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Apartheid is Fascism ( or: your crypto won’t save you when the jackboots come-a-marching).

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  • NeuMNeuM

    @Michael said:
    A warning to the hotheads: getting me involved means Loopy Pro takes longer to finish.

    Behave 😉

    LOL! 👍

  • NeuMNeuM
    edited December 2021

    @ExAsperis99 said:

    Love Martin Short. Ever see Neil Hamburger’s standup act?

  • JeffChasteenJeffChasteen

    @NeuM said:

    @JeffChasteen said:

    @NeuM said:

    @JeffChasteen said:

    @NeuM said:

    @JeffChasteen said:

    @tahiche said:
    Antifa = anti fascism = against fascism

    That’s as basic as semantics go.

    Antifa are not anti-fascists. They’re transnational terrorists who are funded and directed by Marxists in support of Communism. Everyone attached to Antifa should be charged with terrorism

    This has no semantic or historical base, this is a personal and subjective interpretation and meaningless extrapolation. Except, sadly, it’s not even “personal”.

    Nicely said.
    Sweet little sting at the end, as well.

    You still haven’t answered the most basic questions: Where’s the “fascism”? Who are the “fascists”?

    Because to a Communist, anything that isn’t Communism is “bad”.

    Calm down, Alisa (or if you prefer, Mrs O’Connor)
    you are sounding increasingly hysterical.

    Personal attacks are a sign this thread is about to be closed. Personal attacks are not arguments.

    Neither are your “arguments”

    Face it, you’re not engaging in a discussion. You’re slinging insults.

    Frankly, that is all you warrant.> @ExAsperis99 said:

    Why are you engaging with the goal-post mover!? Who said anything about Bernie Sanders! The deftness of deflection is breathtaking.

    You are being charitable.
    It is persistent, but I wouldn’t call it deft.

  • NeuMNeuM

    @JeffChasteen said:

    @NeuM said:

    @JeffChasteen said:

    @NeuM said:

    @JeffChasteen said:

    @NeuM said:

    @JeffChasteen said:

    @tahiche said:
    Antifa = anti fascism = against fascism

    That’s as basic as semantics go.

    Antifa are not anti-fascists. They’re transnational terrorists who are funded and directed by Marxists in support of Communism. Everyone attached to Antifa should be charged with terrorism

    This has no semantic or historical base, this is a personal and subjective interpretation and meaningless extrapolation. Except, sadly, it’s not even “personal”.

    Nicely said.
    Sweet little sting at the end, as well.

    You still haven’t answered the most basic questions: Where’s the “fascism”? Who are the “fascists”?

    Because to a Communist, anything that isn’t Communism is “bad”.

    Calm down, Alisa (or if you prefer, Mrs O’Connor)
    you are sounding increasingly hysterical.

    Personal attacks are a sign this thread is about to be closed. Personal attacks are not arguments.

    Neither are your “arguments”

    Face it, you’re not engaging in a discussion. You’re slinging insults.

    Frankly, that is all you warrant.> @ExAsperis99 said:

    Why are you engaging with the goal-post mover!? Who said anything about Bernie Sanders! The deftness of deflection is breathtaking.

    You are being charitable.
    It is persistent, but I wouldn’t call it deft.

    If you can make a point in favor of your side without personal attacks, you’ll get a response. I always invite the free exchange of ideas.

  • KrupaKrupa

    What might be useful information at this point is that from outside the U.S., the common view is that both parties there are further right, both fiscally and socially than those in most other democracies. Thus, compared to here in the U.K. the Democrats hold somewhere around the same position as our right wing mainstream party (the Conservatives). The Republicans are somewhere rightward of that, more so socially than anything else, as to be fair, U.S. fiscal politics are fairly restrained to a heavily deregulated so called ‘free’ market capitalism. Of course, that is caveated by the fact that much of that ‘free’ market is in fact captured by varied interest pools of influence, both from within the U.S. but more and more as their power wanes, from outside… (hence Deutschebank’s deep responsibility in the credit crisis debacle of the late noughties…)

