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There’s no actual dry/wet, but if you patch the external audio directly into the mixer, and then patch your processed audio into it as well, then patch the mixer out to the VCA in that should basically be the same thing, as long as you’re using the VCA in open mode.
I'm not modular guy normally but I'm having a lot of fun with this. It's been a great example for me of how limited options can give rise to creativity in a way that endless options rarely can.
Yes, it makes you rethink what you’re doing to work with it. See above for a real time (well, almost) example in my case, wanting a couple of attenuverters and then realising you can use the surgeons as (slightly weird) attenuverters. This is a very well thought out instrument.
Thanks!
Jakob and myself had a lot of brainstorm sessions to condense his pretty extensive "haQ-rack" into a single-screen modular instrument.
Being able to use modules for multiple different purposes was a key concept for us (it's also an important principle in Jakob's sound design workflow). So that makes this an instrument that superficially seems quite simple and approachable, but which has a lot of hidden depth once you dive in.
Is there a way that I am overlooking to use note velocity or aftertouch as a modulator? I've looked at the docs and don't see this. So, the answer may be no.
Are you taking about all this patching external into the mixer, etc. directly in the solderbox app? I don't see any mixer input on solderbox. Are you talking about an external mixer?
It'd be better if there was a simply dry/wet dial/slider in the app when using is as an effect in hosts like AUM.
If I've got this wrong, please elaborate. I was mostly enjoying using solderbox as an effect only, but I wish I should easily control dry/wet with it.
I don't see any VCA "open" mode. Is that the eg/on switch?
Solderbox is only one screen right?
Sorry, the mixer I referred to is the utility section. Hope that helps.
Edit: the VCA is open when the switch is set to on, ie not being modulated by the envelope.
I'm not sure this the best way, but I'd patch
ext audioto utilityin 2in addition to where you have it. Then patch the end of your wet signal chain toin 1andmix outtovca in.att 1is then your wet level andatt 2is dry.Or, if using AUM, just put Solderbox on a bus instead and use a bus send. That might be simpler and doesn't use up any utility inputs. It also lets you control the delay in the wet/dry mix, which you can't do internally as far as I can tell.
Which of the outs is ext audio?
I think the AUM bus send is likely the best though... thanks!
is "sum out" or "out 1" under the utility column the ext audio?
thanks!
I'm not sure I understand the question.
The
mix outgoes to the VCA. The VCA goes to the delay and then to the output.What this is doing is sending into the utility section, which acts like a mixer. So basically you're sending one copy of the external input through whatever processing you want to do and into
in 1- that's your wet signal. An unaffected copy of the input is going toin 2- that's your dry signal. The attenuverters set the levels of the wet and dry signals, which goes to the mix out. If you look at the signal path on the right, the VCA is the last place in the chain before output, so that's where the mix needs to go.I hope that makes sense. The other way is simpler, but feels like cheating as far as modular geekery goes. 😉
Maybe this screenshot will help. The wet signal is just going through the shaper in this example.
So, the external audio is patched into the shaper for processing, and also the dry signal goes into input 1 of the utility module. (Blue cables)
The output of the shaper is patched into input 2 of the utility module. (Purple cable)
The mix output from the utility module is patched to the VCA input, and the VCA has the switch set to ON so it’s open (ie the sound just goes through it rather than being affected by the envelope). (Pink cable)
In the utility module, which is acting as an audio mixer here:
This is an ignorant question, is this semilodular structure possible in an app like MiRack?
Not ignorant. MiRack is inherently a Fully Modular Application Semi-Modular is describing that this app isn’t fully modular if that makes sense.
I agree, that's not an ignorant question at all.
Semi modular just means that some things are pre-wired so you don't have to patch them unless you want to change the signal path. It also means you can't substitute modules, they're fixed at what they are. miRack doesn't have any such pre-wiring and it doesn't have fixed modules. So it really can't be called semi modular.
On the other hand, you can set up templates in miRack with modules already added and pre-wired. So, in that sense it's capable to be used in a DIY semi modular way.
It might be fun to set up something in miRack that approximates Solderbox.
Much better and more through response. Thanks @wim
There is some metric modulation going on with pulsequencer right? Or am I just tripping yall
metric modulation? What do you mean by that?
(Meaning the rhythm is modulated by the pulse and parameters etc ; I’m pretty sure it does do it with the semi generative sequencing)
Thank you!
Thank you so much for the thoughtful response!
~~You said, “patch ext audio to utility in 2”
My question was, which one is “ext audio”?~~
Never mind. I see it now. There were too many opaque cables and I couldn’t see the labels.
Thanks
What is that nearly unreadable typeface for the logo? Is that supposed to look like a street tag or something? If so, I don’t get the relationship to modular. Are street tags still a thing?
A style of artwork by Jakob I imagine? It brought some memories from youth seeing that style on the app for sure. Never got up though as I’m petrified of heights nor was I anu amount of artistically creative enough to do so that street style graffiti. I thought it was dope
Thanks! 🙏 I think I’ll just do an AUM send
too
I’m familiar with it. Not a fan of that style. Never got into it when it was popular back in the day. Too cryptic.
Though, still not sure how street tag style art would relate to this app, but it doesn’t really matter. Just curious why they chose something that difficult to read as the logo.
I think Jakob used something like that on his collab with Kai Aras on Agonizer. I didn’t care for it there either, and noticed the Agonizer logo has now been changed to a more readable, clean logo.
I assumed it was meant to look as if it was made of blobs of solder (as on a circuit board)?
We have a winner, I believe.
I like the logo a lot. I can look at the window header or open AUBE if I need to remember the title, It's also considerably easier to read than half the tags i've seen in my life, so they were kind to the older eyes imo
Ah!!! That makes sense and fits with the app! - I do graphic design work and am often tasked with trying to come up with appropriate logos for various uses. The artistic interface design of music apps in general is also one of the ways I secretly geek out with them. Bram's apps are always nicely designed and I couldn't figure out the logic in the street tag looking style of the logo. I mostly associate street tag art with either hip-hop, rap, or possibly punk. I wasn't sure if modular sounds are typically used any any of those genres.
However, the soldering blob style decision makes perfect sense now.
Thanks! @Robin2 (mystery solved lol)
@skiphunt
Now that you mention it, modular setups have gotten quite popular in the hip-hop crowd these days. To the point of a newer company being formed creating modules specifically aimed at boombap.
https://www.modbap.com/