neither a good enough payer nor have the discernment of ear necessary to distinguish between a lot of this stuff. I have what comes with Komplete (Una Corda is a beautiful thing) and a few other freebies, which seem to cover all my needs.

el_bo

@ErrkaPetti said:

@McD said:

@el_bo said:

@Gavinski said:

@Bruques said:
One persons blind test of 10 candidates.

We can all claim an opinion but we're not even accurate in our own opinions. It's been many times shown if you believe something then you will hear it as such, EG you turned down the bass and now its better only to find later you turned the wrong knob, thus, if it's not born out in a (double) blind test, it doesn't mean much

Yes... Similar to placebo effect in medicine. And I imagine the more you spend the more biased you are, which research has shown to be true of placebo in medicine. The more white coats, the fancier the machines and hospital, the better the results, eben if just a sugar pill was given.

(ps: yes I would also say this makes me a bit biased in favour of pianoteq, as the Studio Pro upgrade, even though I got it at a discount, was easily the most I've spent on an app, ever

Grandeur and Noire are pretty consistently ranked among favourites over at VI-Control forums. Pretty good going considering their cost within the Komplete bundles.

It’s going to be a big deal when NI turns its attention towards IOS. Do they charge per platform between Mac and Windows or follow the Modartt approach?

No

Your life must be so simple

ErrkaPetti

@el_bo said:

@ErrkaPetti said:

@McD said:

@el_bo said:

@Gavinski said:

@Bruques said:
One persons blind test of 10 candidates.

We can all claim an opinion but we're not even accurate in our own opinions. It's been many times shown if you believe something then you will hear it as such, EG you turned down the bass and now its better only to find later you turned the wrong knob, thus, if it's not born out in a (double) blind test, it doesn't mean much

Yes... Similar to placebo effect in medicine. And I imagine the more you spend the more biased you are, which research has shown to be true of placebo in medicine. The more white coats, the fancier the machines and hospital, the better the results, eben if just a sugar pill was given.

(ps: yes I would also say this makes me a bit biased in favour of pianoteq, as the Studio Pro upgrade, even though I got it at a discount, was easily the most I've spent on an app, ever

Grandeur and Noire are pretty consistently ranked among favourites over at VI-Control forums. Pretty good going considering their cost within the Komplete bundles.

It’s going to be a big deal when NI turns its attention towards IOS. Do they charge per platform between Mac and Windows or follow the Modartt approach?

No

Your life must be so simple

Simple??

The statement that Native Instruments low interest in iOS platform has nothing to do with simplicity…

el_bo

@ErrkaPetti said:

@el_bo said:

@ErrkaPetti said:

@McD said:

@el_bo said:

@Gavinski said:

@Bruques said:
One persons blind test of 10 candidates.

We can all claim an opinion but we're not even accurate in our own opinions. It's been many times shown if you believe something then you will hear it as such, EG you turned down the bass and now its better only to find later you turned the wrong knob, thus, if it's not born out in a (double) blind test, it doesn't mean much

Yes... Similar to placebo effect in medicine. And I imagine the more you spend the more biased you are, which research has shown to be true of placebo in medicine. The more white coats, the fancier the machines and hospital, the better the results, eben if just a sugar pill was given.

(ps: yes I would also say this makes me a bit biased in favour of pianoteq, as the Studio Pro upgrade, even though I got it at a discount, was easily the most I've spent on an app, ever

Grandeur and Noire are pretty consistently ranked among favourites over at VI-Control forums. Pretty good going considering their cost within the Komplete bundles.

It’s going to be a big deal when NI turns its attention towards IOS. Do they charge per platform between Mac and Windows or follow the Modartt approach?

No

Your life must be so simple

Simple??

Yes! You answered with absolute certainty when speculation and opinion is all any of us has.

michael_m

@el_bo said:

@ErrkaPetti said:

@el_bo said:

@ErrkaPetti said:

@McD said:

@el_bo said:

@Gavinski said:

@Bruques said:
One persons blind test of 10 candidates.

We can all claim an opinion but we're not even accurate in our own opinions. It's been many times shown if you believe something then you will hear it as such, EG you turned down the bass and now its better only to find later you turned the wrong knob, thus, if it's not born out in a (double) blind test, it doesn't mean much

Yes... Similar to placebo effect in medicine. And I imagine the more you spend the more biased you are, which research has shown to be true of placebo in medicine. The more white coats, the fancier the machines and hospital, the better the results, eben if just a sugar pill was given.

