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Moog - 8 New Apps Released - Moogerfooger FX & Bundle Available

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  • @Wrlds2ndBstGeoshredr said:

    @sigma79 said:

    @HotStrange said:

    Koshiba is the Murf killer. More control, more steps, and three dollars cheaper.

    One of the selling points for the Moog’s is the cv control and being able to use them in tandem. But yeah Koshiba is great. Same for the 2 free AudioModern apps, Perforator, and Looperator too.

    The "CV" feature is the least impressive aspect of these apps to me. Pretty much all decent AU fx apps allow for interconnection. It's easy in AUM. I don't see anything novel about that in the Moog apps other than the in-app dropdown menus. What I usually look for in the Moog apps is a unique sound, and they nearly always deliver.

    But the CV control is massively high res, not just the 128 steps of midi, so it actually makes sense.

  • i wonder how they look on a iphone se in cubasis3.

  • @Wrlds2ndBstGeoshredr said:

    @sigma79 said:

    @HotStrange said:

    Koshiba is the Murf killer. More control, more steps, and three dollars cheaper.

    One of the selling points for the Moog’s is the cv control and being able to use them in tandem. But yeah Koshiba is great. Same for the 2 free AudioModern apps, Perforator, and Looperator too.

    The "CV" feature is the least impressive aspect of these apps to me. Pretty much all decent AU fx apps allow for interconnection. It's easy in AUM. I don't see anything novel about that in the Moog apps other than the in-app dropdown menus. What I usually look for in the Moog apps is a unique sound, and they nearly always deliver.

    I think the CV feature is more useful on the desktop, where interconnectivity is harder. Probably handy in Logic for iPad too.

  • @Wrlds2ndBstGeoshredr said:

    @sigma79 said:

    @HotStrange said:

    Koshiba is the Murf killer. More control, more steps, and three dollars cheaper.

    One of the selling points for the Moog’s is the cv control and being able to use them in tandem. But yeah Koshiba is great. Same for the 2 free AudioModern apps, Perforator, and Looperator too.

    The "CV" feature is the least impressive aspect of these apps to me. Pretty much all decent AU fx apps allow for interconnection. It's easy in AUM. I don't see anything novel about that in the Moog apps other than the in-app dropdown menus. What I usually look for in the Moog apps is a unique sound, and they nearly always deliver.

    For me the physicality and interface of them is great and being able to use one to modulate the other to modulate the other, etc etc is super cool and allows for some really fun and crazy sounds. Sure you can load up some LFOs to do that, but it’s not the same experience and won’t necessarily equate to the same results.

  • @Gavinski said:

    @HotStrange said:

    @Wrlds2ndBstGeoshredr said:

    @sigma79 said:

    @Slush said:
    While munching on a sandwich and some soup, a first 10 minutes testing the Moog MF-105S MuRF (no not Smurf). Preset surfing and some fiddling with the settings. I put it behind the MF-104S delay, see vid above. These are super interesting quality fx, just love it!

    Cheers Slush.

    Would you swap the delay for mantis ( or would you swap the delay and murf ) for mantis.

    Although murf isnt a mantis and the delay isnt the same.

    If you own saturn.

    Do you think murf plus moog saturation.

    Is a low cpu saturn.

    Do the bands of murf filter distortion.

    Like if saturn bands are for distortion.

    Edit.

    Dont worry. The app combo wouldnt be a saturn. Which is generally EQ and not filter, Id say.

    Koshiba is the Murf killer. More control, more steps, and three dollars cheaper.

    One of the selling points for the Moog’s is the cv control and being able to use them in tandem. But yeah Koshiba is great. Same for the 2 free AudioModern apps, Perforator, and Looperator too.

    The only really problem with Koshiba, and all the iceworks apps actually, is that the filters don't sound that great.

    Yeah not the best filters out there but Kronecker is a beautiful thing.

  • @HotStrange said:

    @Wrlds2ndBstGeoshredr said:

    @sigma79 said:

    @HotStrange said:

    Koshiba is the Murf killer. More control, more steps, and three dollars cheaper.