  • NeuMNeuM

    @Krupa said:
    What might be useful information at this point is that from outside the U.S., the common view is that both parties there are further right, both fiscally and socially than those in most other democracies. Thus, compared to here in the U.K. the Democrats hold somewhere around the same position as our right wing mainstream party (the Conservatives). The Republicans are somewhere rightward of that, more so socially than anything else, as to be fair, U.S. fiscal politics are fairly restrained to a heavily deregulated so called ‘free’ market capitalism. Of course, that is caveated by the fact that much of that ‘free’ market is in fact captured by varied interest pools of influence, both from within the U.S. but more and more as their power wanes, from outside… (hence Deutschebank’s deep responsibility in the credit crisis debacle of the late noughties…)

    Frankly, there are few examples of actual “free markets” in the US. All are highly regulated.

  • espiegel123espiegel123

    @NeuM said:

    @espiegel123 said:

    @NeuM said:

    @FordTimeLord said:
    Imagine being so far right that you think Biden is a left wing extremist

    Whoever is making the decisions for Biden is a Left extremist. I don’t assume it’s one person.

    Biden is barely on the left let alone an extremist. I think you reveal your own extremism if barely-left-of-center is extreme left to you.

    You still didn't answer: do you think that the Trump administration was not a catastrophe?

    Is Donald Trump still the President?

    Here’s the state of the Democrats right now… Kamala Harris called Joe a racist during the primaries. She never took that back, even after he made her VP. That is a real mess. And judging by current polling numbers, neither Harris nor Biden will be able to be re-elected if either are running for President. And Democrats are going to be destroyed in the mid-terms.

    But to your point, the choice was between Clinton and Trump. I’m glad Clinton was not elected.

    I know the extreme Left would’ve preferred Sanders over Biden, but Sanders never had a chance.

    You still haven't answered the question. Please answer, it will help understand where you are coming from. You keep side-stepping the question. It is a simple question. Each time I have asked it you have changed the subject.

    Do you think that the Trump administration was not a catastrophe?

  • espiegel123espiegel123

    @tahiche : I agree that Biden is not even really left of center -- which only further emphasizes how far to the right the American right has become.

  • sevenapesevenape

    Guys guys guys. Delta Omicron is an acronym of MEDIA CONTROL.

    LET THAT SINK IN

  • LinearLinemanLinearLineman
    edited December 2021

    @BiancaNeve said:

    @sevenape said:
    I mean as far as I know only one “side” staged a real concerted attempt to end democracy in the states

    You truly believe that the bunch of people looking like lost tourists amazed that they had managed to get into the capitol constituted a real concerted attempt to end democracy?

    Yes, lost tourists with confederate flagpoles for assaulting police, tasers, hand ties, combat dress, hurling fire extinguishers… lol, a typical day at the NY Museum of Natural History. As far as the concerted attempt to overthrow democracy… we’ll, yeah, they were incited to overturn a lawful election. Let us not forget the Insurrectionist In Chief and his henchmen. Trump, Giuliani, Brooks, Eastman… all just fun loving tourists.

    As usual @NeuM i admire you for singlehandedly holding forth even though I totally disagree with almost everything you contend politically. You are a lone voice here as this forum has a way of shutting down strident right wingers. I only wish the demographics of the real world voices was a reflection of the overwhelming liberal concepts expressed here. Unfortunately, that is not the case.

    Let us not forget the background here in the US. For the first time in its existence the Supreme Court is removing liberty from it’s citizenry. In this case poor minority women who cannot afford a quick trip to New York for an abortion. It is overturning 50 yrs of rulings with justices making arguments like “a woman’s right isn’t being denied here… she can just have the baby and leave it on the doorstep of an orphanage”. Thank you for the compassion and empathy Justice Barrett! You speak for all women, I’m sure.

