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OneShot! By Klevgrand (Released on iOS)

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  • edited September 19

    I've tried Riffler as an engine for OneShot and the results with sets from the percussion category along with the Riffler Endless mode are very interesting. I definitely recommend trying it out :)
    EDIT: This couple could be even more fun when you invite Octachron to the party. Here it is a fast short example with 60's acoustic kit. All kick and snares are from Octachron, rest of instruments are from Riffler in endless mode:

  • So what about the additional jazz samples then ?

    If only euclidean sequencing ( for now ) outside of oneshot.

    Would I buy in case euclidean is just for niche and do end up using oneshot, with launchpad triggers.

  • Is it normal for apps to not give access to samples or a choice?

    I mean.

    If I made samples in drambo or koala.

    There would be access to samples.

    Id be using an au per track that could sequence drums and round robin variations. For a less random round robins across a song.

    It makes oneshot, slammer, ting a waste.

    Even though iv sampled these apps.

    Doubt id make/store a load of round robins.

    Then you feel obliged to pay cloud subscription because of time it takes to make own samples.

    When an install could just have a files directory.

  • @PapaBPoppin said:

    @Ailerom said:
    Does anyone know, if I create a kit on desktop, can I use it in the iPad version?

    I have a preset demo with finger drumming. I play full kit style (rather than mirrored) so it (hopefully?) gives the feel of an e-kits sound as well

    As opposed to via a sequencer with humanizing elements applied

    I linked it much further back in the thread, and to avoid reposting my own content, here's the dedicated thread with the video

    https://forum.audiob.us/discussion/62410/oneshot-papab-finger-drums-the-standard-acoustic-presets#latest

    Volume a little soft. I messed up somewhere and am trying to correct for next, just a heads up

    Working on another preset pack for the weekend (hopefully with finger drumming video to accompany, if new cam works well enough)

    Whats your take on drum drops.

    If I need to sequence hits elsewhere and maybe have some round robin versions of the hits to also sequence ( without having to resample everything like oneshot )

    Iv already bought oneshot and it is mainly electronic ( good electronic drums ) then loads of toms. Then some kits.

    There is likely enough hits to make kits and if I load a sample. Just maybe then sample a few or more round robin versions ( until Iv got all samples and robins over time )

    With drum drops I shouldnt need to do that.

    Although there is patch making ( what is this ? )

    Do you actually get loads of samples also. Is there like 100s per pack etc ?

    What type should be bought. The £30 or £20. Needing robin versions of hits etc but unsure about patch making.

    Or is there enough acoustic drums now with just oneshot and sampled round robins ?

  • Which auv3 drum sequencers are people getting best results with OneShot? I can imagine finger drumming may well be best with generous editing in post so maybe with that approach recording straight into the raw is they way to go. Any insights into what’s working for you geniuses is greatly appreciated :)

  • Why not implement playable pads like in thing or slammer ???

  • @Cambler said:
    Which auv3 drum sequencers are people getting best results with OneShot? I can imagine finger drumming may well be best with generous editing in post so maybe with that approach recording straight into the raw is they way to go. Any insights into what’s working for you geniuses is greatly appreciated :)

    I'm using Octachron and Funk Drummer.

  • @Cambler said:
    Which auv3 drum sequencers are people getting best results with OneShot? I can imagine finger drumming may well be best with generous editing in post so maybe with that approach recording straight into the raw is they way to go. Any insights into what’s working for you geniuses is greatly appreciated :)

    No matter which sequencer you choose, I recommend putting something like MIDI Curves (from the MIDITools suite) in-between the sequencer and OneShot. Playing with the three knobs Drive, Dampen and Random is a great way to bring out the dynamics of the round-robined velocity layers.

  • @Cambler said:
    Which auv3 drum sequencers are people getting best results with OneShot? I can imagine finger drumming may well be best with generous editing in post so maybe with that approach recording straight into the raw is they way to go. Any insights into what’s working for you geniuses is greatly appreciated :)

    Patterning 3 (just sending midi) works great for me with OneShot. Strokes (again as midi) too.

  • @bleep said:

    @Cambler said:
    Which auv3 drum sequencers are people getting best results with OneShot? I can imagine finger drumming may well be best with generous editing in post so maybe with that approach recording straight into the raw is they way to go. Any insights into what’s working for you geniuses is greatly appreciated :)

    No matter which sequencer you choose, I recommend putting something like MIDI Curves (from the MIDITools suite) in-between the sequencer and OneShot. Playing with the three knobs Drive, Dampen and Random is a great way to bring out the dynamics of the round-robined velocity layers.

