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iOS Youtubers and the iOS platform

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  • @Gravitas said:

    @JGD said:

    No not really, I'll disagree with the "is just a hobby really"
    The quality of the iOS apps are perfectly acceptable in a professional setting.

    I agree that many apps can be used in a professional setting

    Any tool in the right hands actually

    But, devils advocate here… most apps are geared towards electronica and ive heard moderate examples of edm style tracks so far

    Advocate away.

    Care to share any links to a 100 percent iOS app production that a pro level dj would not hesitate to play? I’d love to hear some

    I would also love to hear some.
    There are none.
    The platform is a niche platform filled mainly with hobbyists who's main focus is tutorials and apps.
    Not very inspiring when wanting to create a dance track for a pro level dj for the younger demographic.
    There was one producer recently (with major artists under their belt) who dipped their toe into the iOS market
    via Loopy Pro and quickly went the other way.

    Hence why I have been adding certain content to this thread which is to encourage someone or persons
    to create music and release it so that a pro dj or radio station wouldn't hesitate to play it
    however as a professional musician, composer and producer for some years (award winning by the way)
    I wouldn't recommend them to come on to the platform at all at this rate and
    further more I wouldn't want any attention drawn to the fact that iOS apps had been used
    on their tracks for fear that it would attract trolls.
    The behaviour is appaling and I've been drawn into happenstance.
    I'm actually quite dumbfounded.
    Here are a bunch of dev's who produce desktop qualiy apps at almost next to nothing
    for devices that span the World which would be perfect at all levels in the professional music world
    from sessions musicians to conductors and it's dominated by trolls who want the dev's and iOS YouTubers
    to provide techincal support for free and will bully the dev's and iOS YouTubers into doing so.
    So in answer to your question it is a firm resounding no at this moment in time.

    However ending this reply on a positive note

    This piece

    https://forum.loopypro.com/discussion/62789/le-reve-poignant-linearlineman-piano-improvisation-chamber-string-orchestration-by-jankun/p1

    I would happily take to an orchestra to be performed.
    It's quality however quality costs money.

    What I was going to suggest is having a regular playlist of iOS only tracks that are aimed
    at the commercial end of the market and not just amateurs sharing their work ad hoc.
    Nothing wrong with being amateur, so please no offence intended.
    It's a well known fact that the platform has plenty of hobbyists and without them the platform may not exist.

    Earlier this year I started making a video on why someone (professional) would want to use iOS for music.

    I canned the video and don’t recommend anybody get into the platform. My video was focusing on Loopy Pro and Drambo, I am now redoing separate videos on the mac versions (when LP is available.)

    The reason is simple, one port and a huge fuckin dongle mess will never be professional and you will never be able to use an iPad seriously on a stage.

  • @BroCoast said:

    @Gravitas said:

    @JGD said:

    No not really, I'll disagree with the "is just a hobby really"
    The quality of the iOS apps are perfectly acceptable in a professional setting.

    I agree that many apps can be used in a professional setting

    Any tool in the right hands actually

    But, devils advocate here… most apps are geared towards electronica and ive heard moderate examples of edm style tracks so far

    Advocate away.

    Care to share any links to a 100 percent iOS app production that a pro level dj would not hesitate to play? I’d love to hear some

    I would also love to hear some.
    There are none.
    The platform is a niche platform filled mainly with hobbyists who's main focus is tutorials and apps.
    Not very inspiring when wanting to create a dance track for a pro level dj for the younger demographic.
    There was one producer recently (with major artists under their belt) who dipped their toe into the iOS market
    via Loopy Pro and quickly went the other way.

    Hence why I have been adding certain content to this thread which is to encourage someone or persons
    to create music and release it so that a pro dj or radio station wouldn't hesitate to play it
    however as a professional musician, composer and producer for some years (award winning by the way)
    I wouldn't recommend them to come on to the platform at all at this rate and
    further more I wouldn't want any attention drawn to the fact that iOS apps had been used
    on their tracks for fear that it would attract trolls.
    The behaviour is appaling and I've been drawn into happenstance.
    I'm actually quite dumbfounded.
    Here are a bunch of dev's who produce desktop qualiy apps at almost next to nothing
    for devices that span the World which would be perfect at all levels in the professional music world
    from sessions musicians to conductors and it's dominated by trolls who want the dev's and iOS YouTubers
    to provide techincal support for free and will bully the dev's and iOS YouTubers into doing so.
    So in answer to your question it is a firm resounding no at this moment in time.