    So this is what the right wants… like the insurrectionists, just a bit of abortion tourism with some side shopping for baubles at Tiffany’s before returning home to Mississippi and the five kids and three jobs.

    Make America Grunt Again. No one can take away MY prognathic right to leaving guns around so my son murders four at his school. If you say otherwise… why, splutter, you're a bloody anti fascist!

    Well, @Michael, I think I have the record for shutting most political threads down. This may be your cue. I’m only sorry it's in a Creations thread. See what happens @sevenape when you leave the comfort of SOTMC? I totally defend your right to titles as artistic expression. But if I couldn’t post “Fucking Fugue” well, I guess you're in the same boat. You anti fascist, you.

  • MichaelMichael

    I want to leave it open so I can read more of @LinearLineman's writing :D

  • KrupaKrupa

    @0tolerance4silence said:
    How is that cool that a single person is enough to shut down a creation thread?

    Yeah this one was lovely until this afternoon, when that old overton window suddenly flew wide open and sprinkled ungraspable shards of glassy nonsense everywhere…

  • sevenapesevenape

    @LinearLineman said:

    @BiancaNeve said:

    @sevenape said:
    I mean as far as I know only one “side” staged a real concerted attempt to end democracy in the states

    You truly believe that the bunch of people looking like lost tourists amazed that they had managed to get into the capitol constituted a real concerted attempt to end democracy?

    Yes, lost tourists with confederate flagpoles for assaulting police, tasers, hand ties, combat dress, hurling fire extinguishers… lol, a typical day at the NY Museum of Natural History. As far as the concerted attempt to overthrow democracy… we’ll, yeah, they were incited to overturn a lawful election. Let us not forget the Insurrectionist In Chief and his henchmen. Trump, Giuliani, Brooks, Eastman… all just fun loving tourists.

    As usual @NeuM i admire you for singlehandedly holding forth even though I totally disagree with almost everything you contend politically. You are a lone voice here as this forum has a way of shutting down strident right wingers. I only wish the demographics of the real world voices was a reflection of the overwhelming liberal concepts expressed here. Unfortunately, that is not the case.

    Let us not forget the background here in the US. For the first time in its existence the Supreme Court is removing liberty from it’s citizenry. In this case poor minority women who cannot afford a quick trip to New York for an abortion. It is overturning 50 yrs of rulings with justices making arguments like “a woman’s right isn’t being denied here… she can just have the baby and leave it on the doorstep of an orphanage”. Thank you for the compassion and empathy Justice Barrett! You speak for all women, I’m sure.

    So this is what the right wants… like the insurrectionists, just a bit of abortion tourism with some side shopping for baubles at Tiffany’s before returning home to Mississippi and the five kids and three jobs.

    Make America Grunt Again. No one can take away MY prognathic right to leaving guns around so my son murders four at his school. If you say otherwise… why, splutter, you're a bloody anti fascist!

    Well, @Michael, I think I have the record for shutting most political threads down. This may be your cue. I’m only sorry it's in a Creations thread. See what happens @sevenape when you leave the comfort of SOTMC? I totally defend your right to titles as artistic expression. But if I couldn’t post “Fucking Fugue” well, I guess you're in the same boat. You anti fascist, you.

    Can you write my eulogy!?

    Anyway yeah I should have kept it in the right place. I’ll blame the brain fog. I stand by the title though. ;)

    @michael I’m sorry! On the other hand I’m also imagining what I might make with loopy Mactooty when it’s out!

  • KrupaKrupa

    @NeuM said:

    @Krupa said:
    What might be useful information at this point is that from outside the U.S., the common view is that both parties there are further right, both fiscally and socially than those in most other democracies. Thus, compared to here in the U.K. the Democrats hold somewhere around the same position as our right wing mainstream party (the Conservatives). The Republicans are somewhere rightward of that, more so socially than anything else, as to be fair, U.S. fiscal politics are fairly restrained to a heavily deregulated so called ‘free’ market capitalism. Of course, that is caveated by the fact that much of that ‘free’ market is in fact captured by varied interest pools of influence, both from within the U.S. but more and more as their power wanes, from outside… (hence Deutschebank’s deep responsibility in the credit crisis debacle of the late noughties…)

    Frankly, there are few examples of actual “free markets” in the US. All are highly regulated.