    One of the selling points for the Moog’s is the cv control and being able to use them in tandem. But yeah Koshiba is great. Same for the 2 free AudioModern apps, Perforator, and Looperator too.

    The "CV" feature is the least impressive aspect of these apps to me. Pretty much all decent AU fx apps allow for interconnection. It's easy in AUM. I don't see anything novel about that in the Moog apps other than the in-app dropdown menus. What I usually look for in the Moog apps is a unique sound, and they nearly always deliver.

    For me the physicality and interface of them is great and being able to use one to modulate the other to modulate the other, etc etc is super cool and allows for some really fun and crazy sounds. Sure you can load up some LFOs to do that, but it’s not the same experience and won’t necessarily equate to the same results.

    Using a regular lfo will definitely NOT yield the same results on things like filter sweeps @Wrlds2ndBstGeoshredr - try using the cv feature in the Moog apps to modulate filter resonance of the moogerfooger filter with the lfo of another moogerfooger. Slow rate. Now try with a regular lfo, also slow rate. Using a regular lfo you will clearly hear stepping. Not when using the moogerfooger cv function. So actually this whole cv thing is easily one of the best things about these Moogerfooger apps, not at all underwhelming!

  • So, actually, would be great to see other devs who have multiple apps incorporate such a feature. Better yet would be if AUM gets its own apematrix style internal hi-res modulation system ASAP! @j_liljedahl

  • @bygjohn said:
    Hmm. Took the plunge this morning, and after an hour and a half of fiddling with these, TBH I’m a bit disappointed. I’m obviously going to have to watch some tutorials and plough my way through the manuals, so I’m reserving judgement for now, but even the presets seem a bit meh so far. Usually after that amount of time I’d have got at least one usable result, but so far no joy.

    Thanks for mentioning that. I was getting the feeling that the very same thing would happen to me after hearing some of the demos etc. I’ve been there many times before and the price is not inconsiderable. I hate that sinking feeling. I think I’ll pass on this lot at the moment.

  • edited August 2023

    @robosardine said:

    @bygjohn said:
    Hmm. Took the plunge this morning, and after an hour and a half of fiddling with these, TBH I’m a bit disappointed. I’m obviously going to have to watch some tutorials and plough my way through the manuals, so I’m reserving judgement for now, but even the presets seem a bit meh so far. Usually after that amount of time I’d have got at least one usable result, but so far no joy.

    Thanks for mentioning that. I was getting the feeling that the very same thing would happen to me after hearing some of the demos etc. I’ve been there many times before and the price is not inconsiderable. I hate that sinking feeling. I think I’ll pass on this lot at the moment.

    I think the price is great for what’s on offer! I think these are easily up there with the best releases of the year by a long shot. What’s not to like?

  • @Gavinski said:

    @HotStrange said:

    @Wrlds2ndBstGeoshredr said:

    @sigma79 said:

    @HotStrange said:

    Koshiba is the Murf killer. More control, more steps, and three dollars cheaper.

    One of the selling points for the Moog’s is the cv control and being able to use them in tandem. But yeah Koshiba is great. Same for the 2 free AudioModern apps, Perforator, and Looperator too.

    The "CV" feature is the least impressive aspect of these apps to me. Pretty much all decent AU fx apps allow for interconnection. It's easy in AUM. I don't see anything novel about that in the Moog apps other than the in-app dropdown menus. What I usually look for in the Moog apps is a unique sound, and they nearly always deliver.

    For me the physicality and interface of them is great and being able to use one to modulate the other to modulate the other, etc etc is super cool and allows for some really fun and crazy sounds. Sure you can load up some LFOs to do that, but it’s not the same experience and won’t necessarily equate to the same results.

    Using a regular lfo will definitely NOT yield the same results on things like filter sweeps @Wrlds2ndBstGeoshredr - try using the cv feature in the Moog apps to modulate filter resonance of the moogerfooger filter with the lfo of another moogerfooger. Slow rate. Now try with a regular lfo, also slow rate. Using a regular lfo you will clearly hear stepping. Not when using the moogerfooger cv function. So actually this whole cv thing is easily one of the best things about these Moogerfooger apps, not at all underwhelming!