    However ending this reply on a positive note

    This piece

    https://forum.loopypro.com/discussion/62789/le-reve-poignant-linearlineman-piano-improvisation-chamber-string-orchestration-by-jankun/p1

    I would happily take to an orchestra to be performed.
    It's quality however quality costs money.

    What I was going to suggest is having a regular playlist of iOS only tracks that are aimed
    at the commercial end of the market and not just amateurs sharing their work ad hoc.
    Nothing wrong with being amateur, so please no offence intended.
    It's a well known fact that the platform has plenty of hobbyists and without them the platform may not exist.

    Earlier this year I started making a video on why someone (professional) would want to use iOS for music.

    I canned the video and don’t recommend anybody get into the platform. My video was focusing on Loopy Pro and Drambo, I am now redoing separate videos on the mac versions (when LP is available.)

    The reason is simple, one port and a huge fuckin dongle mess will never be professional and you will never be able to use an iPad seriously on a stage.

    The lack of the headphone jack was certainly a really major spanner in the works. There was far more interest in this platform before that was dropped. Another factor, mentioned upstream, was Apple dropping the affiliate program, meaning big music production websites are not incentived to cover iPad apps any more. I'm not super optimistic for the future of the iPad as a music production tool. It feels like it is going to get even more niche than it already is.

  • @Fruitbat1919 said:

    While the Internet can seem a place dominated by nastiness and trolls, I still believe it's actually the minority.

    In this I disagree.
    I've seen way more nastiness and trolls than not.

    Often some of it could be down to misunderstandings more than actual malice. Take the OP - I've often found the responses I've received in conversation to be a tad rude, but have over time adjusted to this as I've seen it's just a person's particular personality traits - some feel the same way about me. I rarely discuss others on here, but I'm sure 'Rambo' will be the first to admit an oft gun ho attitude to replies, so no hard feelings I hope.

    Yup, some people can find me a tad rude simply because I don't like mincing my words.
    I speak direct when neccessary.
    Also the nuances of vocal tones are sometimes lost in the text.

    No hard feelings whatsoever. :)

    Whatever happens, I do hope many of you youtubers and devs manage to survive and prosper

    Agreed.

    This is the aim and objective of this thread which is to enable the dev's, YouTubers and the users who use said apps.

  • @BroCoast said:

    Earlier this year I started making a video on why someone (professional) would want to use iOS for music.

    I canned the video and don’t recommend anybody get into the platform. My video was focusing on Loopy Pro and Drambo, I am now redoing separate videos on the mac versions (when LP is available.)

    The reason is simple, one port and a huge fuckin dongle mess will never be professional and you will never be able to use an iPad seriously on a stage.

    Before the Lockdowns I was taking my ipad with an audio interface out for regular gigs
    with my improv band at the time and not one of the band members batted an eyelid.
    I was using the ipad for guitar and bass.
    This was every week for over a year.
    Around the same time I did a one off gig for a friend(who's passed away now) in a castle (yes, castle)
    there may still be a thread where I mentioned it floating around someplace
    and the bass player and sound engineer for the gig took one look at my rig
    and went and got a specific guitar amp to match my guitar tone.
    He didn't mention anything about the dongle dangling off the side.
    The sound engineer and bass player was Stuart Bruce.

    https://www.recordproduction.com/interviews/stuart-bruce

    Robert Frip if I remember correctly also uses an ipad with his rig.

    Here's a thread from the Loopy Pro forum

    https://forum.loopypro.com/discussion/33911/photo-of-fripp-and-his-ipad

  • @Gravitas said:

    @BroCoast said:

    Earlier this year I started making a video on why someone (professional) would want to use iOS for music.

    I canned the video and don’t recommend anybody get into the platform. My video was focusing on Loopy Pro and Drambo, I am now redoing separate videos on the mac versions (when LP is available.)

    The reason is simple, one port and a huge fuckin dongle mess will never be professional and you will never be able to use an iPad seriously on a stage.