(ps: yes I would also say this makes me a bit biased in favour of pianoteq, as the Studio Pro upgrade, even though I got it at a discount, was easily the most I've spent on an app, ever

Grandeur and Noire are pretty consistently ranked among favourites over at VI-Control forums. Pretty good going considering their cost within the Komplete bundles.

It’s going to be a big deal when NI turns its attention towards IOS. Do they charge per platform between Mac and Windows or follow the Modartt approach?

No

Your life must be so simple

Simple??

Yes! You answered with absolute certainty when speculation and opinion is all any of us has.

Yeah, that’s pretty much the best we can do without being privy to the business strategies of the various companies who don’t yet have a big presence on iOS. I think most of us will admit to how notoriously hard it has been to predict what will make it to iOS and what won’t.

fisherro

@el_bo said:
But I imagine one of the biggest hurdles for many would be the inability to sell directly to the end-users, circumventing the Applestore tax.

Circumventing the App Store cut and selling direct has been around as long as the App Store. Amazon and Netflix, to give just two examples, have long been doing it. And Modeartt is too with the difference that they also let you make purchases in-app where Apple takes their cut. But Apple didn’t get a cut of what I paid Modeartt.

Gavinski

@fisherro said:

@el_bo said:
But I imagine one of the biggest hurdles for many would be the inability to sell directly to the end-users, circumventing the Applestore tax.

Circumventing the App Store cut and selling direct has been around as long as the App Store. Amazon and Netflix, to give just two examples, have long been doing it. And Modeartt is too with the difference that they also let you make purchases in-app where Apple takes their cut. But Apple didn’t get a cut of what I paid Modeartt.

@michael_m said:

@el_bo said:

@ErrkaPetti said:

@el_bo said:

@ErrkaPetti said:

@McD said:

@el_bo said:

@Gavinski said:

@Bruques said:
One persons blind test of 10 candidates.

We can all claim an opinion but we're not even accurate in our own opinions. It's been many times shown if you believe something then you will hear it as such, EG you turned down the bass and now its better only to find later you turned the wrong knob, thus, if it's not born out in a (double) blind test, it doesn't mean much

Yes... Similar to placebo effect in medicine. And I imagine the more you spend the more biased you are, which research has shown to be true of placebo in medicine. The more white coats, the fancier the machines and hospital, the better the results, eben if just a sugar pill was given.

(ps: yes I would also say this makes me a bit biased in favour of pianoteq, as the Studio Pro upgrade, even though I got it at a discount, was easily the most I've spent on an app, ever

Grandeur and Noire are pretty consistently ranked among favourites over at VI-Control forums. Pretty good going considering their cost within the Komplete bundles.

It’s going to be a big deal when NI turns its attention towards IOS. Do they charge per platform between Mac and Windows or follow the Modartt approach?

No

Your life must be so simple

Simple??

Yes! You answered with absolute certainty when speculation and opinion is all any of us has.

Yeah, that’s pretty much the best we can do without being privy to the business strategies of the various companies who don’t yet have a big presence on iOS. I think most of us will admit to how notoriously hard it has been to predict what will make it to iOS and what won’t.

+1 on both these. I hope more devs see what modartt did there and realise they can do the same. Anyway, a 15% cut (few music devs are going to make 1 million a year in ios sales, and if they can, they can probably afford the 30%) is not much to ask to open up a whole new market. Not many committed desktop heads gonna be abandoning desktop for iOS - like us, they've mostly invested too much money in the platform already, so are more likely to go hybrid.

Montreal_Music

@Bruques said:
One persons blind test of 10 candidates.

We can all claim an opinion but we're not even accurate in our own opinions. It's been many times shown if you believe something then you will hear it as such, EG you turned down the bass and now its better only to find later you turned the wrong knob, thus, if it's not born out in a (double) blind test, it doesn't mean much

A lot of talk about the dynamic range in that video...There is the VST of course, but there is the midi controller too.

I have a couple of midi controller and the one that has the better dynamic range is my Linnstrument. Way better than my others midi controller (Yamaha, Novation, Arturia). Maybe the Komplete Kontrol is not top notch?

Gavinski

@Montreal_Music said:

@Bruques said:
One persons blind test of 10 candidates.