    Exactly what I was getting at. You can do the same thing with an LFO in a general sense but it won’t feel the same or yield the same results. Definitely think the CV functionality is one of the highlights.

  • @HotStrange said:

    @Gavinski said:

    @HotStrange said:

    @Wrlds2ndBstGeoshredr said:

    @sigma79 said:

    @HotStrange said:

    Koshiba is the Murf killer. More control, more steps, and three dollars cheaper.

    One of the selling points for the Moog’s is the cv control and being able to use them in tandem. But yeah Koshiba is great. Same for the 2 free AudioModern apps, Perforator, and Looperator too.

    The "CV" feature is the least impressive aspect of these apps to me. Pretty much all decent AU fx apps allow for interconnection. It's easy in AUM. I don't see anything novel about that in the Moog apps other than the in-app dropdown menus. What I usually look for in the Moog apps is a unique sound, and they nearly always deliver.

    For me the physicality and interface of them is great and being able to use one to modulate the other to modulate the other, etc etc is super cool and allows for some really fun and crazy sounds. Sure you can load up some LFOs to do that, but it’s not the same experience and won’t necessarily equate to the same results.

    Using a regular lfo will definitely NOT yield the same results on things like filter sweeps @Wrlds2ndBstGeoshredr - try using the cv feature in the Moog apps to modulate filter resonance of the moogerfooger filter with the lfo of another moogerfooger. Slow rate. Now try with a regular lfo, also slow rate. Using a regular lfo you will clearly hear stepping. Not when using the moogerfooger cv function. So actually this whole cv thing is easily one of the best things about these Moogerfooger apps, not at all underwhelming!

    Exactly what I was getting at. You can do the same thing with an LFO in a general sense but it won’t feel the same or yield the same results. Definitely think the CV functionality is one of the highlights.

    Massively!

  • The GarageBandGuide:

  • @robosardine said:

    @bygjohn said:
    Hmm. Took the plunge this morning, and after an hour and a half of fiddling with these, TBH I’m a bit disappointed. I’m obviously going to have to watch some tutorials and plough my way through the manuals, so I’m reserving judgement for now, but even the presets seem a bit meh so far. Usually after that amount of time I’d have got at least one usable result, but so far no joy.

    Thanks for mentioning that. I was getting the feeling that the very same thing would happen to me after hearing some of the demos etc. I’ve been there many times before and the price is not inconsiderable. I hate that sinking feeling. I think I’ll pass on this lot at the moment.

    Actually, having watched Doug’s demo video, and the Mylar Melodies one, I’m hoping my initial impressions are wrong, and it was just a frustrating first session (in non-ideal conditions).

    The CV interconnectivity etc should make these right up my sonic street.

  • @HotStrange said:

    @robosardine said:

    @bygjohn said:
    Hmm. Took the plunge this morning, and after an hour and a half of fiddling with these, TBH I’m a bit disappointed. I’m obviously going to have to watch some tutorials and plough my way through the manuals, so I’m reserving judgement for now, but even the presets seem a bit meh so far. Usually after that amount of time I’d have got at least one usable result, but so far no joy.

    Thanks for mentioning that. I was getting the feeling that the very same thing would happen to me after hearing some of the demos etc. I’ve been there many times before and the price is not inconsiderable. I hate that sinking feeling. I think I’ll pass on this lot at the moment.

    I think the price is great for what’s on offer! I think these are easily up there with the best releases of the year by a long shot. What’s not to like?

    The amount of apps I already have is mind boggling - and probably ridiculous in some peoples eyes. So part of it is the old one about making the most out of the apps I have. Also if I ask myself - would I buy these apps having seen the demos but not having read the threads? And the answer would be no. So I really don’t have a strong desire to own them anyway.
    Having said that (talk about instant hypocrisy 😀) - I’m thinking about investing in Magic Delay even though its £25 - not too far off the price of this bundle, but I think I might get more use out of it.

  • @robosardine said:
    ... Also if I ask myself - would I buy these apps having seen the demos but not having read the threads? And the answer would be no. So I really don’t have a strong desire to own them anyway.