    You’re not wrong there, the capture of markets by vested interests with massive government subsidies is so great that people who lean rightward feel as comfortable arguing that real free market capitalism never got the fair hearing it deserved as those who argue that the Soviet union wasn’t a true expression of that ideology…

    (For reference, I’m thinking oil here btw subsidised to around 1/2 trillion dollars per year - https://www.nature.com/articles/d41586-021-02847-2)

  • JeffChasteenJeffChasteen
    edited December 2021

    @sevenape said:
    Guys guys guys. Delta Omicron is an acronym of MEDIA CONTROL.

    LET THAT SINK IN

  • ervinervin

    @tahiche said:

    @NeuM said:
    In the US, we are closer to having a Communist-led government than ever before in our history. The current administration is a catastrophe.

    LOL
    Estupendo, mate :)

  • JeffChasteenJeffChasteen

    @LinearLineman said:

    @BiancaNeve said:

    @sevenape said:
    I mean as far as I know only one “side” staged a real concerted attempt to end democracy in the states

    You truly believe that the bunch of people looking like lost tourists amazed that they had managed to get into the capitol constituted a real concerted attempt to end democracy?

    Yes, lost tourists with confederate flagpoles for assaulting police, tasers, hand ties, combat dress, hurling fire extinguishers… lol, a typical day at the NY Museum of Natural History. As far as the concerted attempt to overthrow democracy… we’ll, yeah, they were incited to overturn a lawful election. Let us not forget the Insurrectionist In Chief and his henchmen. Trump, Giuliani, Brooks, Eastman… all just fun loving tourists.

    As usual @NeuM i admire you for singlehandedly holding forth even though I totally disagree with almost everything you contend politically. You are a lone voice here as this forum has a way of shutting down strident right wingers. I only wish the demographics of the real world voices was a reflection of the overwhelming liberal concepts expressed here. Unfortunately, that is not the case.

    Let us not forget the background here in the US. For the first time in its existence the Supreme Court is removing liberty from it’s citizenry. In this case poor minority women who cannot afford a quick trip to New York for an abortion. It is overturning 50 yrs of rulings with justices making arguments like “a woman’s right isn’t being denied here… she can just have the baby and leave it on the doorstep of an orphanage”. Thank you for the compassion and empathy Justice Barrett! You speak for all women, I’m sure.

    So this is what the right wants… like the insurrectionists, just a bit of abortion tourism with some side shopping for baubles at Tiffany’s before returning home to Mississippi and the five kids and three jobs.

    Make America Grunt Again. No one can take away MY prognathic right to leaving guns around so my son murders four at his school. If you say otherwise… why, splutter, you're a bloody anti fascist!

    Well, @Michael, I think I have the record for shutting most political threads down. This may be your cue. I’m only sorry it's in a Creations thread. See what happens @sevenape when you leave the comfort of SOTMC? I totally defend your right to titles as artistic expression. But if I couldn’t post “Fucking Fugue” well, I guess you're in the same boat. You anti fascist, you.

    Beautifully put, Michael.

  • KrupaKrupa

    @ervin said:

    @tahiche said:

    @NeuM said:
    In the US, we are closer to having a Communist-led government than ever before in our history. The current administration is a catastrophe.

