XP4N: I made a (photography) thing!

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@sugus said:

Nice! I really like the hint of color in this one ☝️

Dystopian icecream van

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I’ve tested the new mode “Gritty - Metropolis” in the new format. 🤩 It's fine, but unfortunately, it overexposes whites. @brambos Is this intended?

Like everyone else, I shot the clouds. They never get boring for me. 20% of my entire photo library are clouds.

XP4N Gritty - Overexposed

Same shot unprocessed:

XP4N Gritty - Overexposed

Same shot unprocessed:

XP4N Night

XP4N Gritty

Luxthor

@dendy said:

So why don’t you jump at that surfboard, grab the kite, and join the guys?! 😅 Great shot!

brambos

@Luxthor said:
I’ve tested the new mode “Gritty - Metropolis” in the new format. 🤩 It's fine, but unfortunately, it overexposes whites. @brambos Is this intended?

Yes, it's fairly contrasty so you will lose some highlight and shadow detail. If you look what Lomochrome Metropolis is typically used for you'll find more dramatic urban jungle and dimly lit underground stations than landscapes and clouds

(it's also super lo-fi and grainy, so it has a specific "creative purpose", certainly not applicable to everything)

Luxthor

@brambos said:

@Luxthor said:
I’ve tested the new mode “Gritty - Metropolis” in the new format. 🤩 It's fine, but unfortunately, it overexposes whites. @brambos Is this intended?

Yes, it's fairly contrasty so you will lose some highlight and shadow detail. If you look what Lomochrome Metropolis is typically used for you'll find more dramatic urban jungle and dimly lit underground stations than landscapes and clouds

(it's also super lo-fi and grainy, so it has a specific "creative purpose", certainly not applicable to everything)

Yes, but films keep details in white, not burning them.

Example for Lomochrome Metropolis: (not my photo)

brambos

@Luxthor said:

@brambos said:

@Luxthor said:
I’ve tested the new mode “Gritty - Metropolis” in the new format. 🤩 It's fine, but unfortunately, it overexposes whites. @brambos Is this intended?

Yes, it's fairly contrasty so you will lose some highlight and shadow detail. If you look what Lomochrome Metropolis is typically used for you'll find more dramatic urban jungle and dimly lit underground stations than landscapes and clouds

(it's also super lo-fi and grainy, so it has a specific "creative purpose", certainly not applicable to everything)

Yes, but films keep details in white, not burning them.

Example for Lomochrome Metropolis: (not my photo)

That also looks pretty blown out to me in the highlights (the street at the bottom of the image).

rs2000

@brambos said:

@Luxthor said:

@brambos said:

@Luxthor said:
I’ve tested the new mode “Gritty - Metropolis” in the new format. 🤩 It's fine, but unfortunately, it overexposes whites. @brambos Is this intended?

Yes, it's fairly contrasty so you will lose some highlight and shadow detail. If you look what Lomochrome Metropolis is typically used for you'll find more dramatic urban jungle and dimly lit underground stations than landscapes and clouds

(it's also super lo-fi and grainy, so it has a specific "creative purpose", certainly not applicable to everything)

Yes, but films keep details in white, not burning them.

Example for Lomochrome Metropolis: (not my photo)

That also looks pretty blown out to me in the highlights (the street at the bottom of the image).

Well, shadows and highlights compression could be adjustable just like in the audio world (without the time constant - or should it? 😄)

Luxthor

Edit: Here are overexposed regions, and it's obvious that the noise is responsible for it. Everything else is fine, there are preserved details in whites.

brambos

@rs2000 said:

@brambos said:

@Luxthor said:

@brambos said:

@Luxthor said:
I’ve tested the new mode “Gritty - Metropolis” in the new format. 🤩 It's fine, but unfortunately, it overexposes whites. @brambos Is this intended?

Yes, it's fairly contrasty so you will lose some highlight and shadow detail. If you look what Lomochrome Metropolis is typically used for you'll find more dramatic urban jungle and dimly lit underground stations than landscapes and clouds

(it's also super lo-fi and grainy, so it has a specific "creative purpose", certainly not applicable to everything)

Yes, but films keep details in white, not burning them.

Example for Lomochrome Metropolis: (not my photo)

That also looks pretty blown out to me in the highlights (the street at the bottom of the image).

