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Moog Mariana Bass Synthesizer

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  • NeuMNeuM

    @jebni said:
    Maybe it’s just me, but the presets in the booster packs sound way better than the ones it ships with. ☹️

    So why the sad emoji? Did you buy the booster packs?

  • Nathi94Nathi94

    @ahallam said:

    @Nathi94 said:
    Has someone tried it with a basic iPad 8/9/10 and how the cpu is? I guess it is heavy like other Moog synths but hopefully not even more cpu hungry.

    On my iPad 7, 2 instances hit DSP usage of ~80% at a buffer of 2048 in AUM.

    It’s closer to ~70% in Cubasis 3 with multicore on max. I can load 3 instances in Cubasis, but only have two of them playing.

    A lot of the presets sound really good layered with each other, but I’ll be printing to audio a lot.

    Thx, that’s what I feared. Have to think about it if it’s worth it for me.

  • HotStrangeHotStrange

    @Gavinski said:

    @Samu said:

    @Gavinski said:

    @Nathi94 said:
    Has someone tried it with a basic iPad 8/9/10 and how the cpu is? I guess it is heavy like other Moog synths but hopefully not even more cpu hungry.

    With a buffer of 256 in AUM, I can only open 4 instances on my M1 iPad before I get crackling. A single instance takes up about 30% dsp…so yeah, it is a pretty heavy plugin.

    Too bad AUM doesn't support multi-core processing as I can easily push 10+ instances in LogicPro for iPad without it even starting to sweat...

    Yeah, definitely…can’t remember whether @j_liljedahl has mentioned that multicore will come, but I’d imagine that soon it will be sth ppl expect rather than a ‘would be nice to have’ thing.

    This would also be a net positive to iOS as a whole as it would encourage and allow developers to make bigger synths and other plugins that iOS previously couldn’t handle (or at least handle as well).

  • robosardinerobosardine

    @robosardine said:
    This has two synths to make your patches with. Is it possible to sync the filter knobs so that if you turn one - they both turn together giving you an ‘overall’ filter twist?

    This has got to be a tap in.

  • jebnijebni

    @NeuM said:

    @jebni said:
    Maybe it’s just me, but the presets in the booster packs sound way better than the ones it ships with. ☹️

    So why the sad emoji? Did you buy the booster packs?

    To me it feels a bit as if they deliberately put some shit presets in there to ensure we buy the IAPs. I’m pretty poor at the moment.

  • johnfromberkeleyjohnfromberkeley

    @HotStrange said:

    @johnfromberkeley said:
    Just came here to say that I think Moog was especially generous with the factory presets. Well I create my own patches, I like demoing presets to see what a synth is capable of.

    Agreed. I may even end up using some of the factory presets because they’re so good. Maybe with a few minor tweaks.

    They’re really is nothing wrong with that, and sometimes it’s a great strategy. Good preset designers are often seeking out and imagined ideal. It’s a composite sound of a sound they’ve heard before. In the same way you’d pick up a Stradivarius, it’s fun to pick up patches made by people who have a deep well to draw on in crafting them.

  • HotStrangeHotStrange

    @johnfromberkeley said:

    @HotStrange said:

    @johnfromberkeley said:
    Just came here to say that I think Moog was especially generous with the factory presets. Well I create my own patches, I like demoing presets to see what a synth is capable of.

    Agreed. I may even end up using some of the factory presets because they’re so good. Maybe with a few minor tweaks.

    They’re really is nothing wrong with that, and sometimes it’s a great strategy. Good preset designers are often seeking out and imagined ideal. It’s a composite sound of a sound they’ve heard before. In the same way you’d pick up a Stradivarius, it’s fun to pick up patches made by people who have a deep well to draw on in crafting them.

    Agreed. I mean a lot of people predominantly use presets or even ONLY use presets. I rarely do but sometimes they’re just good enough in their own.

  • CarnbotCarnbot

    @MoogMusicInc Thanks for the great plugin, please can you add to the list of requests to include host AUv3 preset sharing :)

  • NeuMNeuM

    @jebni said:

    @NeuM said:

    @jebni said:
    Maybe it’s just me, but the presets in the booster packs sound way better than the ones it ships with. ☹️

    So why the sad emoji? Did you buy the booster packs?

    To me it feels a bit as if they deliberately put some shit presets in there to ensure we buy the IAPs. I’m pretty poor at the moment.

    Then don't buy the IAP's. Take responsibility for your decisions.