    LOL
    Estupendo, mate :)

    What’s amazing is that the Nazi’s made effective use of the Big Lie technique, which is still in use today, but there’s a newer, more contemporary appropriate technique; the Crazy Lie, just keep rolling out a stream of semi nonsense so that anyone who tries to engage with an actual argument is unable to rationally grasp what the source of the nonsense is spouting. In the meantime, bits of that nonsense drop off, and are picked up by passers by and regurgitated later as possible ‘facts’ that they read somewhere, and lots of little lies then propagate around the internet and traditional linear media until most people are so confused and discombobulated they just hold their hands in the air and give up, going on to either not vote, or otherwise participate in meaningful debate, or just randomly choose which side to supper based on ‘feelsz’…

  • KrupaKrupa

    I still think the tune and video that opened this thread are lovely…

    @sevenape said:
    So I’m Covid positive and I did this on my first day off work. It’s a sort of free form wintery and bleak drone song. Over use of piano book but still, I like the sound and it fits the brain fog quite well. It’s made as a background music to a video by a friend of mine. ( not sure if he agrees with me about crypto, but I hope he agrees with me about apartheid).

    Have fun. I’m not. This isn’t his film by the way, it’s some cobbled together stuff I made for my YouTube.

  • ervinervin

    @Krupa said:

    @ervin said:

    @tahiche said:

    @NeuM said:
    In the US, we are closer to having a Communist-led government than ever before in our history. The current administration is a catastrophe.

    LOL
    Estupendo, mate :)

    What’s amazing is that the Nazi’s made effective use of the Big Lie technique, which is still in use today, but there’s a newer, more contemporary appropriate technique; the Crazy Lie, just keep rolling out a stream of semi nonsense so that anyone who tries to engage with an actual argument is unable to rationally grasp what the source of the nonsense is spouting. In the meantime, bits of that nonsense drop off, and are picked up by passers by and regurgitated later as possible ‘facts’ that they read somewhere, and lots of little lies then propagate around the internet and traditional linear media until most people are so confused and discombobulated they just hold their hands in the air and give up, going on to either not vote, or otherwise participate in meaningful debate, or just randomly choose which side to supper based on ‘feelsz’…

    I'm not sure how this ties in with @tahiche 's brilliant comment or my adoration thereof, but you're not wrong. :) In general, it's good to see where the overwhelming majority of this community stands on this issue.

  • KrupaKrupa

    @ervin said:

    @Krupa said:

    @ervin said:

    @tahiche said:

    @NeuM said:
    In the US, we are closer to having a Communist-led government than ever before in our history. The current administration is a catastrophe.

    LOL
    Estupendo, mate :)

    What’s amazing is that the Nazi’s made effective use of the Big Lie technique, which is still in use today, but there’s a newer, more contemporary appropriate technique; the Crazy Lie, just keep rolling out a stream of semi nonsense so that anyone who tries to engage with an actual argument is unable to rationally grasp what the source of the nonsense is spouting. In the meantime, bits of that nonsense drop off, and are picked up by passers by and regurgitated later as possible ‘facts’ that they read somewhere, and lots of little lies then propagate around the internet and traditional linear media until most people are so confused and discombobulated they just hold their hands in the air and give up, going on to either not vote, or otherwise participate in meaningful debate, or just randomly choose which side to supper based on ‘feelsz’…

    I'm not sure how this ties in with @tahiche 's brilliant comment or my adoration thereof, but you're not wrong. :) In general, it's good to see where the overwhelming majority of this community stands on this issue.

    Sorry, it was a bit left field of me, more referring to the original comment that inspired tahiche’s excellent intervention 😁

  • NeuMNeuM

    @espiegel123 said:

    @NeuM said:

    @espiegel123 said:

    @NeuM said:

    @FordTimeLord said:
    Imagine being so far right that you think Biden is a left wing extremist

    Whoever is making the decisions for Biden is a Left extremist. I don’t assume it’s one person.

    Biden is barely on the left let alone an extremist. I think you reveal your own extremism if barely-left-of-center is extreme left to you.

    You still didn't answer: do you think that the Trump administration was not a catastrophe?

    Is Donald Trump still the President?

