Jim Audio Groove Rider 2 - RELEASED

Sergiu

Yeah , I know the parts volume can be mapped , but would be more efficient to be able to see the mixer faders , while jamming ( I guess depends on the workflow ) . I like the song mode too…and sometimes I like to jam straight from the mixer view and record that…especially if you’re using midi controllers ( like faderfox mx12)

Cambler

Possibly stupid question from someone who has not as yet gelled with clip based composing. After creating a bunch of clips how does one then work/order these into a composition that can be exported?

Michael_R_Grant

@Edward_Alexander said:
I wouldn’t mind having a search bar at the top of the AUv3, and the top of the AUV3 effect lists.

'Wouldn't mind' is nowhere near strong enough - I'd say it's obligatory at this point to have search functionality for this, as the list can be so long for power users!

Sergiu

Long press on clip , copy and paste it into song mode> @Cambler said:

Possibly stupid question from someone who has not as yet gelled with clip based composing. After creating a bunch of clips how does one then work/order these into a composition that can be exported?

Johnmayo

@Michael_R_Grant said:

@Edward_Alexander said:
I wouldn’t mind having a search bar at the top of the AUv3, and the top of the AUV3 effect lists.

'Wouldn't mind' is nowhere near strong enough - I'd say it's obligatory at this point to have search functionality for this, as the list can be so long for power users!

I also have trouble scrolling to the end of the list on my screen.

AndyPlankton

@Sergiu said:
Long press on clip , copy and paste it into song mode> @Cambler said:

Possibly stupid question from someone who has not as yet gelled with clip based composing. After creating a bunch of clips how does one then work/order these into a composition that can be exported?

or

Turn on SongMode, Press record, jam with your clips, the output will go into the song timeline

cokomairena

@Sergiu said:
Yeah , I know the parts volume can be mapped , but would be more efficient to be able to see the mixer faders , while jamming ( I guess depends on the workflow ) . I like the song mode too…and sometimes I like to jam straight from the mixer view and record that…especially if you’re using midi controllers ( like faderfox mx12)

parts volume it's exactly the same as mixer faders, they are just presented different, but it's exactly the same parameter

cokomairena

@Johnmayo said:

@Michael_R_Grant said:

@Edward_Alexander said:
I wouldn’t mind having a search bar at the top of the AUv3, and the top of the AUV3 effect lists.

'Wouldn't mind' is nowhere near strong enough - I'd say it's obligatory at this point to have search functionality for this, as the list can be so long for power users!

I also have trouble scrolling to the end of the list on my screen.

did you report it by email, I have the same problem! I just don't want to send a duplicated request

Johnmayo

@cokomairena said:

@Johnmayo said:

@Michael_R_Grant said:

@Edward_Alexander said:
I wouldn’t mind having a search bar at the top of the AUv3, and the top of the AUV3 effect lists.

'Wouldn't mind' is nowhere near strong enough - I'd say it's obligatory at this point to have search functionality for this, as the list can be so long for power users!

I also have trouble scrolling to the end of the list on my screen.

did you report it by email, I have the same problem! I just don't want to send a duplicated request

I didn’t. I have a habit of complaining too much so I’ve been trying to be more patient lol

Sergiu

Yeah totally, it’s about the whole project levels in an overview…it’s like having presonus faderport controller or an actual mixer with all channels in front of you!> @cokomairena said:

@Sergiu said:
Yeah , I know the parts volume can be mapped , but would be more efficient to be able to see the mixer faders , while jamming ( I guess depends on the workflow ) . I like the song mode too…and sometimes I like to jam straight from the mixer view and record that…especially if you’re using midi controllers ( like faderfox mx12)

parts volume it's exactly the same as mixer faders, they are just presented different, but it's exactly the same parameter

cokomairena

@Johnmayo said:

@cokomairena said:

@Johnmayo said:

@Michael_R_Grant said:

@Edward_Alexander said:
I wouldn’t mind having a search bar at the top of the AUv3, and the top of the AUV3 effect lists.

'Wouldn't mind' is nowhere near strong enough - I'd say it's obligatory at this point to have search functionality for this, as the list can be so long for power users!

