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  • edited February 9

    For my own ,in addition to the overall quality of the application, I'd need an integrated sequencer of the pure Acid type, or what egnodes or MelodyBud offer, which is simple and effective with randomness. B)
    My proposition : A mono and a poly séquencer 👌

  • edited February 9

    @cuscolima said:

    @reezygle said:
    Here’s a jam with GR-2 (center of the show), Gadget (drums), GeoShred, IAA in AUM
    AUs: Riffler, King of Bass, Rozeta arpaggiator, Piano Motifs.

    It’s hard to show everything that’s going on here. So much fun. I can’t wait for the Launch Pad Pro support that’s coming.

    Cheers!

    Great show here!

    Thank you! GR-2 makes a great fun center piece for live performance. Just like GR-16 it’ll get even better with time. Anxiously waiting for Launchpad Pro integration.

    One thing that I miss here is the GR-16 style song mode where you can string together patterns. In GR-2 song mode is inside the pattern. I’d like to see a “song of songs” feature. I can envision automated A/B mixing between a string of pattern songs. With this functionality you’d be able to automate a full DJ set.

    Edit: Emailed a feature request.

  • @Pierre118 said:
    @jwmmakerofmusic Do you find GR-2 capable of making ambient music, like you do it with Cubasis 3?

    Haven't tried Ambient in it juuust yet. Still working on my remake of my old track "Dragon Skies" first. But I have a sneaking suspicion that GR-II can do Ambient quite nicely. I'll let you know, mate. :) Or at least I'll post under "Creations". Just look out for the title "Ambient done in GR-II". 😂

  • @reezygle said:
    Here’s a jam with GR-2 (center of the show), Gadget (drums), GeoShred, IAA in AUM
    AUs: Riffler, King of Bass, Rozeta arpaggiator, Piano Motifs.

    It’s hard to show everything that’s going on here. So much fun. I can’t wait for the Launch Pad Pro support that’s coming.

    Cheers!

    this is sick dude, fantastic work

    i'm impressed with your Geoshred chops

  • @jwmmakerofmusic said:

    @Pierre118 said:
    @jwmmakerofmusic Do you find GR-2 capable of making ambient music, like you do it with Cubasis 3?

    Haven't tried Ambient in it juuust yet. Still working on my remake of my old track "Dragon Skies" first. But I have a sneaking suspicion that GR-II can do Ambient quite nicely. I'll let you know, mate. :) Or at least I'll post under "Creations". Just look out for the title "Ambient done in GR-II". 😂

    Great! Looking forward to it.

  • @biggir said:
    For my own ,in addition to the overall quality of the application, I'd need an integrated sequencer of the pure Acid type, or what egnodes or MelodyBud offer, which is simple and effective with randomness. B)
    My proposition : A mono and a poly séquencer 👌

    You can use the pure acid sequencer or anything else AUv3 by putting it on a layer. Verified with Thesys, Senode, Pure Acid, Sunvox, Harmony Bloom, and others.

  • @drewinnit said:

    @reezygle said:
    Here’s a jam with GR-2 (center of the show), Gadget (drums), GeoShred, IAA in AUM
    AUs: Riffler, King of Bass, Rozeta arpaggiator, Piano Motifs.

    It’s hard to show everything that’s going on here. So much fun. I can’t wait for the Launch Pad Pro support that’s coming.

    Cheers!

    this is sick dude, fantastic work

    i'm impressed with your Geoshred chops

    Thank you! GeoShred is a go to for live performance for me. Sometimes it crashes or hangs. You’ll notice it in the video. I’m just making the crashes part of the performance. 🙂

    @biggir I love the Bass sequencer randomization in Pure Acid.

    Right now I’m having fun with the GR-2 arpeggiator sequences. If Jim creates ARP sequence randomization to go beyond the 42 built in hard coded ARP sequences, playing chords through a randomized ARP would make it even more powerful than Pure Acid’s bass sequence randomizer. I’ll send a feature request.