    Before the Lockdowns I was taking my ipad with an audio interface out for regular gigs
    with my improv band at the time and not one of the band members batted an eyelid.
    I was using the ipad for guitar and bass.
    This was every week for over a year.
    Around the same time I did a one off gig for a friend(who's passed away now) in a castle (yes, castle)
    there may still be a thread where I mentioned it floating around someplace
    and the bass player and sound engineer for the gig took one look at my rig
    and went and got a specific guitar amp to match my guitar tone.
    He didn't mention anything about the dongle dangling off the side.
    The sound engineer and bass player was Stuart Bruce.

    https://www.recordproduction.com/interviews/stuart-bruce

    Robert Frip if I remember correctly also uses an ipad with his rig.

    Here's a thread from the Loopy Pro forum

    https://forum.loopypro.com/discussion/33911/photo-of-fripp-and-his-ipad

    Hey, you could have saved yourself some time. I’ve been using an iPad on stages for the last decade off and on… this is not about if they work live/pro or not. I just don’t think it’s a good idea to use one moving forward given Apple’s attitude towards professionals who have attempted to promote the platform.

  • @Gravitas said:

    @BroCoast said:

    Earlier this year I started making a video on why someone (professional) would want to use iOS for music.

    I canned the video and don’t recommend anybody get into the platform. My video was focusing on Loopy Pro and Drambo, I am now redoing separate videos on the mac versions (when LP is available.)

    The reason is simple, one port and a huge fuckin dongle mess will never be professional and you will never be able to use an iPad seriously on a stage.

    Before the Lockdowns I was taking my ipad with an audio interface out for regular gigs
    with my improv band at the time and not one of the band members batted an eyelid.
    I was using the ipad for guitar and bass.
    This was every week for over a year.
    Around the same time I did a one off gig for a friend(who's passed away now) in a castle (yes, castle)
    there may still be a thread where I mentioned it floating around someplace
    and the bass player and sound engineer for the gig took one look at my rig
    and went and got a specific guitar amp to match my guitar tone.
    He didn't mention anything about the dongle dangling off the side.
    The sound engineer and bass player was Stuart Bruce.

    https://www.recordproduction.com/interviews/stuart-bruce

    Robert Frip if I remember correctly also uses an ipad with his rig.

    Here's a thread from the Loopy Pro forum

    https://forum.loopypro.com/discussion/33911/photo-of-fripp-and-his-ipad

    No question that there are professional musicians using the iPad. But it is hard to imagine it replacing desktop, which was something you used to hear people saying a few years ago. 'iOS is the future of music production' etc. It's not going to disappear, but it's not looking likely to revolutionize music production in a significant way (though it has revolutionized consumption) . If the iPad had never been invented, the state of modern music production would be basically identical to what it is today. The same can't be said about the invention of the DAW, for example.

  • @Gavinski said:
    The lack of the headphone jack was certainly a really major spanner in the works. There was far more interest in this platform before that was dropped. Another factor, mentioned upstream, was Apple dropping the affiliate program, meaning big music production websites are not incentived to cover iPad apps any more. I'm not super optimistic for the future of the iPad as a music production tool. It feels like it is going to get even more niche than it already is.

    Agreed.

  • @BroCoast said:

    Hey, you could have saved yourself some time. I’ve been using an iPad on stages for the last decade off and on… this is not about if they work live/pro or not. I just don’t think it’s a good idea to use one moving forward given Apple’s attitude towards professionals who have attempted to promote the platform.

    Well, that's my choice and the choice of anyone else who decides to do so.

  • edited October 27

    @Gavinski said:

    No question that there are professional musicians using the iPad. But it is hard to imagine it replacing desktop, which was something you used to hear people saying a few years ago. 'iOS is the future of music production' etc. It's not going to disappear, but it's not looking likely to revolutionize music production in a significant way (though it has revolutionized consumption) .

    This is a challenge that I set myself.
    Whether I rise or fall I'm aware of the risks.

    Long term with the way things are I see the iPad as an addition to not as a replacement.

    If the iPad had never been invented, the state of modern music production would be basically identical to what it is today. The same can't be said about the invention of the DAW, for example.

    Agreed.

  • @Gravitas said:

    @BroCoast said:

    Hey, you could have saved yourself some time. I’ve been using an iPad on stages for the last decade off and on… this is not about if they work live/pro or not. I just don’t think it’s a good idea to use one moving forward given Apple’s attitude towards professionals who have attempted to promote the platform.

    Well, that's my choice and the choice of anyone else who decides to do so.