I also have trouble scrolling to the end of the list on my screen.

did you report it by email, I have the same problem! I just don't want to send a duplicated request

I didn’t. I have a habit of complaining too much so I’ve been trying to be more patient lol

I sent a mail

Johnmayo

@cokomairena said:

@Johnmayo said:

@cokomairena said:

@Johnmayo said:

@Michael_R_Grant said:

@Edward_Alexander said:
I wouldn’t mind having a search bar at the top of the AUv3, and the top of the AUV3 effect lists.

'Wouldn't mind' is nowhere near strong enough - I'd say it's obligatory at this point to have search functionality for this, as the list can be so long for power users!

I also have trouble scrolling to the end of the list on my screen.

did you report it by email, I have the same problem! I just don't want to send a duplicated request

I didn’t. I have a habit of complaining too much so I’ve been trying to be more patient lol

I sent a mail

Cambler

@AndyPlankton said:

@Sergiu said:
Long press on clip , copy and paste it into song mode> @Cambler said:

Possibly stupid question from someone who has not as yet gelled with clip based composing. After creating a bunch of clips how does one then work/order these into a composition that can be exported?

or

Turn on SongMode, Press record, jam with your clips, the output will go into the song timeline

Aha! Thank you, this was the sort of thing I was thinking about. I assume the advantage of clips is their performative nature so this sounds like the way to go.

Frank303

@Frank303 said:

@Sergiu said:
Still needs work…you can only use one midi controller and some auv3’s are mapping, others won’t …the mixer faders cannot be mapped, yet but I’m sure Jim will work on those aspects. > @zzrwood said:

Does anyone know if there’s any way to get transport controls working with GR2 from a midi controller?

Send midi to gr2 from aum and connect any and all devices there ☺️
Faders can be mapped from the parts, the Level knob is the fader.
Also map the transport buttons in aum and you're set.

@Sergiu said:
Yeah , I know the parts volume can be mapped , but would be more efficient to be able to see the mixer faders , while jamming ( I guess depends on the workflow ) . I like the song mode too…and sometimes I like to jam straight from the mixer view and record that…especially if you’re using midi controllers ( like faderfox mx12)

When you map the Level of the track on the sound page (the knob all the way at the right), when you switch to the mixer page and move the assigned knob, the faders on the mixer page move 😉

Sergiu

Uhh..now that's sneaky ...thanks for the tip> @Frank303 said:

@Frank303 said:

@Sergiu said:
Still needs work…you can only use one midi controller and some auv3’s are mapping, others won’t …the mixer faders cannot be mapped, yet but I’m sure Jim will work on those aspects. > @zzrwood said:

Does anyone know if there’s any way to get transport controls working with GR2 from a midi controller?

Send midi to gr2 from aum and connect any and all devices there ☺️
Faders can be mapped from the parts, the Level knob is the fader.
Also map the transport buttons in aum and you're set.

@Sergiu said:
Yeah , I know the parts volume can be mapped , but would be more efficient to be able to see the mixer faders , while jamming ( I guess depends on the workflow ) . I like the song mode too…and sometimes I like to jam straight from the mixer view and record that…especially if you’re using midi controllers ( like faderfox mx12)

When you map the Level of the track on the sound page (the knob all the way at the right), when you switch to the mixer page and move the assigned knob, the faders on the mixer page move 😉

Sergiu

It works as long as you have only one part...I loaded a second one and the mapping moves over to the next one> @Sergiu said:

Uhh..now that's sneaky ...thanks for the tip> @Frank303 said:

@Frank303 said:

@Sergiu said:
Still needs work…you can only use one midi controller and some auv3’s are mapping, others won’t …the mixer faders cannot be mapped, yet but I’m sure Jim will work on those aspects. > @zzrwood said:

Does anyone know if there’s any way to get transport controls working with GR2 from a midi controller?

Send midi to gr2 from aum and connect any and all devices there ☺️
Faders can be mapped from the parts, the Level knob is the fader.
Also map the transport buttons in aum and you're set.

