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Haha I had that same thought last night. Man what I wouldn’t give to have iWavestation and iM1 as AUV3s. I still use them because I love them too much but that’s one of my biggest wishlist items on iOS.
Hell at this point I’d be happy if AudioKit or GM recreated it lol
Aha! So the 3gig library is compressed into that 480mb? Thanks Uncle D!
Totally agree about those 2 synths. I love ‘em
Agree, the AudioKit fame of being unstable is definitely over.
Same here. Korg has the Triton IAP in Module (which to be fair sounds incredible) it just lacks the parameter controls. I’m wondering if they’re planning on just doing the same with those 2? Couple hundred presets in Module and that’s it.
Which is better than nothing but iWavestation is so unique and cool and the randomize function is one of the best on iOS. For me it has been anyway.
Not to be pedantic, but I think a big caveat is in order here. AudioKit is a library / framework for developing music apps only. Apps that use it can be made by anyone, and the quality can be terrible or great depending on the developer.
It gets really, really confusing when the name AudioKit is mentioned. It's easy to think that AudioKit is a company that produces all these apps. It isn't that simple. For instance, these "King of..." apps are developed solo by Matt (correct me if I'm wrong?), and he is the one that has painstakingly improved stability of these new apps. I'm sure that the AudioKit libraries have improved vastly, but that's only a part of the picture.
I guarantee you that it's still possible quite easily to produce crap apps with AudioKit. In fact, that's one of the downsides of making it easier for hacks like me who only know enough to be dangerous to think they can make awesome apps. It's also one of the pitfalls of the ambiguous "branding" surrounding that name.
Take the infamous AR-909 timing thing. That was completely out of Matt's or anyone else at AudioKit Pro's control. Believe me, if they had the rights and access to the source to fix it they would have. The resulting sh*t will stick to the AudioKit brand for a long-long time.
I've gone on too long. My point is, all we can really say for sure is that apps from @AnalogMatthew are very unlikely to repeat the instability pattern. Apps associated with the term "AudioKit" can still be stable or unstable. Nothing has changed in that regard.
(Caveat 2: The above post is from my limited understanding, there could be vast inaccuracies. )
Oh wow, I’m in love! So many great and inspiring sounds… Thank you!
@analog_matt I seem to be missing presets. Can’t find the Spidericemidas and Electronisounds sets, both of which contain great patches.
I really agree with the general sentiment and believe that it’s “dangerous” to associate the AudioKit framework with the quality of the apps produced using it.
HOWEVER…
I have no idea if @AnalogMatthew is or not the actual developer, but the fact is that LE04 | AR-909 Drum Machine is in fact developed by whoever has rights over the AudioKit Pro developer profile in the App Store (together with the other King Of…, VHS Synth, Jam with Jordan and so on) so it is not a case of a mere random developer using the framework, or at least I have not seen so far any framework that forces you to deploy apps under a specific developer identity.
Still, it is undeniable that the quality of the latest releases has been consistently top notch in terms of stability and sound.
There is something quite special about this app.
Agreed. I’ve only had a small amount of time with it so far but man it sounds absolutely brilliant. Sound quality on this one is just superb.
I admit to being biased about poor quality with anything that says "AudioKit". Happy to be proven wrong, and happy to watch out more for who develops it.
And, yes, the new apps sounds great so far!
To answer previous question, D1 got the point of "why bother trying to open this thing up" anymore?
And there has been much discussion in this thread already about those issues having been addressed.
Not exactly. Developing and publishing are two very different things. Yes AR-909 is published by AudioKit Pro. No, they did not have sufficient control of the otherwise independent developer of it and the source code that they could force the developer to fix the problems. I'm confident that I'm right about this, though I won't go into details as to how I know this. It's not my place to do so.
There is no indication of "forcing" anyone to do anything here. Many apps published by AudioKit Pro were partnerships whereby AudioKit Pro branded and marketed the software made by otherwise independent developers. Agreements in such situations vary and affect the influence the publisher can exert.
That co-branding effort seems to be on the decrease. I think it's safe to say there's a much better probability today that apps published by AudioKit Pro will be high quality. But there's no guarantee. They could agree to publish something that seems great but has problems. One would hope that they now only publish that which they have enough control over to assure problems get fixed.
Yay! And we know that we can credit @AnalogMatthew 100% for that with these releases ... along with the unseen dedication and hard work of the developers of the underlying FREE frameworks that help to enable, but don't guarantee, that stability.
We all were there, it was very frustrating so I’m so relieved to have this new version
Honestly after hearing a lot of these presets, I deleted iM-1. Takes a lot of Synth to make me do that.
Holy smokes, it's not even that stupid of a face. I think it could pass as a sincere expression of being surprised or startled in another context. If that face was the most upsetting thing I saw on the internet today, I'd count that as a win. Your "I'm about to lose my shit" response is worrisome though, although perhaps it's meant as a joke. Putting ambient on can help to relax, if I may offer a well-intentioned suggestio
Not sure if you got an answer yet, but you press the cog wheel in the top right corner next to info to access the page with the 3rd LFO, flanger, vibrato, etc. I also struggled to find it again after accidentally stumbling upon it, at first I thought I had found another hidden secret page à la Synth One (see video)
Hey @AnalogMatthew - you should probably edit the OP to include the App Store link now that it's available. I know someone posted it later on, but it should be in the first post.
Hey @Kashi and @el_bo - the tag is @AnalogMatthew now. The @ analog_matt tag is outdated.
No way! So you really love this app huh?
I gotta spend some more time with it to see if it can compete but since I still occasionally use Gadget I doubt I’ll delete any of them. Just reeeally need Korg to get off their asses here 😂
Wow, I got the VIP edition!
Ah! No, no one had answered so thanks!
And thanks @wim for pointing out the tag change - I just copied what the person in the previous post had done!
Holy feckeroli this is good!
This is really good and a nice improvement over the D1 which was sitting unused due to its instability. When I compared both, the D1 patches varied from sounding the same to very different. The difference in architecture I can see is:
The new one has better filters. They sound warmer and less digital.
The distortion FX is now much more in your face. This makes some patches sound better, like Sigur Boss but others that used it for slight saturation don’t work so well.
The bitcrusher sounds different.
The previous version could apply each LFO’s to up to 15 targets at the same time. The new version has 2 targets for each LFO but has more choice of destinations. So patches that used lots of LFO modulation won’t sound the same.
The old version I think the LFO’s might have been a bit broken when I compared them. Turning down the amount on the new ones can get the patches more similar where they have extreme modulation. I haven’t quite worked it out.
The old version had a harmonic filter for each layer, the new one has a shared filter.
But if you have a favourite patch on the old one that sounds different you can probably tweak it to make it similar.
And can we get the Spidericemidas bank back please.
Please check my description of the slightly mysterious way the top controls operate. I'm having trouble getting used to tapping Main to hide the preset selection menu.
happy about this new version. love the sound!
when i compare the presets to the old D1 it feels like the new presets are kind of limited or compressed. is there a way to tweak that? would love to get some more headroom breathing for some sounds.
still like the old D1, too. because it has those microtonal features.
So, after you open it in standalone it uncompresses the data and then uses 3 gig of space on your iPad..?
It’s using 488.6MB on my iPad. The samples must be in m4a