  • @jwmmakerofmusic said:

    @auxmux said:
    It's growing in me.

    😂🤣 Lol, sorry, but this typo was too funny not to respond to.

    The step sequencer need work but sticking to piano roll makes it more fun.

    I'm more of a piano roll guy myself, and Jim made a great one! Like Nanostudio 2's, but with probability added in for good measure. That said, perhaps an improved Step Sequencer will help those used to GR-16's OG workflow.

    Lmao. I meant it's growing in my heart...

    That's what happens when you post 5 mins after waking up.

    Also, it doesn't seem like AU macro knobs are automatable?

  • @auxmux said:

    @jwmmakerofmusic said:

    @auxmux said:
    It's growing in me.

    😂🤣 Lol, sorry, but this typo was too funny not to respond to.

    The step sequencer need work but sticking to piano roll makes it more fun.

    I'm more of a piano roll guy myself, and Jim made a great one! Like Nanostudio 2's, but with probability added in for good measure. That said, perhaps an improved Step Sequencer will help those used to GR-16's OG workflow.

    Lmao. I meant it's growing in my heart...

    That's what happens when you post 5 mins after waking up.

    Also, it doesn't seem like AU macro knobs are automatable?

    I think someone else said that. I don’t have my iPad with me right now or I’d check.

    If you can’t, that would definitely be a great enhancement for a future version.

  • wimwim
    edited February 9

    @auxmux what do you mean by “AU macro knobs”?

  • @auxmux said:

    @jwmmakerofmusic said:

    @auxmux said:
    It's growing in me.

    😂🤣 Lol, sorry, but this typo was too funny not to respond to.

    The step sequencer need work but sticking to piano roll makes it more fun.

    I'm more of a piano roll guy myself, and Jim made a great one! Like Nanostudio 2's, but with probability added in for good measure. That said, perhaps an improved Step Sequencer will help those used to GR-16's OG workflow.

    Lmao. I meant it's growing in my heart...

    That's what happens when you post 5 mins after waking up.

    Also, it doesn't seem like AU macro knobs are automatable?

    I'm pretty sure I've managed this. I don't believe all auv3's are going to behave. I automated some Dagger macro knobs. Obviously need to have created a clip first to record it :) Not sure about song mode.

  • Also, it doesn't seem like AU macro knobs are automatable?

    I think someone else said that. I don’t have my iPad with me right now or I’d check.

    If you can’t, that would definitely be a great enhancement for a future version.

    You can automate exposed AU parameters. I tried it with Zeeon and it worked. GR-2 exposes the first 9 parameters for you because that’s how many fit in the UI. You can change the mapped parameters by long pressing the layer and selecting “Redefine AU knobs” from the drop down.

    Once you do that you can click any of the macros in the layer (in picture below I was remapping the second macro knob).

    Then click on the AU to open it in the UI and touch any knob in the AU. It maps it to the macro you had chosen.

    It kinda works like how you map AU parameters in Drambo. In this case, GR-2 exposes the first 9 for you. In Drambo you have to do all of them yourself.

  • So by macro, y’all mean the knobs that you can map to parameters then? That’s a 1-1 connection, so not really “macro” then to me. Sorry, I thought maybe I missed a feature there.

  • @wim said:
    So by macro, y’all mean the knobs that you can map to parameters then? That’s a 1-1 connection, so not really “macro” then to me. Sorry, I thought maybe I missed a feature there.

    Thank you for clarifying that. Yes you are absolutely right. Macros are usually referred to something that changes multiple parameters at the same time. Unless I misunderstood the original question, I responded to the intent of the question.

    Now, if the AU has a “real” macro knob in it, and it exposes to its AU host, then the AU macro can be automated.

  • @reezygle said:

    Also, it doesn't seem like AU macro knobs are automatable?

    I think someone else said that. I don’t have my iPad with me right now or I’d check.

    If you can’t, that would definitely be a great enhancement for a future version.