    Sure, sorry for my explanation of why I don’t promote the platform anymore. As you were.

  • @BroCoast said:

    @Gravitas said:

    @BroCoast said:

    Hey, you could have saved yourself some time. I’ve been using an iPad on stages for the last decade off and on… this is not about if they work live/pro or not. I just don’t think it’s a good idea to use one moving forward given Apple’s attitude towards professionals who have attempted to promote the platform.

    Well, that's my choice and the choice of anyone else who decides to do so.

    Sure, sorry for my explanation of why I don’t promote the platform anymore. As you were.

    No need to apologise.
    That's how you feel and that's valid in itself.
    Maybe in a years time I may feel like you however that isn't the case right now.
    Likewise.

  • It's weird after spending years avoiding social media to have a YouTube channel.
    I was the last person I know to finally make a Facebook account. I'm not really comfortable promoting myself.

    Sometimes just showing people a little bit of who you are is scary. I used to get stage fright every time my band played. Every time I was in a play in community theater I was scared to death. I feel that way every time I drop a video. What if everyone sees my flaws? What if they hate my video or my music?

    I'm not selling anything but it feels that way. I'm competing for attention but I'm really just wanting to share a little bit while I'm alive. I don't know that I have anything important to say but not everything has to be important. Sometimes just making someone forget their troubles for a minute or two is enough.

    I keep putting stuff out there to fight that nagging little voice that says, "You can't".

    I do it because it gives me a chance to work with some friends and hopefully draw some attention their way.

    In the end it might all be for nothing. But if it brings a little happiness or excitement to someone it's worth it. Seeing that people in China and Russia, Japan and Europe and other places all over the world have seen something I put together is an amazing reward.

    I do wish I could make a living with it but even if I managed to devote the time required Im not sure if what I have to offer would be able to get the views.

    What some of you have built on YouTube and other social media sites is impressive. I'm just beginning to get an idea of what it takes to have even a small amount of success. I'm so far away from being monetized the thought of it is just a fantasy.

    I hope that by surrounding myself with people more talented than I am that I can grow. I appreciate the opportunity this Forum provides. I'm glad to be able to learn from people who are where I would like to be someday. Maybe I'll get there, maybe I won't. But I never would have gotten this far if not for this Forum and the people willing to share their creativity and feedback.

    Apologies if I'm dragging the conversation off track. Just random thoughts, some self justification and a little appreciation for the people who are putting themselves out there.

  • It occurs to me that one of the watershed moments for iOS music apps, and this forum, was the placement of Loopy on The Tonight Show in March 2014.

    https://www.nbc.com/nbc-insider/billy-joel-jimmy-fallon-lion-sleeps-tonight-singing-video

    When Billy Joel swung by The Tonight Show Starring Jimmy Fallon, he and Jimmy Fallon made some beautiful music together. But instead of using classroom instruments to cover one of Joel's classic tunes, Fallon veered in a doo-wop direction using a then-new technology — specifically, an iPad sound looping app.

    I often forget how quickly a fortuitous event like a product placement can change-up the game.

    If big change is to happen, I think we need to look outside of YouTube.

  • edited October 28

    @MadeofWax said:
    It's weird after spending years avoiding social media to have a YouTube channel.
    I was the last person I know to finally make a Facebook account. I'm not really comfortable promoting myself.

    Some people adore attracting attention and some detest it.
    More often than not people are of the latter like rabbits caught in between headlights.

    Sometimes just showing people a little bit of who you are is scary. I used to get stage fright every time my band played. Every time I was in a play in community theater I was scared to death. I feel that way every time I drop a video. What if everyone sees my flaws? What if they hate my video or my music?

    Oh indeed, walking on stage or standing in front of an audience is scary.
    I think public speaking is the worst.
    Yet you still feel compelled to do it.
    Many of us feel the same way.

    I'm not selling anything but it feels that way. I'm competing for attention but I'm really just wanting to share a little bit while I'm alive. I don't know that I have anything important to say but not everything has to be important. Sometimes just making someone forget their troubles for a minute or two is enough.

    This is the basic requirement of our creativity.
    You do not know whom you reach when you share your material.
    So many performers have said the same thing or similar which is that
    they have had members from the audience walk up to them and say "your song saved my life".

    I keep putting stuff out there to fight that nagging little voice that says, "You can't".