  • HotStrangeHotStrange

    @NeuM said:

    @jebni said:

    @NeuM said:

    @jebni said:
    Maybe it’s just me, but the presets in the booster packs sound way better than the ones it ships with. ☹️

    So why the sad emoji? Did you buy the booster packs?

    To me it feels a bit as if they deliberately put some shit presets in there to ensure we buy the IAPs. I’m pretty poor at the moment.

    Then don't buy the IAP's. Take responsibility for your decisions.

    Lol right? Also it’s a synth with tons of knobs. It’s mostly geared towards making your own or tweaking factory sounds. Not a preset player or ROMpler.

  • jebnijebni

    @NeuM said:

    @jebni said:

    @NeuM said:

    @jebni said:
    Maybe it’s just me, but the presets in the booster packs sound way better than the ones it ships with. ☹️

    So why the sad emoji? Did you buy the booster packs?

    To me it feels a bit as if they deliberately put some shit presets in there to ensure we buy the IAPs. I’m pretty poor at the moment.

    Then don't buy the IAP's. Take responsibility for your decisions.

    Of course. But they’re very tempting. 😜

  • NeuMNeuM

    @jebni said:

    @NeuM said:

    @jebni said:

    @NeuM said:

    @jebni said:
    Maybe it’s just me, but the presets in the booster packs sound way better than the ones it ships with. ☹️

    So why the sad emoji? Did you buy the booster packs?

    To me it feels a bit as if they deliberately put some shit presets in there to ensure we buy the IAPs. I’m pretty poor at the moment.

    Then don't buy the IAP's. Take responsibility for your decisions.

    Of course. But they’re very tempting. 😜

    Then Moog is doing their job right. LOL.

  • SlushSlush

    @robosardine said:
    This has two synths to make your patches with. Is it possible to sync the filter knobs so that if you turn one - they both turn together giving you an ‘overall’ filter twist?

    This. Good suggestion.

  • ronniebronnieb

    @Slush said:

    @robosardine said:
    This has two synths to make your patches with. Is it possible to sync the filter knobs so that if you turn one - they both turn together giving you an ‘overall’ filter twist?

    This. Good suggestion.

    I don’t have Mariana (yet) but I believe there is a constant mod source (or Modwheel if you prefer) you can use to map to both cutoffs?

    It would be a nice UI touch to have something on the front panel to link the cutoffs though!

  • SamuSamu

    @ronnieb said:

    @Slush said:

    @robosardine said:
    This has two synths to make your patches with. Is it possible to sync the filter knobs so that if you turn one - they both turn together giving you an ‘overall’ filter twist?

    This. Good suggestion.

    I don’t have Mariana (yet) but I believe there is a constant mod source (or Modwheel if you prefer) you can use to map to both cutoffs?

    It would be a nice UI touch to have something on the front panel to link the cutoffs though!

    Currently there's options to swap presets between synth 1 & 2 or copy synth 1 to 2 or 2 to 1.
    Being able to temporarily 'link' the two for editing would be quite handy but it could also mess up the other synth completely.

  • frat_housefrat_house

    @HotStrange said:

    @johnfromberkeley said:

    @HotStrange said:

    @johnfromberkeley said:
    Just came here to say that I think Moog was especially generous with the factory presets. Well I create my own patches, I like demoing presets to see what a synth is capable of.

    Agreed. I may even end up using some of the factory presets because they’re so good. Maybe with a few minor tweaks.

    They’re really is nothing wrong with that, and sometimes it’s a great strategy. Good preset designers are often seeking out and imagined ideal. It’s a composite sound of a sound they’ve heard before. In the same way you’d pick up a Stradivarius, it’s fun to pick up patches made by people who have a deep well to draw on in crafting them.

    Agreed. I mean a lot of people predominantly use presets or even ONLY use presets. I rarely do but sometimes they’re just good enough in their own.

    Sometimes the presets just slam so good, like on the Omnichord:

    Plus a bunch of the rap I love was made using Korg Triton presets.

  • gusgranitegusgranite

    Congrats on the release @MoogMusicInc ! It’s getting good feedback across the platforms 👏

  • AltruitAltruit

    Does anyone know if this auv3 translates purchase into M1 Mac’s for use with Ableton… ie buy the cheap one and use inside of Ableton like the other Moog apps?

    Thanks All :) :smile:

  • HarlekinXHarlekinX
    edited December 2023

    @Altruit said:
    Does anyone know if this auv3 translates purchase into M1 Mac’s for use with Ableton… ie buy the cheap one and use inside of Ableton like the other Moog apps?