@Sergiu said:
Yeah , I know the parts volume can be mapped , but would be more efficient to be able to see the mixer faders , while jamming ( I guess depends on the workflow ) . I like the song mode too…and sometimes I like to jam straight from the mixer view and record that…especially if you’re using midi controllers ( like faderfox mx12)

When you map the Level of the track on the sound page (the knob all the way at the right), when you switch to the mixer page and move the assigned knob, the faders on the mixer page move 😉

cokomairena

@Sergiu said:
It works as long as you have only one part...I loaded a second one and the mapping moves over to the next one> @Sergiu said:

Uhh..now that's sneaky ...thanks for the tip> @Frank303 said:

@Frank303 said:

@Sergiu said:
Still needs work…you can only use one midi controller and some auv3’s are mapping, others won’t …the mixer faders cannot be mapped, yet but I’m sure Jim will work on those aspects. > @zzrwood said:

Does anyone know if there’s any way to get transport controls working with GR2 from a midi controller?

Send midi to gr2 from aum and connect any and all devices there ☺️
Faders can be mapped from the parts, the Level knob is the fader.
Also map the transport buttons in aum and you're set.

@Sergiu said:
Yeah , I know the parts volume can be mapped , but would be more efficient to be able to see the mixer faders , while jamming ( I guess depends on the workflow ) . I like the song mode too…and sometimes I like to jam straight from the mixer view and record that…especially if you’re using midi controllers ( like faderfox mx12)

When you map the Level of the track on the sound page (the knob all the way at the right), when you switch to the mixer page and move the assigned knob, the faders on the mixer page move 😉

Ooh i get you, does this happen with both single and poly midi in options?

Sergiu

Haven’t tied it yet with those settings> @cokomairena said:

@Sergiu said:
It works as long as you have only one part...I loaded a second one and the mapping moves over to the next one> @Sergiu said:

Uhh..now that's sneaky ...thanks for the tip> @Frank303 said:

@Frank303 said:

@Sergiu said:
Still needs work…you can only use one midi controller and some auv3’s are mapping, others won’t …the mixer faders cannot be mapped, yet but I’m sure Jim will work on those aspects. > @zzrwood said:

Does anyone know if there’s any way to get transport controls working with GR2 from a midi controller?

Send midi to gr2 from aum and connect any and all devices there ☺️
Faders can be mapped from the parts, the Level knob is the fader.
Also map the transport buttons in aum and you're set.

@Sergiu said:
Yeah , I know the parts volume can be mapped , but would be more efficient to be able to see the mixer faders , while jamming ( I guess depends on the workflow ) . I like the song mode too…and sometimes I like to jam straight from the mixer view and record that…especially if you’re using midi controllers ( like faderfox mx12)

When you map the Level of the track on the sound page (the knob all the way at the right), when you switch to the mixer page and move the assigned knob, the faders on the mixer page move 😉

Ooh i get you, does this happen with both single and poly midi in options?

wim

@Cambler said:
Possibly stupid question from someone who has not as yet gelled with clip based composing. After creating a bunch of clips how does one then work/order these into a composition that can be exported?

Others have already answered about the timeline, but there are also ways to arrange songs in the clip launcher.

The first is to think of every row as a "scene" of clips that you want to play together. The play button at the right of each row will trigger all clips in that row to start together. You can arrange by rows by copying clips here and there. Then you can launch each row in order. As soon as a scene starts playing, you can queue up the next row whenever you like.

The other is to think of each part (column) as an independently sequence able track. By hitting the Gear icon at the top-right you expose controls that you can set for number of repeats and which clip gets triggered next in that column.

To a timeline oriented person that's a very different workflow, and may not be helpful. But sometimes different approaches open up new avenues of creativity and spontaneity.

Since you can record clip performances to the timeline, these can also be a quicker, more interactive, way of getting a start on a timeline based arrangement, to be adjusted later.

cokomairena

I prefer to record directly to the timeline but clip actions are cool for randomization

wim

@cokomairena said:
I prefer to record directly to the timeline but clip actions are cool for randomization

Same.
Just listing all the options for completeness.

I do find arranging in scene rows in the clip launcher a little less clunky way of at least organizing the clips I want playing together at any one time than using the timeline, which I find a bit clunky to use at this time.

With so little available in the way of labeling, moving things around on the grid seems simpler to me. Then dumping to the timeline is just a matter of walking through the rows rather than trying to remember a bunch of combinations of nameless clips in the grid, what order I want to play them when dumping into the timeline, and then where they ended up once I do.

reezygle

Ran into a bug. Loading a drum rack into an existing part (overwrite layer) crashes GR-2 . Is anyone else experiencing this? I’m on latest iOS on an M1 iPad.