    Oh you have that voice as well.

    I do it because it gives me a chance to work with some friends and hopefully draw some attention their way.

    Nice, good thinking, scratch my back I scratch yours and we all benefit.

    In the end it might all be for nothing. But if it brings a little happiness or excitement to someone it's worth it. Seeing that people in China and Russia, Japan and Europe and other places all over the world have seen something I put together is an amazing reward.

    Awesome.

    I do wish I could make a living with it but even if I managed to devote the time required Im not sure if what I have to offer would be able to get the views.

    What some of you have built on YouTube and other social media sites is impressive. I'm just beginning to get an idea of what it takes to have even a small amount of success. I'm so far away from being monetized the thought of it is just a fantasy.

    I hope that by surrounding myself with people more talented than I am that I can grow. I appreciate the opportunity this Forum provides. I'm glad to be able to learn from people who are where I would like to be someday. Maybe I'll get there, maybe I won't. But I never would have gotten this far if not for this Forum and the people willing to share their creativity and feedback.

    Always surround yourself with artists that are the equal or greater than you.
    It keeps you humble and in turn pushes you to grow.
    The greatest artists are humble people, they may start off with huge egos
    but reality soon brings them right back down to earth.
    There are exceptions of course. ;)

    Apologies if I'm dragging the conversation off track. Just random thoughts, some self justification and a little appreciation for the people who are putting themselves out there.

    It's relevant to the conversation because now that we have less "agro" as we say in Sauf London
    we can focus on the community and what the community has to offer and
    you're a member of the forum with some really good material and you're actively
    using cutting edge tech, as in A.I, though controversial at the moment.
    This thread has gone off in so many directions so it's all good. :)

  • @mojozart said:
    It occurs to me that one of the watershed moments for iOS music apps, and this forum, was the placement of Loopy on The Tonight Show in March 2014.

    https://www.nbc.com/nbc-insider/billy-joel-jimmy-fallon-lion-sleeps-tonight-singing-video

    When Billy Joel swung by The Tonight Show Starring Jimmy Fallon, he and Jimmy Fallon made some beautiful music together. But instead of using classroom instruments to cover one of Joel's classic tunes, Fallon veered in a doo-wop direction using a then-new technology — specifically, an iPad sound looping app.

    I often forget how quickly a fortuitous event like a product placement can change-up the game.

    Ohh,...I didn't know this piece of Loopy history.
    Good to know and thanks for sharing.

    If big change is to happen, I think we need to look outside of YouTube.

    Agreed.

    For sure because it will eventually stagnate.

  • @mojozart said:
    It occurs to me that one of the watershed moments for iOS music apps, and this forum, was the placement of Loopy on The Tonight Show in March 2014.

    https://www.nbc.com/nbc-insider/billy-joel-jimmy-fallon-lion-sleeps-tonight-singing-video

    When Billy Joel swung by The Tonight Show Starring Jimmy Fallon, he and Jimmy Fallon made some beautiful music together. But instead of using classroom instruments to cover one of Joel's classic tunes, Fallon veered in a doo-wop direction using a then-new technology — specifically, an iPad sound looping app.

    I often forget how quickly a fortuitous event like a product placement can change-up the game.

    If big change is to happen, I think we need to look outside of YouTube.

    That’s a good point. But given the opportunity for such exposure, what app would even be best to showcase in 2024? Loopy was a pretty special app at that time.

    Around that time was really the peak of devs bringing unique ideas to the iPad. There was a real buzz about app making in general and the hardware was impressive while still being user friendly.

  • @JGD said:

    @Gravitas said:
    @JGD
    This (from the Beepstreet Forum) I would happily add to a dubstep playlist

    Hmmm

    Hmmmm indeed.

    Care to share what you think should be suitable?

  • @Gravitas said:
    @JGD
    This (from the Beepstreet Forum) I would happily add to a dubstep playlist

    I mean that’s impressive but at the same time I’d almost struggle to call that a track.

  • edited October 28

    Removed

  • @BroCoast said:

    @mojozart said:
    It occurs to me that one of the watershed moments for iOS music apps, and this forum, was the placement of Loopy on The Tonight Show in March 2014.

    https://www.nbc.com/nbc-insider/billy-joel-jimmy-fallon-lion-sleeps-tonight-singing-video

    When Billy Joel swung by The Tonight Show Starring Jimmy Fallon, he and Jimmy Fallon made some beautiful music together. But instead of using classroom instruments to cover one of Joel's classic tunes, Fallon veered in a doo-wop direction using a then-new technology — specifically, an iPad sound looping app.