    That's great idea, thank you @bleep!

  • Thanks to all for their recommendations. Been playing with Octachron bit and getting somewhere interesting but it still sounds too machine-like (rhythmically). I have no doubt that’s on me!

    @bleep thanks for the MIDItools suggestion. Will that work within a daw (rather than AUM)? Sounds like a great approach.

  • @Cambler said:
    Thanks to all for their recommendations. Been playing with Octachron bit and getting somewhere interesting but it still sounds too machine-like (rhythmically). I have no doubt that’s on me!

    @bleep thanks for the MIDItools suggestion. Will that work within a daw (rather than AUM)? Sounds like a great approach.

    I made something in Drambo, that I think can sound less machinelike. There's a video by me early in this thread, that shows it in action. It's on patch storage and called oh snap! I'm having lots of fun with it driving OneShot.

  • It should work in any place where you can insert a MidiFX plugin, taking midi in and sending transformed midi out. I only have experience with AUM and Drambo (both working fine), perhaps @Gavinski or any others can comment on whether MidiTools work in Loopy, LP, Cubasis ...?

  • edited September 26

    @bleep said:
    It should work in any place where you can insert a MidiFX plugin, taking midi in and sending transformed midi out. I only have experience with AUM and Drambo (both working fine), perhaps @Gavinski or any others can comment on whether MidiTools work in Loopy, LP, Cubasis ...?

    I only use AUM. Midi tools indeed works great there and is great for combining with OneShot

  • @tyslothrop1 said:

    @Cambler said:
    Thanks to all for their recommendations. Been playing with Octachron bit and getting somewhere interesting but it still sounds too machine-like (rhythmically). I have no doubt that’s on me!

    @bleep thanks for the MIDItools suggestion. Will that work within a daw (rather than AUM)? Sounds like a great approach.

    I made something in Drambo, that I think can sound less machinelike. There's a video by me early in this thread, that shows it in action. It's on patch storage and called oh snap! I'm having lots of fun with it driving OneShot.

    Magic! Thanks for this, will check it out.

  • @Gavinski said:

    @bleep said:
    It should work in any place where you can insert a MidiFX plugin, taking midi in and sending transformed midi out. I only have experience with AUM and Drambo (both working fine), perhaps @Gavinski or any others can comment on whether MidiTools work in Loopy, LP, Cubasis ...?

    U​only use AUM. Midi tools indeed works great there and is great for combining with OneShot

    I use anything but AUM :) No disrespect to the wonder that is AUM, it's just doesn't align with the way my brain works :)

  • @Cambler said:

    @Gavinski said:

    @bleep said:
    It should work in any place where you can insert a MidiFX plugin, taking midi in and sending transformed midi out. I only have experience with AUM and Drambo (both working fine), perhaps @Gavinski or any others can comment on whether MidiTools work in Loopy, LP, Cubasis ...?

    U​only use AUM. Midi tools indeed works great there and is great for combining with OneShot

    I use anything but AUM :) No disrespect to the wonder that is AUM, it's just doesn't align with the way my brain works :)

    Sure, no worries!

  • @Gavinski said:

    @Cambler said:

    @Gavinski said:

    @bleep said:
    It should work in any place where you can insert a MidiFX plugin, taking midi in and sending transformed midi out. I only have experience with AUM and Drambo (both working fine), perhaps @Gavinski or any others can comment on whether MidiTools work in Loopy, LP, Cubasis ...?

    U​only use AUM. Midi tools indeed works great there and is great for combining with OneShot

    I use anything but AUM :) No disrespect to the wonder that is AUM, it's just doesn't align with the way my brain works :)

    Sure, no worries!

    All good! MIDItools app page description states it works with Cubasis 2 and some other DAWs so I’m guessing it’ll be fine with Cubasis 3.

  • I really like how Doug used short synth samples in his One Shot vid. @thesoundtestroom . It was pretty close to how I imagine I might use One shot; not as a beatmaking, drum sampler thing, but as a new, interesting way to trigger samples.

    Could I use it, for example, with slightly longer samples (let's say 6 seconds long, for argument's sake), and have the tempo way down to 30 bpm?

    I mean, I guess I could just spend some time learning Loopy Pro, ha!

    Anyone out there using it in an experimental (or just slightly different) way?