    Thanks All :) :smile:

    No, you have to buy the desktop version separately.

  • drewinnitdrewinnit

    maybe this has been mentioned, but the modulation details per source window (with Enabled, Bi-polar, Direct Amount, etc settings) can't seem to be opened with the Apple Pencil. requires me to use my finger...is that the same for everyone? kinda annoying

  • Robin2Robin2

    @drewinnit said:
    maybe this has been mentioned, but the modulation details per source window (with Enabled, Bi-polar, Direct Amount, etc settings) can't seem to be opened with the Apple Pencil. requires me to use my finger...is that the same for everyone? kinda annoying

    No, not just you, same here. Yeah, real shame but will hopefully get fixed.

  • AltruitAltruit

    @HarlekinX said:

    @Altruit said:
    Does anyone know if this auv3 translates purchase into M1 Mac’s for use with Ableton… ie buy the cheap one and use inside of Ableton like the other Moog apps?

    Thanks All :) :smile:

    No, you have to buy the desktop version separately.

    Thanks for that info :)

  • HotStrangeHotStrange

    @frat_house said:

    @HotStrange said:

    @johnfromberkeley said:

    @HotStrange said:

    @johnfromberkeley said:
    Just came here to say that I think Moog was especially generous with the factory presets. Well I create my own patches, I like demoing presets to see what a synth is capable of.

    Agreed. I may even end up using some of the factory presets because they’re so good. Maybe with a few minor tweaks.

    They’re really is nothing wrong with that, and sometimes it’s a great strategy. Good preset designers are often seeking out and imagined ideal. It’s a composite sound of a sound they’ve heard before. In the same way you’d pick up a Stradivarius, it’s fun to pick up patches made by people who have a deep well to draw on in crafting them.

    Agreed. I mean a lot of people predominantly use presets or even ONLY use presets. I rarely do but sometimes they’re just good enough in their own.

    Sometimes the presets just slam so good, like on the Omnichord:

    Plus a bunch of the rap I love was made using Korg Triton presets.

    Love Damon and the Gorillaz! And the Omnichord. Wish I still had mine.

    And yeah those Triton patches are something else. The IAP in Module is worth it if you’re a big fan.

  • GavinskiGavinski

    @frat_house said:

    @HotStrange said:

    @johnfromberkeley said:

    @HotStrange said:

    @johnfromberkeley said:
    Just came here to say that I think Moog was especially generous with the factory presets. Well I create my own patches, I like demoing presets to see what a synth is capable of.

    Agreed. I may even end up using some of the factory presets because they’re so good. Maybe with a few minor tweaks.

    They’re really is nothing wrong with that, and sometimes it’s a great strategy. Good preset designers are often seeking out and imagined ideal. It’s a composite sound of a sound they’ve heard before. In the same way you’d pick up a Stradivarius, it’s fun to pick up patches made by people who have a deep well to draw on in crafting them.

    Agreed. I mean a lot of people predominantly use presets or even ONLY use presets. I rarely do but sometimes they’re just good enough in their own.

    Sometimes the presets just slam so good, like on the Omnichord:

    Plus a bunch of the rap I love was made using Korg Triton presets.

    Absolutely. There are 2 behaviours that really annoy me. One is people insisting that the only valid way to be a musician is through developing traditional musical chops in regard to instrument playing. They tend to look down on people who focus on sound design, texture etc and who aren't interested in or don't know much about traditional music theory.

    The other really annoying type is the opposite one - the sound designers who disparage the 'player' type musician who just wants to play chords and melodies etc and who isn't interested in learning how to make their own synth patches.

    I wish these people would understand that what they are drawn to is just one option among many and that everyone has their own tastes and preferences. Some people just like understanding synths etc from a technical point of view and don't really consider themselves to be any kind of musician, and that's also fine.

    There are so many ways to enjoy interacting with musical tools.

  • hghonhghon

    @Gavinski said:

    @frat_house said:

    @HotStrange said:

    @johnfromberkeley said:

    @HotStrange said:

    @johnfromberkeley said:
    Just came here to say that I think Moog was especially generous with the factory presets. Well I create my own patches, I like demoing presets to see what a synth is capable of.

    Agreed. I may even end up using some of the factory presets because they’re so good. Maybe with a few minor tweaks.

    They’re really is nothing wrong with that, and sometimes it’s a great strategy. Good preset designers are often seeking out and imagined ideal. It’s a composite sound of a sound they’ve heard before. In the same way you’d pick up a Stradivarius, it’s fun to pick up patches made by people who have a deep well to draw on in crafting them.