We can all claim an opinion but we're not even accurate in our own opinions. It's been many times shown if you believe something then you will hear it as such, EG you turned down the bass and now its better only to find later you turned the wrong knob, thus, if it's not born out in a (double) blind test, it doesn't mean much

A lot of talk about the dynamic range in that video...There is the VST of course, but there is the midi controller too.

I have a couple of midi controller and the one that has the better dynamic range is my Linnstrument. Way better than my others midi controller (Yamaha, Novation, Arturia). Maybe the Komplete Kontrol is not top notch?

Yeah - he refers here to ‘the Pianoteq’ - he should really have been referring to the Steinberg D. I also wonder if he had calibrated it for his keyboard. Another problem with blind comparisons, btw, is that you are almost always going to be slightly swayed by whatever was the last thing you listened to. If the previous plugin sounded shit, the next one will sound better in comparison. Also, the idea that someone can play something for a few seconds and then give it a score like 6.8 or 7.1, with these tiny decimal increments having any real meaning, is kind of farcical. Sure, you can make up your mind whether you prefer Pepsi or Coke in a blind test in a few seconds…but not really with a piano

el_bo

@fisherro said:

@el_bo said:
But I imagine one of the biggest hurdles for many would be the inability to sell directly to the end-users, circumventing the Applestore tax.

Circumventing the App Store cut and selling direct has been around as long as the App Store. Amazon and Netflix, to give just two examples, have long been doing it. And Modeartt is too with the difference that they also let you make purchases in-app where Apple takes their cut. But Apple didn’t get a cut of what I paid Modeartt.

Not sure I'm understanding. In the case of Amazon and Netflix, they already have a cross-platform subscription license. The situation with Modarrt is not common and would only apply to those companies who offered either/both iap on desktop and free iPad versions for desktop license owners.

el_bo

@michael_m said:

@el_bo said:

@ErrkaPetti said:

@el_bo said:

@ErrkaPetti said:

@McD said:

@el_bo said:

@Gavinski said:

@Bruques said:
One persons blind test of 10 candidates.

We can all claim an opinion but we're not even accurate in our own opinions. It's been many times shown if you believe something then you will hear it as such, EG you turned down the bass and now its better only to find later you turned the wrong knob, thus, if it's not born out in a (double) blind test, it doesn't mean much

Yes... Similar to placebo effect in medicine. And I imagine the more you spend the more biased you are, which research has shown to be true of placebo in medicine. The more white coats, the fancier the machines and hospital, the better the results, eben if just a sugar pill was given.

(ps: yes I would also say this makes me a bit biased in favour of pianoteq, as the Studio Pro upgrade, even though I got it at a discount, was easily the most I've spent on an app, ever

Grandeur and Noire are pretty consistently ranked among favourites over at VI-Control forums. Pretty good going considering their cost within the Komplete bundles.

It’s going to be a big deal when NI turns its attention towards IOS. Do they charge per platform between Mac and Windows or follow the Modartt approach?

No

Your life must be so simple

Simple??

Yes! You answered with absolute certainty when speculation and opinion is all any of us has.

Yeah, that’s pretty much the best we can do without being privy to the business strategies of the various companies who don’t yet have a big presence on iOS. I think most of us will admit to how notoriously hard it has been to predict what will make it to iOS and what won’t.

Even those that are privy to info in bigger companies will likely be under some form of NDA. And yeah…I was one of a handful who believed that Logic would never come to iPad

el_bo

@McD said:

@el_bo said:

@McD said:

@el_bo said:

@Gavinski said:

@Bruques said:
One persons blind test of 10 candidates.

We can all claim an opinion but we're not even accurate in our own opinions. It's been many times shown if you believe something then you will hear it as such, EG you turned down the bass and now its better only to find later you turned the wrong knob, thus, if it's not born out in a (double) blind test, it doesn't mean much

Yes... Similar to placebo effect in medicine. And I imagine the more you spend the more biased you are, which research has shown to be true of placebo in medicine. The more white coats, the fancier the machines and hospital, the better the results, eben if just a sugar pill was given.

(ps: yes I would also say this makes me a bit biased in favour of pianoteq, as the Studio Pro upgrade, even though I got it at a discount, was easily the most I've spent on an app, ever

Grandeur and Noire are pretty consistently ranked among favourites over at VI-Control forums. Pretty good going considering their cost within the Komplete bundles.