  • edited September 26

    I haven't tried yet, but I'm thinking one experimental/slightly different approach would be to load some longer samples, have them triggered by some midi pattern, and then do live tweaking of the various dots in the OneShot choking matrix to see if you come up with some happy accident loops. Plenty of ways to tweak for blending the sounds (amount of choke, choke time, velocity influence, sample interaction).

    Perhaps one good candidate set of sounds for this would be to collect a bunch of sounds from Relic Flow.

  • @Kashi said:
    I really like how Doug used short synth samples in his One Shot vid. @thesoundtestroom . It was pretty close to how I imagine I might use One shot; not as a beatmaking, drum sampler thing, but as a new, interesting way to trigger samples.

    Could I use it, for example, with slightly longer samples (let's say 6 seconds long, for argument's sake), and have the tempo way down to 30 bpm?

    I mean, I guess I could just spend some time learning Loopy Pro, ha!

    Anyone out there using it in an experimental (or just slightly different) way?

    Yeah I've experimented with it some and it's great as you have so many options with effects, both on the module and as send, and one can copy to other keys in a breeze. I don't remember the length but it wasn't that long, a few seconds. maybe. I'll try a longer one when I can, see what gives.

  • @Pxlhg said:

    @Kashi said:
    I really like how Doug used short synth samples in his One Shot vid. @thesoundtestroom . It was pretty close to how I imagine I might use One shot; not as a beatmaking, drum sampler thing, but as a new, interesting way to trigger samples.

    Could I use it, for example, with slightly longer samples (let's say 6 seconds long, for argument's sake), and have the tempo way down to 30 bpm?

    I mean, I guess I could just spend some time learning Loopy Pro, ha!

    Anyone out there using it in an experimental (or just slightly different) way?

    Yeah I've experimented with it some and it's great as you have so many options with effects, both on the module and as send, and one can copy to other keys in a breeze. I don't remember the length but it wasn't that long, a few seconds. maybe. I'll try a longer one when I can, see what gives.

    Cool. Thanks @Pxlhg @bleep

  • @tyslothrop1 said:
    I made something in Drambo, that I think can sound less machinelike. There's a video by me early in this thread, that shows it in action. It's on patch storage and called oh snap! I'm having lots of fun with it driving OneShot.

    Thanks, it is a really cool module you've built. I've had Drambo since the start and still feel like a beginner every time I open it.. 😃

  • Can you play the samples chromatically on a keyboard?

  • @Pxlhg said:

    @tyslothrop1 said:
    I made something in Drambo, that I think can sound less machinelike. There's a video by me early in this thread, that shows it in action. It's on patch storage and called oh snap! I'm having lots of fun with it driving OneShot.

    Thanks, it is a really cool module you've built. I've had Drambo since the start and still feel like a beginner every time I open it.. 😃

    Thanks, glad you like it :) I only know very few modules well. What I love about Drambo is, that I still can build something fun and there's always more to try. I'll probably always feel like a beginner and that's cool.

  • Every single time I change to a new preset it crashes. Every time. Not happy.
    Running it in AUM, triggered by Harmony Bloom.
    iPad 6th gen 2018.
    Os 17.6.1

    This not happening for anyone else?

  • @Kashi said:
    Every single time I change to a new preset it crashes. Every time. Not happy.
    Running it in AUM, triggered by Harmony Bloom.
    iPad 6th gen 2018.
    Os 17.6.1

    This not happening for anyone else?

    Did you try increase sample buffer? In my case OneShot and several other apps crashed on my iPad Air M1 when I'm running at 48kHz/32samples in Loopy Pro.

  • @Kashi said:
    Every single time I change to a new preset it crashes. Every time. Not happy.
    Running it in AUM, triggered by Harmony Bloom.
    iPad 6th gen 2018.
    Os 17.6.1

    This not happening for anyone else?

    I suspect it is a memory issue. I occasionally have crashes on my iPad 6 when I first load a preset.

  • @Kashi I also got crashes when changing preset, ipad 6 2018. One could say our ipads are too old and weak, but then again the app should be able to handle a few MB of samples in memory at any time. Hopefully Klevgrand can improve on this.

  • @filo01 said:

    @Kashi said:
    Every single time I change to a new preset it crashes. Every time. Not happy.
    Running it in AUM, triggered by Harmony Bloom.
    iPad 6th gen 2018.
    Os 17.6.1

    This not happening for anyone else?

    Did you try increase sample buffer? In my case OneShot and several other apps crashed on my iPad Air M1 when I'm running at 48kHz/32samples in Loopy Pro.

    Haven’t tried that, but I will….good call.
    Do you mean within One Shot settings or in AUM?

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