    I often forget how quickly a fortuitous event like a product placement can change-up the game.

    If big change is to happen, I think we need to look outside of YouTube.

    That’s a good point. But given the opportunity for such exposure, what app would even be best to showcase in 2024? Loopy was a pretty special app at that time.

    I think the time for showcasing apps is done.
    Most of the apps and even the Forum itself is now are established.
    Audiences are used to live looping and electronica.
    Their more interested in whether it's pleasing to the ear or not.

    Around that time was really the peak of devs bringing unique ideas to the iPad. There was a real buzz about app making in general and the hardware was impressive while still being user friendly.

    Now we have burnt out dev's who are facing an ever demanding unfriendly user base.
    So many developers have given up because of the pressure.

    Audio Damage had this to say last year...

    https://forum.loopypro.com/discussion/54796/audio-damage-raised-some-prices-6-months-ago/p1

    They haven't raised their prices however they are not the only ones complaining about the demands that they have to meet.

    Here's what another dev had to say after the release of Xinematix

    @VirSyn said:
    Hi all,

    sorry for being unresponsive the last time, to be honest i'mm a bit mentally broken and need some time to refresh.
    Just want to say that I will read all comments one by one and will try to explain/answer as many of them possible, but I will need a bit more time than usual.

    Best regards
    Harry

    and many more desktop dev's have said similar things.

  • @BroCoast said:

    @Gravitas said:
    @JGD
    This (from the Beepstreet Forum) I would happily add to a dubstep playlist

    I mean that’s impressive but at the same time I’d almost struggle to call that a track.

    Why?
    Not being confrontational simply asking for your honest opinion.

  • @JGD said:

    @Tarekith said:
    Fingers crossed, there's still a couple sticking points we're trying to work out. 🤞🏼

    Hmmmm, sticking points? I’d do what they say if you want any chance of being on a label like that… they would get flooded with demos

    You simply don’t dictate terms to a label unless you are already established and a guaranteed asset..

    So what exactly are those sticking points dude

    Happy to discuss the details once it’s a done deal. In hindsight I should have known better than to talk about a contract before it’s signed.

  • @Tarekith said:

    @JGD said:

    @Tarekith said:
    Fingers crossed, there's still a couple sticking points we're trying to work out. 🤞🏼

    Hmmmm, sticking points? I’d do what they say if you want any chance of being on a label like that… they would get flooded with demos

    You simply don’t dictate terms to a label unless you are already established and a guaranteed asset..

    So what exactly are those sticking points dude

    Happy to discuss the details once it’s a done deal. In hindsight I should have known better than to talk about a contract before it’s signed.

    Yea, don’t jinx it :smile:

  • @gusgranite said:

    @Tarekith said:

    @JGD said:

    @Tarekith said:
    Fingers crossed, there's still a couple sticking points we're trying to work out. 🤞🏼

    Hmmmm, sticking points? I’d do what they say if you want any chance of being on a label like that… they would get flooded with demos

    You simply don’t dictate terms to a label unless you are already established and a guaranteed asset..

    So what exactly are those sticking points dude

    Happy to discuss the details once it’s a done deal. In hindsight I should have known better than to talk about a contract before it’s signed.

    Yea, don’t jinx it :smile:

    Agreed.

  • @MadeofWax said:
    It's weird after spending years avoiding social media to have a YouTube channel.
    I was the last person I know to finally make a Facebook account. I'm not really comfortable promoting myself.

    Sometimes just showing people a little bit of who you are is scary. I used to get stage fright every time my band played. Every time I was in a play in community theater I was scared to death. I feel that way every time I drop a video. What if everyone sees my flaws? What if they hate my video or my music?

    I'm not selling anything but it feels that way. I'm competing for attention but I'm really just wanting to share a little bit while I'm alive. I don't know that I have anything important to say but not everything has to be important. Sometimes just making someone forget their troubles for a minute or two is enough.

    I keep putting stuff out there to fight that nagging little voice that says, "You can't".

    I do it because it gives me a chance to work with some friends and hopefully draw some attention their way.