    I've got the exact same feeling 😊... so I think I'll let the hype fade away from the first page of the forum 😅

  • More quick and dirty noodling with the Moogs with Delay, Clusterfux and MuRF is action on all sorts of stuff. A little of these goes a long away. Still have to test how they work when one modulates the other. Too little time.

    Hey c’mon guys, post your testdrives, don’t have to be perfect!

  • @Slush said:
    More quick and dirty noodling with the Moogs with Delay, Clusterfux and MuRF is action on all sorts of stuff. A little of these goes a long away. Still have to test how they work when one modulates the other. Too little time.

    Hey c’mon guys, post your testdrives, don’t have to be perfect!

    Sounding good Slush!

  • @Gavinski said:
    So, actually, would be great to see other devs who have multiple apps incorporate such a feature. Better yet would be if AUM gets its own apematrix style internal hi-res modulation system ASAP! @j_liljedahl

    Would love to! Let’s hope Moog decides to open up their Virtual CV technology to other devs :) (Ping @GeertBevin )

  • @Gavinski said:

    @Slush said:
    More quick and dirty noodling with the Moogs with Delay, Clusterfux and MuRF is action on all sorts of stuff. A little of these goes a long away. Still have to test how they work when one modulates the other. Too little time.

    Hey c’mon guys, post your testdrives, don’t have to be perfect!

    Sounding good Slush!

    Thanks Gavin, having a blast with these fx!

  • Yeah the CV feature is great, would be even better if it talked to the host more, eg showed showed which AUM track and node the app is on, the lettering system works but becomes more difficult when you have lots of the plugins going.

  • @Carnbot said:
    Yeah the CV feature is great, would be even better if it talked to the host more, eg showed showed which AUM track and node the app is on, the lettering system works but becomes more difficult when you have lots of the plugins going.

    Yes totally. I ended up using node colour coding in aum to help with this.

  • @Slush said:
    More quick and dirty noodling with the Moogs with Delay, Clusterfux and MuRF is action on all sorts of stuff. A little of these goes a long away. Still have to test how they work when one modulates the other. Too little time.

    Hey c’mon guys, post your testdrives, don’t have to be perfect!

    Dope!

  • @Stuntman_mike said:

    @Slush said:
    More quick and dirty noodling with the Moogs with Delay, Clusterfux and MuRF is action on all sorts of stuff. A little of these goes a long away. Still have to test how they work when one modulates the other. Too little time.

    Hey c’mon guys, post your testdrives, don’t have to be perfect!

    Dope!

    B)

  • @Gavinski said:

    @Wrlds2ndBstGeoshredr said:

    @sigma79 said:

    @HotStrange said:

    Koshiba is the Murf killer. More control, more steps, and three dollars cheaper.

    One of the selling points for the Moog’s is the cv control and being able to use them in tandem. But yeah Koshiba is great. Same for the 2 free AudioModern apps, Perforator, and Looperator too.

    The "CV" feature is the least impressive aspect of these apps to me. Pretty much all decent AU fx apps allow for interconnection. It's easy in AUM. I don't see anything novel about that in the Moog apps other than the in-app dropdown menus. What I usually look for in the Moog apps is a unique sound, and they nearly always deliver.

    But the CV control is massively high res, not just the 128 steps of midi, so it actually makes sense.

    Thanks, that’s interesting.

  • @Gavinski said:

    @HotStrange said:

    @Wrlds2ndBstGeoshredr said:

    @sigma79 said:

    @HotStrange said:

    Koshiba is the Murf killer. More control, more steps, and three dollars cheaper.

    One of the selling points for the Moog’s is the cv control and being able to use them in tandem. But yeah Koshiba is great. Same for the 2 free AudioModern apps, Perforator, and Looperator too.

    The "CV" feature is the least impressive aspect of these apps to me. Pretty much all decent AU fx apps allow for interconnection. It's easy in AUM. I don't see anything novel about that in the Moog apps other than the in-app dropdown menus. What I usually look for in the Moog apps is a unique sound, and they nearly always deliver.

    For me the physicality and interface of them is great and being able to use one to modulate the other to modulate the other, etc etc is super cool and allows for some really fun and crazy sounds. Sure you can load up some LFOs to do that, but it’s not the same experience and won’t necessarily equate to the same results.