    You can automate exposed AU parameters. I tried it with Zeeon and it worked. GR-2 exposes the first 9 parameters for you because that’s how many fit in the UI. You can change the mapped parameters by long pressing the layer and selecting “Redefine AU knobs” from the drop down.

    Once you do that you can click any of the macros in the layer (in picture below I was remapping the second macro knob).

    Then click on the AU to open it in the UI and touch any knob in the AU. It maps it to the macro you had chosen.

    It kinda works like how you map AU parameters in Drambo. In this case, GR-2 exposes the first 9 for you. In Drambo you have to do all of them yourself.

    Thank you…

  • @reezygle said:

    Also, it doesn't seem like AU macro knobs are automatable?

    I think someone else said that. I don’t have my iPad with me right now or I’d check.

    If you can’t, that would definitely be a great enhancement for a future version.

    You can automate exposed AU parameters. I tried it with Zeeon and it worked. GR-2 exposes the first 9 parameters for you because that’s how many fit in the UI. You can change the mapped parameters by long pressing the layer and selecting “Redefine AU knobs” from the drop down.

    Once you do that you can click any of the macros in the layer (in picture below I was remapping the second macro knob).

    Then click on the AU to open it in the UI and touch any knob in the AU. It maps it to the macro you had chosen.

    It kinda works like how you map AU parameters in Drambo. In this case, GR-2 exposes the first 9 for you. In Drambo you have to do all of them yourself.

    Thank you for this! I didn't know this. :)

  • @reezygle said:

    @drewinnit said:

    @reezygle said:
    Here’s a jam with GR-2 (center of the show), Gadget (drums), GeoShred, IAA in AUM
    AUs: Riffler, King of Bass, Rozeta arpaggiator, Piano Motifs.

    It’s hard to show everything that’s going on here. So much fun. I can’t wait for the Launch Pad Pro support that’s coming.

    Cheers!

    this is sick dude, fantastic work

    i'm impressed with your Geoshred chops

    Thank you! GeoShred is a go to for live performance for me. Sometimes it crashes or hangs. You’ll notice it in the video. I’m just making the crashes part of the performance. 🙂

    @biggir I love the Bass sequencer randomization in Pure Acid.

    Right now I’m having fun with the GR-2 arpeggiator sequences. If Jim creates ARP sequence randomization to go beyond the 42 built in hard coded ARP sequences, playing chords through a randomized ARP would make it even more powerful than Pure Acid’s bass sequence randomizer. I’ll send a feature request.

    Gr2 is lacking a fullscreen performance page

  • @RajahP @jwmmakerofmusic My pleasure. Glad to help.

    @cokomairena Your right but it’s not a big deal for me when mapped to a hardware or app midi controller. For example you can create custom LoopyPro or TouchOSC surfaces for it. I think it would be too much to ask for within the app itself, given it is really designed as a groovebox.

  • @reezygle said:

    Also, it doesn't seem like AU macro knobs are automatable?

    I think someone else said that. I don’t have my iPad with me right now or I’d check.

    If you can’t, that would definitely be a great enhancement for a future version.

    You can automate exposed AU parameters. I tried it with Zeeon and it worked. GR-2 exposes the first 9 parameters for you because that’s how many fit in the UI. You can change the mapped parameters by long pressing the layer and selecting “Redefine AU knobs” from the drop down.

    Once you do that you can click any of the macros in the layer (in picture below I was remapping the second macro knob).

    Then click on the AU to open it in the UI and touch any knob in the AU. It maps it to the macro you had chosen.

    It kinda works like how you map AU parameters in Drambo. In this case, GR-2 exposes the first 9 for you. In Drambo you have to do all of them yourself.

    Thank you. It’s amazing how deep this app is.

  • edited February 10

    Mapping AU parameters works but automation might be hit or miss. Automaton didn't work with Continua.

  • @auxmux I have not ran into issues with AU parameter automation. I don’t have Continua to test. It’s worth sending a bug report to [email protected].