Gonna send a bug report.

anickt

@reezygle said:
Ran into a bug. Loading a drum rack into an existing part (overwrite layer) crashes GR-2 . Is anyone else experiencing this? I’m on latest iOS on an M1 iPad.

Gonna send a bug report.

Can’t replicate on iPad 8 18.3.1. Maybe it’s an M1 issue?

Cambler

@wim said:

@Cambler said:
Possibly stupid question from someone who has not as yet gelled with clip based composing. After creating a bunch of clips how does one then work/order these into a composition that can be exported?

Others have already answered about the timeline, but there are also ways to arrange songs in the clip launcher.

The first is to think of every row as a "scene" of clips that you want to play together. The play button at the right of each row will trigger all clips in that row to start together. You can arrange by rows by copying clips here and there. Then you can launch each row in order. As soon as a scene starts playing, you can queue up the next row whenever you like.

The other is to think of each part (column) as an independently sequence able track. By hitting the Gear icon at the top-right you expose controls that you can set for number of repeats and which clip gets triggered next in that column.

To a timeline oriented person that's a very different workflow, and may not be helpful. But sometimes different approaches open up new avenues of creativity and spontaneity.

Since you can record clip performances to the timeline, these can also be a quicker, more interactive, way of getting a start on a timeline based arrangement, to be adjusted later.

@wim you are a total legend. This explanation and approach has provided my first proper explanation of, and usable approach for the use of clips. Really appreciate you taken the time out with this.

Cambler

@Cambler said:

@wim said:

@Cambler said:
Possibly stupid question from someone who has not as yet gelled with clip based composing. After creating a bunch of clips how does one then work/order these into a composition that can be exported?

Others have already answered about the timeline, but there are also ways to arrange songs in the clip launcher.

The first is to think of every row as a "scene" of clips that you want to play together. The play button at the right of each row will trigger all clips in that row to start together. You can arrange by rows by copying clips here and there. Then you can launch each row in order. As soon as a scene starts playing, you can queue up the next row whenever you like.

The other is to think of each part (column) as an independently sequence able track. By hitting the Gear icon at the top-right you expose controls that you can set for number of repeats and which clip gets triggered next in that column.

To a timeline oriented person that's a very different workflow, and may not be helpful. But sometimes different approaches open up new avenues of creativity and spontaneity.

Since you can record clip performances to the timeline, these can also be a quicker, more interactive, way of getting a start on a timeline based arrangement, to be adjusted later.

@wim you are a total legend. This explanation and approach has provided my first proper explanation of, and usable approach for the use of clips. Really appreciate you taken the time out with this.

Quick stupid question. How do you record your clip performances to the timeline? Ie. not just transferring one clip at a time.

wim

Not a stupid question at all. It's not at all obvious.

• Go to the song page and turn on Song Mode
• Go back to the clips page.
• Arm recording by pressing the record button.
• Tap to arm/disarm the clips you want playing on start. They'll have a white outline if they're armed.
• Press play
• Proceed to change clips / scenes as you like. They'll end up in the timeline as played.
• Go to the timeline and press "Back to Song" to get out of clip mode.

reezygle

@anickt said:

@reezygle said:
Ran into a bug. Loading a drum rack into an existing part (overwrite layer) crashes GR-2 . Is anyone else experiencing this? I’m on latest iOS on an M1 iPad.

Gonna send a bug report.

Can’t replicate on iPad 8 18.3.1. Maybe it’s an M1 issue?

It just started happening the past couple of days. It wasn’t happening before. I emailed a bug report. We’ll see.

drewinnit

@reezygle i did a quick test and my drum rack loaded without crashing. M2 Pro, iOS 16

Hope the bug gets squashed quickly for those affected by it

Edit - have you tried loading different drum racks? Might it be a sample in a certain rack?

cokomairena

@reezygle said:
Ran into a bug. Loading a drum rack into an existing part (overwrite layer) crashes GR-2 . Is anyone else experiencing this? I’m on latest iOS on an M1 iPad.

Gonna send a bug report.

Mine load ok, might be a sample, maybe send the drum you are loading

wim

@reezygle said:
It just started happening the past couple of days. It wasn’t happening before. I emailed a bug report. We’ll see.

didja try a reboot?