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I see, so wavetable, that’s interesting too.
Prices are good, especially for the bundle. I only got the delay, since that’s the one I know I’ll use. It sounds nice — no surprise — but I wish it displayed time in milliseconds or note fractions.
Definitely - although I don’t want to learn to patch Model 15, it has lots of incredible preset packs
Yes... In general the lack of visual feedback on these is something I find a bit annoying. I mean, emulate, yes, but adapt and evolve too, to incorporate the powers of having an actual screen at your disposal!
About the sidechaining feature, the manual says:
Your host software will see the Side Chain Input as an additional input to the plug-in, which you can connect to the audio source of your choice.
Sees it where? For example in AUM, if I have a Moogerfooger on an instrument track as an fx, and then select sidechain left or right as modulator, nothing happens.
Works perfectly if you do it right
Load the MF-102S (Ring Modulator) as a regular effect on one track...
On track you wish to feed the side-chain channel from open and add the effect as a 'Multi-bus Audio Unit Instance' (all loaded plug-ins supporting side-chain will pop up in this list) and select the multi-out instance of MF-102S...
This is the way side-chaining has always worked in AUM...
Oh, I see now it is multi-bus capable, sweet!
I was thinking I only wanted the MuRF, but bought the filter and it was so good that it tipped me over to get the bundle...no regrets because I feel like they're even better experience than the desktop apps, which seem to have a lower resolution UI.
I would say for me the low pass Filter, MuRF and Delay are the top three but it's close because when they are all together they create a really nice overall sound design experience. I can see why the hardware pedals are so popular
I’m tempted to purchase the bundle but I have so many delays, distortions and a couple filters that I’m hesitant. I know Moog surely has its own sound but I’m wondering if I really need these. Anyone else felt like this and pulled the trigger with no regrets? I’m mean 30 bucks is nothing but still….hmmm
If I was only getting 1 it would definitely be the murf, no question
I also have many delays, but I love this one, very warm and analog. The MuRF is indeed a good choice as well.
So, if the promotion ends soon you’ll attempt to spite Moog by then never buying them thereafter?
Yeah, that’ll show ‘em!
When does the introductory price for the bundle end, does anyone know? Thank you.
got the MF-104S hoping for an auv3 MemoryMan sound. i'm quite disappointed. mainly there is no significant softening of the high frequencies over multiple echoes with high feedback. this is not what i expect from a bbd emulation at all. it's quite different from the behavior of AudioThing Mantis.
i'm also bummed at the arbitrarily short max delay time, unlike Mantis. wish there was a mode between the dark legacy & bright analog. and the knobs are hard to read. not impressed overall & really puzzled by the feedback behavior. does a real MF-104 work like this?
No, that’s not what I meant or said. I didn’t say I would ‘never’ be buying them just that I couldn’t bring myself to purchase them at a much higher price if the introductory offer suddenly ended. Rather, I would wait until the bundle was on sale again before purchasing even if that was not until the end of the year. Nothing to do with spite or ‘getting back at’ Moog, purely to do with my economic situation.
This is what @MoogMusicInc have said in this thread-
“We want to make sure there’s plenty of time for folks to take advantage of this offer. Our introductory specials are typically in effect for one to two months following the product’s announcement, unless otherwise indicated. The end date will be shared to our social channels and via email—if you're not already signed up for our email list, this is the best way to keep up with Moog specials and news.
❤️ your friends at Moog”
As such, I’ve signed up to the email list!
The delay is definitely one of the least impressive of this bunch imo... Very limited compared to some of the great vintage delays that gsi and AudioThing have brought out recently.
They said usually intro sales last a month or 2 and if you sign up for their email updates they will warn when the sale is coming near to ending. Plenty of time left I think.
Maybe @Poppadocrock could add the sale end info in the thread title since it keeps getting asked repeatedly.
Thanks @Robin2 @Gavinski
Thanks for your honest feedback bangzero, we appreciate it and take this into account for further updates and future products.
We were wondering if you had tried the different settings on the MF-104S back panel. In particular the Legacy Feedback Mode reduces the high frequencies, also the Legacy, Analog and Modern Tone settings might provide you with the dark legacy and bright analog sounds you're looking for.
❤️ your friends at Moog
Yeah delay screams for improvement, its not imitating bbd behaviour at all. Legacy is super dark (unusable in practice), modern is too bright and analog is ..strange. Super short delay time. No tap tempo. And my original post as I see was deleted probably because of harsh language.
I love to tweak Model D and Animoog but I agree on Model 15. It’s one of the best sounding iOS synths, imo but one of the ones I like to tweak the least. I’ll do some minor adjustments to take a preset exactly where I want it but I can’t stand to make full patches on it for some reason. I think the scrolling makes it hard for my ADHD brain to fully grasp what I’m wanting to do lol I meant to buy a couple packs for it during the last sale and it slipped my mind. Definitely need to do it soon. I think I’ve only bought 1 so far.
As @bygjohn mentioned, it’s Wavetable based but it can sound very lush and warm, imo. And the UI is just so weird and unique, yet still implemented well, that it begs to be tweaked.
I didn’t really need them at all but purchased anyway and absolutely have no regrets. Up there with my top iOS purchases of the year. The CV connections between apps make them more unique than just another bundle of effects. And some, like Clusterflux, have a pretty unique take on classic effects. Kinda reminds me of the Bleass stuff with the extra modulation you get with each one.
Oh yeah I find iVCS3 waaaay easier. I’ve been using semi modular synths for many years and Model 15 still leaves me scratching my head. The scrolling interface doesn’t help either.
aha! with Legacy Feedback Mode on the MF-104S gets into the BBD territory i'm interested in. sorry to have missed that and thanks for your help @MoogMusicInc.
They’re probably my best purchase this year. So fun to tweak and record the happy accidents with a lot of functionality you don’t have with the hardware.
It’s up there for me as well. Really really good plugins.
Same, the bundle is up there for me with pianoteq as easily one of the best releases of the year. Has certainly given me a lot more joy than logic did (I've dropped my subscription to logic and doubt I'll subscribe again until there are some major updates. Don't really need it, wasn't really using it, didn't particularly enjoy using it either)
Oh same here. Funny enough though, I’ve played around with Logic most of the day today and I’ve warmed up to it quite I bit. I was working on a project there and in Zenbeats and actually found Logic the more stable of the 2. And for what I want (mastering stems from AUM and clip launching) it may be the best on iOS due to the mix busses and remix effects and sheer amount of loops. I may be sticking with Logic after all 🤦🏻♂️ gotta delete some apps though because that + the 2 PSP expansions has maxed me out lol