    @cyberheater My pleasure. I completely agree. I just ran into yet another handy feature when mapping AU parameters. When you “Redefine AU knobs” choose the first parameter in GR-2 to map, then pop open the AU and start twisting knobs in the AU. As you turn each knob in the AU, it maps it to the GR-2 knobs in order. You can map all 9 parameters in GR-2 in one take vs having to go back and forth selecting a knob in GR-2 then turning a knob in the AU to map it.

  • edited February 10

    Another warning to save your projects, just had a very good 3 hour session, I actually recorded a bunch of midi loops from my circuit tracks and rhythm. That worked fairly well (not perfect) using multi channel in. I had to edit a bunch of the midi notes, remap notes for the drum tracks, recreated synth sounds using the inbuilt synth, used the drum rack to load my circuit samples for drums, the sampler for my samples from circuit rhythm which I imported via files.
    All worked up to now. Re arranged the loops into some form of playable arrangement, did some tweaking on the mix and fx, all sounding pretty good.
    Went for a song record, got to the end of the song and on the final loop, bang, crash, no recording, lost most of my work.
    I so wish I had hit save before trying the song record :cry:

  • I ran into a bug with midi mapping and recording automation.

    It seems like when a knob (for example cutoff filter on a synth layer) is midi mapped to an external controller, when recording, the knob automation is not recorded if I’m moving the knob from the external controller.

    Sent a bug report.

  • Is there a discord or anywhere else that Jim is active on besides the Facebook group?

  • Yep, some of them are working, others not> @auxmux said:

    Mapping AU parameters works but automation might be hit or miss. Automaton didn't work with Continua.

  • @AndyPlankton said:
    Another warning to save your projects, just had a very good 3 hour session, I actually recorded a bunch of midi loops from my circuit tracks and rhythm. That worked fairly well (not perfect) using multi channel in. I had to edit a bunch of the midi notes, remap notes for the drum tracks, recreated synth sounds using the inbuilt synth, used the drum rack to load my circuit samples for drums, the sampler for my samples from circuit rhythm which I imported via files.
    All worked up to now. Re arranged the loops into some form of playable arrangement, did some tweaking on the mix and fx, all sounding pretty good.
    Went for a song record, got to the end of the song and on the final loop, bang, crash, no recording, lost most of my work.
    I so wish I had hit save before trying the song record :cry:

    Auto save is my number one request for this app. I’ve lost work as well.

  • edited February 10

    @geremy said:

    @biggir said:
    For my own ,in addition to the overall quality of the application, I'd need an integrated sequencer of the pure Acid type, or what egnodes or MelodyBud offer, which is simple and effective with randomness. B)
    My proposition : A mono and a poly séquencer 👌

    You can use the pure acid sequencer or anything else AUv3 by putting it on a layer. Verified with Thesys, Senode, Pure Acid, Sunvox, Harmony Bloom, and others.

    Exact, but integrated mono sequenceur will be much more ux, and we could use EDIT page.
    With multiple section or sub page for velocity, prob ... Personnaly i found settings velocity for ex non ux at all ... Let's give he some time 👌

  • edited February 10

    Couldn't resist and bought it yesterday. So far so good, seems like perfect blend between DAW, groovebox and performance surface. The only thing it's me being stupid or auv3 fx can only be used only on sends? I'm thinking about granulators like Silo, BeatCutter, Scatterbrain and similar stuff

  • @lazyass said:
    Couldn't resist and bought it yesterday. So far so good, seems like perfect blend between DAW, groovebox and performance surface. The only thing it's me being stupid or auv3 fx can only be used only on sends? I'm thinking about granulators like Silo, BeatCutter, Scatterbrain and similar stuff

    Yep, or as Master FX. They can't be used as IFX on an individual part. I expect this is to help save users from themselves rather than a technical limitation (eg. trying to load 48 AuV3 FX apps and wrecking things).

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