    In the end it might all be for nothing. But if it brings a little happiness or excitement to someone it's worth it. Seeing that people in China and Russia, Japan and Europe and other places all over the world have seen something I put together is an amazing reward.

    I do wish I could make a living with it but even if I managed to devote the time required Im not sure if what I have to offer would be able to get the views.

    What some of you have built on YouTube and other social media sites is impressive. I'm just beginning to get an idea of what it takes to have even a small amount of success. I'm so far away from being monetized the thought of it is just a fantasy.

    I hope that by surrounding myself with people more talented than I am that I can grow. I appreciate the opportunity this Forum provides. I'm glad to be able to learn from people who are where I would like to be someday. Maybe I'll get there, maybe I won't. But I never would have gotten this far if not for this Forum and the people willing to share their creativity and feedback.

    Apologies if I'm dragging the conversation off track. Just random thoughts, some self justification and a little appreciation for the people who are putting themselves out there.

    Beautifully expressed and I just wanted to thank you for sharing your vulnerability. I relate with this so much. Cheers

  • @Gravitas said:

    @BroCoast said:

    @Gravitas said:
    @JGD
    This (from the Beepstreet Forum) I would happily add to a dubstep playlist

    I mean that’s impressive but at the same time I’d almost struggle to call that a track.

    Why?
    Not being confrontational simply asking for your honest opinion.

    Tacking on that I think this track is dope, the tension and journey is well worth the time.

  • edited October 28

    @offbrands said:

    @Gravitas said:

    @BroCoast said:

    @Gravitas said:
    @JGD
    This (from the Beepstreet Forum) I would happily add to a dubstep playlist

    I mean that’s impressive but at the same time I’d almost struggle to call that a track.

    Why?
    Not being confrontational simply asking for your honest opinion.

    Tacking on that I think this track is dope, the tension and journey is well worth the time.

    Agreed.
    I'm currently listening to his BandCamp and it's dope.

    https://lisson.bandcamp.com/album/lisson

    https://lisson.bandcamp.com/track/loot-2

    He's from London so seeing if I can sort out a link up to chat dRambo and other shizzle.

  • edited October 28

    @Gravitas said:

    @offbrands said:

    @Gravitas said:

    @BroCoast said:

    @Gravitas said:
    @JGD
    This (from the Beepstreet Forum) I would happily add to a dubstep playlist

    I mean that’s impressive but at the same time I’d almost struggle to call that a track.

    Why?
    Not being confrontational simply asking for your honest opinion.

    Tacking on that I think this track is dope, the tension and journey is well worth the time.

    Agreed.
    I'm currently listening to his BandCamp and it's dope.

    https://lisson.bandcamp.com/album/lisson

    https://lisson.bandcamp.com/track/loot-2

    He's from London so seeing if I can sort out a link up to chat dRambo and other shizzle.

    Good hunting! Give them some ups from me if that ever comes to fruition.

  • @offbrands said:

    Good hunting! Give them some ups from me if that ever comes to fruition.

    Will do and if he's up for it I may even do a dRambo special.

    I’m curious of the users of Drambo. I recall Benn Jordan mentioning his love of Drambo on a video years ago and I wonder if he ever talked more about that or continues to use it.

    I don't know who Benn Jordan is however now that I have his monniker I'll go have a listen.

    There's been quite a few things bubbling under the surface for dRambo.
    the dRambo Facebook group is now 1.9k strong and is turning up
    on ModWiggler Forum and the Elektron Forum as a sequencer of choice.
    There's also some dRambo users who do a weekly live stream who use dRambo for sequencing and possibly effects.
    They are more modular and semi-modular focused however
    in this livestream you can see them using their ipads with dRambo on it.
    Their channel is called Pittsburgh Modular Synthesizers.

    https://www.youtube.com/live/ECkCu4NXw6U

  • @offbrands
    Dude, I dropped Benn Jordon's name into Google and this was the first Youtube video that came up in the search.

    I'm currently listening to it whilst I type because
    I only got about a third of the way through watching it and
    the amount of toxicity he's had to face is insane.

    He was told that "he should be wiped off the planet" that he was an "influencer shill",
    and that he should "kill himself"....and that viewers have attacked him and others
    about gender, sexuality etc...

    Wow.

    I think that the iOS platform are doing rather well in that regards.

    Thank you mods.

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