    Agreed. I mean a lot of people predominantly use presets or even ONLY use presets. I rarely do but sometimes they’re just good enough in their own.

    Sometimes the presets just slam so good, like on the Omnichord:

    Plus a bunch of the rap I love was made using Korg Triton presets.

    Absolutely. There are 2 behaviours that really annoy me. One is people insisting that the only valid way to be a musician is through developing traditional musical chops in regard to instrument playing. They tend to look down on people who focus on sound design, texture etc and who aren't interested in or don't know much about traditional music theory.

    The other really annoying type is the opposite one - the sound designers who disparage the 'player' type musician who just wants to play chords and melodies etc and who isn't interested in learning how to make their own synth patches.

    I wish these people would understand that what they are drawn to is just one option among many and that everyone has their own tastes and preferences. Some people just like understanding synths etc from a technical point of view and don't really consider themselves to be any kind of musician, and that's also fine.

    There are so many ways to enjoy interacting with musical tools.

    Some people just want to judge others and are absolutely sure that their way of doing things is the right way. Nonsense.
    I never use presets because I enjoy designing sounds and patches and it gets my creativity flowing, but if someone can slap a preset and start making music (saving tons of time compared to me 😂) then kudos to them! To each their own man.

  • Fear2StopFear2Stop

    @Gavinski said:

    @frat_house said:

    @HotStrange said:

    @johnfromberkeley said:

    @HotStrange said:

    @johnfromberkeley said:
    Just came here to say that I think Moog was especially generous with the factory presets. Well I create my own patches, I like demoing presets to see what a synth is capable of.

    Agreed. I may even end up using some of the factory presets because they’re so good. Maybe with a few minor tweaks.

    They’re really is nothing wrong with that, and sometimes it’s a great strategy. Good preset designers are often seeking out and imagined ideal. It’s a composite sound of a sound they’ve heard before. In the same way you’d pick up a Stradivarius, it’s fun to pick up patches made by people who have a deep well to draw on in crafting them.

    Agreed. I mean a lot of people predominantly use presets or even ONLY use presets. I rarely do but sometimes they’re just good enough in their own.

    Sometimes the presets just slam so good, like on the Omnichord:

    Plus a bunch of the rap I love was made using Korg Triton presets.

    Absolutely. There are 2 behaviours that really annoy me. One is people insisting that the only valid way to be a musician is through developing traditional musical chops in regard to instrument playing. They tend to look down on people who focus on sound design, texture etc and who aren't interested in or don't know much about traditional music theory.

    The other really annoying type is the opposite one - the sound designers who disparage the 'player' type musician who just wants to play chords and melodies etc and who isn't interested in learning how to make their own synth patches.

    I wish these people would understand that what they are drawn to is just one option among many and that everyone has their own tastes and preferences. Some people just like understanding synths etc from a technical point of view and don't really consider themselves to be any kind of musician, and that's also fine.

    There are so many ways to enjoy interacting with musical tools.

    @Gavinski said:

    @frat_house said:

    @HotStrange said:

    @johnfromberkeley said:

    @HotStrange said:

    @johnfromberkeley said:
    Just came here to say that I think Moog was especially generous with the factory presets. Well I create my own patches, I like demoing presets to see what a synth is capable of.

    Agreed. I may even end up using some of the factory presets because they’re so good. Maybe with a few minor tweaks.

    They’re really is nothing wrong with that, and sometimes it’s a great strategy. Good preset designers are often seeking out and imagined ideal. It’s a composite sound of a sound they’ve heard before. In the same way you’d pick up a Stradivarius, it’s fun to pick up patches made by people who have a deep well to draw on in crafting them.

    Agreed. I mean a lot of people predominantly use presets or even ONLY use presets. I rarely do but sometimes they’re just good enough in their own.

    Sometimes the presets just slam so good, like on the Omnichord:

    Plus a bunch of the rap I love was made using Korg Triton presets.

    Absolutely. There are 2 behaviours that really annoy me. One is people insisting that the only valid way to be a musician is through developing traditional musical chops in regard to instrument playing. They tend to look down on people who focus on sound design, texture etc and who aren't interested in or don't know much about traditional music theory.

    The other really annoying type is the opposite one - the sound designers who disparage the 'player' type musician who just wants to play chords and melodies etc and who isn't interested in learning how to make their own synth patches.