Well, shadows and highlights compression could be adjustable just like in the audio world (without the time constant - or should it? 😄)

That's almost literally what I do. For the contrast I apply a tone curve (see example below) which pushes some gray tones towards darker tones and some tones towards brighter tones, but I don't amplify beyond a clipping point. You'll just lose some of the details in the highlights because the lighter tones get "compressed" to a tighter bandwidth.

Luxthor

@brambos said:

@rs2000 said:

@brambos said:

@Luxthor said:

@brambos said:

@Luxthor said:
I’ve tested the new mode “Gritty - Metropolis” in the new format. 🤩 It's fine, but unfortunately, it overexposes whites. @brambos Is this intended?

Yes, it's fairly contrasty so you will lose some highlight and shadow detail. If you look what Lomochrome Metropolis is typically used for you'll find more dramatic urban jungle and dimly lit underground stations than landscapes and clouds

(it's also super lo-fi and grainy, so it has a specific "creative purpose", certainly not applicable to everything)

Yes, but films keep details in white, not burning them.

Example for Lomochrome Metropolis: (not my photo)

That also looks pretty blown out to me in the highlights (the street at the bottom of the image).

Well, shadows and highlights compression could be adjustable just like in the audio world (without the time constant - or should it? 😄)

That's almost literally what I do. For the contrast I apply a tone curve (see example below) which pushes some gray tones towards darker tones and some tones towards brighter tones, but I don't amplify beyond a clipping point. You'll just lose some of the details in the highlights because the lighter tones get "compressed" to a tighter bandwidth.

Ok, I found the culprit. It’s the noise. Details are still there, but noise (whitest white) actually overexposes. 

brambos

@Luxthor said:

@brambos said:

@rs2000 said:

@brambos said:

@Luxthor said:

@brambos said:

@Luxthor said:
I’ve tested the new mode “Gritty - Metropolis” in the new format. 🤩 It's fine, but unfortunately, it overexposes whites. @brambos Is this intended?

Yes, it's fairly contrasty so you will lose some highlight and shadow detail. If you look what Lomochrome Metropolis is typically used for you'll find more dramatic urban jungle and dimly lit underground stations than landscapes and clouds

(it's also super lo-fi and grainy, so it has a specific "creative purpose", certainly not applicable to everything)

Yes, but films keep details in white, not burning them.

Example for Lomochrome Metropolis: (not my photo)

That also looks pretty blown out to me in the highlights (the street at the bottom of the image).

Well, shadows and highlights compression could be adjustable just like in the audio world (without the time constant - or should it? 😄)

That's almost literally what I do. For the contrast I apply a tone curve (see example below) which pushes some gray tones towards darker tones and some tones towards brighter tones, but I don't amplify beyond a clipping point. You'll just lose some of the details in the highlights because the lighter tones get "compressed" to a tighter bandwidth.

Ok, I found the culprit. It’s the noise. Details are still there, but noise (whitest white) actually overexposes. 

That's possible. Lemme look into that. Thanks!

richardyot

dwell

@rs2000 said:

@echoopera said:
Time to go down the ColorTheory and Film Types rabbit hole @brambos 😉

@dwell said:
Actually I’m most interested in filters/film simulations than the frame factor (I crop my pictures to taste)

What other film simulations apps are out there? Preferably without tracking

On my desktop machine, I find DxO FilmLab quite powerful. Not sure if there's anything comparable on iOS, except maybe writing your own image processor using Pythonista etc.

Thanks for the suggestions (and @Atlesbe)

I used to use CameraBag on the Mac until I discovered it messed all my metadata up, specially the dates.

I prefer using the iPhone's camera and then edit either on my phone or MacBook, that's why I asked about filters/film simulations.

Luxthor

Exploring new format. XP4N Gritty - Ko-Tanzaku (iPhone 15 Pro Max)

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Beats

Cloud

dendy

@Luxthor said:

@dendy said:

So why don’t you jump at that surfboard, grab the kite, and join the guys?! 😅 Great shot!

nah, with my luck i would probably break my leg, hand or drown.. ot all of that simultaneously 😂🤣 just watching

richardyot

@Luxthor said:
Exploring new format. XP4N Gritty - Ko-Tanzaku (iPhone 15 Pro Max)

Reverb

Beats

Cloud

Nice - especially the beats!

Tarekith

Man this app is fun.

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