    Here’s the state of the Democrats right now… Kamala Harris called Joe a racist during the primaries. She never took that back, even after he made her VP. That is a real mess. And judging by current polling numbers, neither Harris nor Biden will be able to be re-elected if either are running for President. And Democrats are going to be destroyed in the mid-terms.

    But to your point, the choice was between Clinton and Trump. I’m glad Clinton was not elected.

    I know the extreme Left would’ve preferred Sanders over Biden, but Sanders never had a chance.

    You still haven't answered the question. Please answer, it will help understand where you are coming from. You keep side-stepping the question. It is a simple question. Each time I have asked it you have changed the subject.

    Do you think that the Trump administration was not a catastrophe?

    Since you think the Trump administration was a catastrophe, what are you comparing it to?

  • NeuMNeuM

    @Krupa said:

    @NeuM said:

    @Krupa said:
    What might be useful information at this point is that from outside the U.S., the common view is that both parties there are further right, both fiscally and socially than those in most other democracies. Thus, compared to here in the U.K. the Democrats hold somewhere around the same position as our right wing mainstream party (the Conservatives). The Republicans are somewhere rightward of that, more so socially than anything else, as to be fair, U.S. fiscal politics are fairly restrained to a heavily deregulated so called ‘free’ market capitalism. Of course, that is caveated by the fact that much of that ‘free’ market is in fact captured by varied interest pools of influence, both from within the U.S. but more and more as their power wanes, from outside… (hence Deutschebank’s deep responsibility in the credit crisis debacle of the late noughties…)

    Frankly, there are few examples of actual “free markets” in the US. All are highly regulated.

    You’re not wrong there, the capture of markets by vested interests with massive government subsidies is so great that people who lean rightward feel as comfortable arguing that real free market capitalism never got the fair hearing it deserved as those who argue that the Soviet union wasn’t a true expression of that ideology…

    (For reference, I’m thinking oil here btw subsidised to around 1/2 trillion dollars per year - https://www.nature.com/articles/d41586-021-02847-2)

    In many respects, the US is more of a corporatist system.

  • LinearLinemanLinearLineman

    @JeffChasteen said:

    @sevenape said:
    Guys guys guys. Delta Omicron is an acronym of MEDIA CONTROL.

    LET THAT SINK IN

    Also, anagram for moronic and a seven letter Scrabble word. Amazing that the Greeks foresaw all this, including Scrabble, 2500 yrs ago. Ah, the insidious consistency of it all!

  • ExAsperis99ExAsperis99

    @LinearLineman said:

    @JeffChasteen said:

    @sevenape said:
    Guys guys guys. Delta Omicron is an acronym of MEDIA CONTROL.

    LET THAT SINK IN

    Also, anagram for moronic and a seven letter Scrabble word. Amazing that the Greeks foresaw all this, including Scrabble, 2500 yrs ago. Ah, the insidious consistency of it all!

    Hat tip for that. Wowee.
    My day was slightly ruined by learning that tonight's performance of "David Byrne's American Utopia" has been canceled (for the third night in a row) due to an illness in he cast. (Supposedly it's not Covid.) But this has brightened my mood.

  • sevenapesevenape

    @LinearLineman said:

    @JeffChasteen said:

    @sevenape said:
    Guys guys guys. Delta Omicron is an acronym of MEDIA CONTROL.

    LET THAT SINK IN

    Also, anagram for moronic and a seven letter Scrabble word. Amazing that the Greeks foresaw all this, including Scrabble, 2500 yrs ago. Ah, the insidious consistency of it all!

    Hahaha beat me with that one

  • sevenapesevenape

    @Krupa said:
    I still think the tune and video that opened this thread are lovely…

    @sevenape said:
    So I’m Covid positive and I did this on my first day off work. It’s a sort of free form wintery and bleak drone song. Over use of piano book but still, I like the sound and it fits the brain fog quite well. It’s made as a background music to a video by a friend of mine. ( not sure if he agrees with me about crypto, but I hope he agrees with me about apartheid).