It’s going to be a big deal when NI turns its attention towards IOS. Do they charge per platform between Mac and Windows or follow the Modartt approach?

Have I missed some juicy bit of NI/iOS-related news?

No. I’m just anticipating that all major software will find it’s way to us eventually. Add a Smart Keyboard to an iPad and it allows putting the MacBook aside for many creatives.

Actually, thinking about it, the smart keyboards are not big enough to cause issues in the way it would on a touchscreen laptop. So scrub that

TimRussell

Modarrt currently having a summer sale
Pianoteq standard 20% off
https://www.modartt.com/

Paulo164

@TimRussell said:
Modarrt currently having a summer sale
Pianoteq standard 20% off
https://www.modartt.com/

Not only PianoTeq Standard but all store (instrument packs, upgrades, etc.)

shirbeats

Where do you see that sale for whole store ? The last few summers the sale was always standard and instrument packs and it says that on the modartt site. It shows stage, studio and pro or upgrading to those As regular price.

“Summer Promo
Until August 15, buy Pianoteq Standard or upgrade to Pianoteq Standard at 20% off,
Organteq at 20% off and Pianoteq Instrument Packs at 20% off.”

Here’s the photo and description -

“ Summer Promo
Until August 15, buy Pianoteq Standard or upgrade to Pianoteq Standard at 20% off,
Organteq at 20% off and Pianoteq Instrument Packs at 20% off.”

@Paulo164 said:

@TimRussell said:
Modarrt currently having a summer sale
Pianoteq standard 20% off
https://www.modartt.com/

Not only PianoTeq Standard but all store (instrument packs, upgrades, etc.)

Paulo164

@shirbeats said:
Where do you see that sale for whole store ? The last few summers the sale was always standard and instrument packs and it says that on the modartt site. It shows stage, studio and pro or upgrading to those As regular price.

“Summer Promo
Until August 15, buy Pianoteq Standard or upgrade to Pianoteq Standard at 20% off,
Organteq at 20% off and Pianoteq Instrument Packs at 20% off.”

Here’s the photo and description -

“ Summer Promo
Until August 15, buy Pianoteq Standard or upgrade to Pianoteq Standard at 20% off,
Organteq at 20% off and Pianoteq Instrument Packs at 20% off.”

@Paulo164 said:

@TimRussell said:
Modarrt currently having a summer sale
Pianoteq standard 20% off
https://www.modartt.com/

Not only PianoTeq Standard but all store (instrument packs, upgrades, etc.)

Oh yes, sorry. I went a bit too fast…
So everything resulting in the Standard license + OrganTeq + Instrument packs

ErrkaPetti

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@Bruques said:
One persons blind test of 10 candidates.

We can all claim an opinion but we're not even accurate in our own opinions. It's been many times shown if you believe something then you will hear it as such, EG you turned down the bass and now its better only to find later you turned the wrong knob, thus, if it's not born out in a (double) blind test, it doesn't mean much

Yes... Similar to placebo effect in medicine. And I imagine the more you spend the more biased you are, which research has shown to be true of placebo in medicine. The more white coats, the fancier the machines and hospital, the better the results, eben if just a sugar pill was given.

(ps: yes I would also say this makes me a bit biased in favour of pianoteq, as the Studio Pro upgrade, even though I got it at a discount, was easily the most I've spent on an app, ever

Grandeur and Noire are pretty consistently ranked among favourites over at VI-Control forums. Pretty good going considering their cost within the Komplete bundles.

It’s going to be a big deal when NI turns its attention towards IOS. Do they charge per platform between Mac and Windows or follow the Modartt approach?

No

Your life must be so simple

Simple??

Yes! You answered with absolute certainty when speculation and opinion is all any of us has.

Yeah, that’s pretty much the best we can do without being privy to the business strategies of the various companies who don’t yet have a big presence on iOS. I think most of us will admit to how notoriously hard it has been to predict what will make it to iOS and what won’t.

Even those that are privy to info in bigger companies will likely be under some form of NDA. And yeah…I was one of a handful who believed that Logic would never come to iPad

The sad thing about the last sentence - there are jerks here still claiming that Logic Pro for iPad has not been released, it just GarageBand Pro...

mjcouche

Questions again: which would you pick, Bechstein, Petrof, or Bluethner?

ErrkaPetti

@mjcouche said:
Questions again: which would you pick, Bechstein, Petrof, or Bluethner?

Petrof first and then YC5…