    I wish these people would understand that what they are drawn to is just one option among many and that everyone has their own tastes and preferences. Some people just like understanding synths etc from a technical point of view and don't really consider themselves to be any kind of musician, and that's also fine.

    There are so many ways to enjoy interacting with musical tools.

    Exactly!!!!

  • MadGavMadGav

    @Gavinski said:

    @frat_house said:

    @HotStrange said:

    @johnfromberkeley said:

    @HotStrange said:

    @johnfromberkeley said:
    Just came here to say that I think Moog was especially generous with the factory presets. Well I create my own patches, I like demoing presets to see what a synth is capable of.

    Agreed. I may even end up using some of the factory presets because they’re so good. Maybe with a few minor tweaks.

    They’re really is nothing wrong with that, and sometimes it’s a great strategy. Good preset designers are often seeking out and imagined ideal. It’s a composite sound of a sound they’ve heard before. In the same way you’d pick up a Stradivarius, it’s fun to pick up patches made by people who have a deep well to draw on in crafting them.

    Agreed. I mean a lot of people predominantly use presets or even ONLY use presets. I rarely do but sometimes they’re just good enough in their own.

    Sometimes the presets just slam so good, like on the Omnichord:

    Plus a bunch of the rap I love was made using Korg Triton presets.

    Absolutely. There are 2 behaviours that really annoy me. One is people insisting that the only valid way to be a musician is through developing traditional musical chops in regard to instrument playing. They tend to look down on people who focus on sound design, texture etc and who aren't interested in or don't know much about traditional music theory.

    The other really annoying type is the opposite one - the sound designers who disparage the 'player' type musician who just wants to play chords and melodies etc and who isn't interested in learning how to make their own synth patches.

    I wish these people would understand that what they are drawn to is just one option among many and that everyone has their own tastes and preferences. Some people just like understanding synths etc from a technical point of view and don't really consider themselves to be any kind of musician, and that's also fine.

    There are so many ways to enjoy interacting with musical tools.

    And ironically these 2 types are a match made in heaven!

  • michael_mmichael_m

    @Gavinski said:

    @frat_house said:

    @HotStrange said:

    @johnfromberkeley said:

    @HotStrange said:

    @johnfromberkeley said:
    Just came here to say that I think Moog was especially generous with the factory presets. Well I create my own patches, I like demoing presets to see what a synth is capable of.

    Agreed. I may even end up using some of the factory presets because they’re so good. Maybe with a few minor tweaks.

    They’re really is nothing wrong with that, and sometimes it’s a great strategy. Good preset designers are often seeking out and imagined ideal. It’s a composite sound of a sound they’ve heard before. In the same way you’d pick up a Stradivarius, it’s fun to pick up patches made by people who have a deep well to draw on in crafting them.

    Agreed. I mean a lot of people predominantly use presets or even ONLY use presets. I rarely do but sometimes they’re just good enough in their own.

    Sometimes the presets just slam so good, like on the Omnichord:

    Plus a bunch of the rap I love was made using Korg Triton presets.

    Absolutely. There are 2 behaviours that really annoy me. One is people insisting that the only valid way to be a musician is through developing traditional musical chops in regard to instrument playing. They tend to look down on people who focus on sound design, texture etc and who aren't interested in or don't know much about traditional music theory.

    There’s also a third situation. I have become more careful about giving responses to people when they ask advice and it’s obvious that they don’t play an instrument, as I have had at least a couple of people reply angrily or even resort to name calling. Sometimes people ask questions where the obvious answer is to learn a minimal amount of theory to understand something, or I have suggested that learning some keyboard playing might be beneficial in the long run (based on what they are trying to achieve, not just general advice).

    Resistance to learning something that might benefit them is of course the poster’s choice, but they could just respond and say they don’t want to go down that path rather than respond negatively. Thankfully that has been rare.

  • Rudd_RuseRudd_Ruse
    edited December 2023

    The moog spaghetti and marinara sounds great, but damn I don't think I'll be reaching for it often due to how CPU hungry it is.

    For context: I have the newest ipad pro w/ 16gig ram, specifically for heavy load loopy pro sessions. I have experienced zero issues with crackling, slowdown, buffering, etc with tons of plugins and effect chains/busses UNTIL I introduced an instance of marinara. (This is within a given set with many other things running)

    I really hope they can do a round or two of optimization to shave down the cpu load.

  • craftycuratecraftycurate

    Has anyone tried this on an older device e.g. Demo version consumes 70% CPU in Ableton, so I'm kind of expecting this to bring my iPad Pro 2017 to its knees!

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