    Have fun. I’m not. This isn’t his film by the way, it’s some cobbled together stuff I made for my YouTube.

    Thank you so so so much xx

  • tahichetahiche

    @Michael said:
    I want to leave it open so I can read more of @LinearLineman's writing :D

    Indeed!. A joy to read.

    The following opinion is totally personal, subjective and maybe a load of crap. We’re all biased, aren’t we?.
    @LinearLineman praised @NeuM for defending his position against a majority, and I have to agree. It takes some courage and I’m glad we’re having this conversation, hoping we keep it civil. But I’m also extremely glad and relieved that his position is not common in this crowd/forum.
    I think we can all agree that there’s a much smaller percentage of right-wing supporters amongst musicians and artists in general. Coincidence?. My bullshit theory is that it’s tied to sensitivity and expression. An artist wants to share, even if doing music on an iPad by him/herself. Music is social, that’s the opposite of the individualism that’s venerated by the right.
    Enjoying reading you all. I think it’s great that @sevenape’s produced a song that ended up in this discussion. 🙌

  • SimonSimon
    edited December 2021

    @BiancaNeve said:
    More fully he describes is as a “genuinely revolutionary, trans-class form of anti-liberal, and in the last analysis, anti-conservative nationalism. As such it is an ideology deeply bound up with modernization and modernity, one which has assumed a considerable variety of external forms to adapt itself to the particular historical and national context in which it appears, and has drawn a wide range of cultural and intellectual currents, both left and right, anti-modern and pro-modern, to articulate itself as a body of ideas, slogans, and doctrine. In the inter-war period it manifested itself primarily in the form of an elite-led "armed party" which attempted, mostly unsuccessfully, to generate a populist mass movement through a liturgical style of politics and a programme of radical policies which promised to overcome a threat posed by international socialism, to end the degeneration affecting the nation under liberalism, and to bring about a radical renewal of its social, political and cultural life as part of what was widely imagined to be the new era being inaugurated in Western civilization. The core mobilizing myth of fascism which conditions its ideology, propaganda, style of politics and actions is the vision of the nation's imminent rebirth from decadence.”

    For those who have no idea what palingenetic means

    Nope. I need another clue please.

    Is it animal, mineral or vegetable?

    Larger than a breadbox?

    (thnks)

    Is the answer...the Boy Scouts?? The Grand Canyon? Lassie? The Mormon Tabernacle Choir?

    (buzzer noise indicates wrong answer)

    Honestly, definitions like the above are so loose as to be almost meaningless. Roger needs to go to a creative writing class and learn how to communicate more succinctly. Then he can be a winner in The Glorious Revolution :smiley:

  • SimonSimon
    edited December 2021

    @dvi said:
    I’m just finishing this book called Militarized Global Apartheid written by an anthropologist that demonstrates how the whole world operates as an apartheid system that divides the global north and the global south along racial lines for exploitation. It’s the most convincing account I’ve read about global inequality and what used to be called “underdevelopment.”

    Here’s the blurb:
    In Militarized Global Apartheid Catherine Besteman offers a sweeping theorization of the ways in which countries from the global north are reproducing South Africa's apartheid system on a worldwide scale to control the mobility and labor of people from the global south. Exploring the different manifestations of global apartheid, Besteman traces how militarization and securitization reconfigure older forms of white supremacy and deploy them in new contexts to maintain this racialized global order. Whether using the language of security, military intervention, surveillance technologies, or detention centers and other forms of incarceration, these projects reinforce and consolidate the global north's political and economic interests at the expense of the poor, migrants, refugees, Indigenous populations, and people of color. By drawing out how this new form of apartheid functions and pointing to areas of resistance, Besteman opens up new space to theorize potential sources of liberatory politics

    So, she's saying that countries with power (who are mainly white) are trying to hold on to it and not give it to others (who are mainly black)...?

    Not exactly breaking news.

    Every country works in it's own best interest - isn't that what citizens of each country would expect their governments to be doing?

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