    Using a regular lfo will definitely NOT yield the same results on things like filter sweeps @Wrlds2ndBstGeoshredr - try using the cv feature in the Moog apps to modulate filter resonance of the moogerfooger filter with the lfo of another moogerfooger. Slow rate. Now try with a regular lfo, also slow rate. Using a regular lfo you will clearly hear stepping. Not when using the moogerfooger cv function. So actually this whole cv thing is easily one of the best things about these Moogerfooger apps, not at all underwhelming!

    Wild. I will have to try that.

  • @HotStrange said:

    @Gavinski said:

    @HotStrange said:

    @Wrlds2ndBstGeoshredr said:

    @sigma79 said:

    @HotStrange said:

    Koshiba is the Murf killer. More control, more steps, and three dollars cheaper.

    One of the selling points for the Moog’s is the cv control and being able to use them in tandem. But yeah Koshiba is great. Same for the 2 free AudioModern apps, Perforator, and Looperator too.

    The "CV" feature is the least impressive aspect of these apps to me. Pretty much all decent AU fx apps allow for interconnection. It's easy in AUM. I don't see anything novel about that in the Moog apps other than the in-app dropdown menus. What I usually look for in the Moog apps is a unique sound, and they nearly always deliver.

    For me the physicality and interface of them is great and being able to use one to modulate the other to modulate the other, etc etc is super cool and allows for some really fun and crazy sounds. Sure you can load up some LFOs to do that, but it’s not the same experience and won’t necessarily equate to the same results.

    Using a regular lfo will definitely NOT yield the same results on things like filter sweeps @Wrlds2ndBstGeoshredr - try using the cv feature in the Moog apps to modulate filter resonance of the moogerfooger filter with the lfo of another moogerfooger. Slow rate. Now try with a regular lfo, also slow rate. Using a regular lfo you will clearly hear stepping. Not when using the moogerfooger cv function. So actually this whole cv thing is easily one of the best things about these Moogerfooger apps, not at all underwhelming!

    Exactly what I was getting at. You can do the same thing with an LFO in a general sense but it won’t feel the same or yield the same results. Definitely think the CV functionality is one of the highlights.

    Now you’ve got me excited to find out if my ears are up to hearing the difference.

  • @Slush said:
    More quick and dirty noodling with the Moogs with Delay, Clusterfux and MuRF is action on all sorts of stuff. A little of these goes a long away. Still have to test how they work when one modulates the other. Too little time.

    Hey c’mon guys, post your testdrives, don’t have to be perfect!

    What are the inputs? I saw Lagrange, but didn’t recognize the drum app.

  • @Wrlds2ndBstGeoshredr said:

    @Slush said:
    More quick and dirty noodling with the Moogs with Delay, Clusterfux and MuRF is action on all sorts of stuff. A little of these goes a long away. Still have to test how they work when one modulates the other. Too little time.

    Hey c’mon guys, post your testdrives, don’t have to be perfect!

    What are the inputs? I saw Lagrange, but didn’t recognize the drum app.

    Well, the drum sequencer is octachron. Not sure what he's using for drum sounds

  • @Slush said:
    More quick and dirty noodling with the Moogs with Delay, Clusterfux and MuRF is action on all sorts of stuff. A little of these goes a long away. Still have to test how they work when one modulates the other. Too little time.

    Hey c’mon guys, post your testdrives, don’t have to be perfect!

    That’s so nice… very sharp and those Moog FX are working a treat. Thanks for sharing.

  • @Wrlds2ndBstGeoshredr said:

    @Slush said:
    More quick and dirty noodling with the Moogs with Delay, Clusterfux and MuRF is action on all sorts of stuff. A little of these goes a long away. Still have to test how they work when one modulates the other. Too little time.

    Hey c’mon guys, post your testdrives, don’t have to be perfect!

    What are the inputs? I saw Lagrange, but didn’t recognize the drum app.

    I can see a portion of FAC Drumkit in the video… so thinking that may be the source of the drums sequenced by Octachron.

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