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Sounds like a mystery worth pursuing. You must have an inventors/ engineers' mindset.
I see your point...if god doesn't exist, I probably don't need a drum app.
Beyond the T&C though there are laws to protect purchases. I believe that if anyone has bought items close to withdrawal they would have a decent case for a refund. Where that period of time extends to would be debateable, but there are some precedence cases for this. For most of us, I'm sure we would not really want a refund that would require any loss of earning to the developer (if indeed any units were sold close to withdrawal).
Personally I have no qualms with the developer, I do however see the lack of warning of withdrawal from our download lists as at least wrong in a moral sense.
I for one, would much rather we see a period of time required for a warning to be given before withdrawal from our downloads happens. If this was the case, I would have no further argument. I believe that developers are not paid until sale periods have passed a certain amount of time. This is to protect Apple against paying prior to refund times have elapsed and being unable to get monies back paid out to developers. I believe this same period should extend to ability to download from a time when an email to the purchaser is sent.
True, but in most cases where a developer left i got a message with a deadline to download my "licences".
An/or i also can resell my licences in most cases. But not within the app store. It is a bit of golden cage.
Also i find if Apple provide the store, take a big piece of the cake and make the rules, they have to do a lot with it and HAVE to inform me in some way and give me some time to back up stuff.
Of course every person see it a bit different but as a customer developers will lost me (if they care or not) on iOS.
Even when there are only 64 bit apps soon, i don´t know how this could be better. It´s getting worse more and more.
I can just talk foe myself but i bought 1-2 apps per week, then 1-2 a month and now maybe 1 app every 2-3 months.
If there is an app that's vital to your setup you can:
These may not be convent or practical solutions for you.
I agree with those who see iOS as a more ephemeral market driven environment which is not at all similar to static hardware. Given the marginal economics for iOS music creation app development, I try to get whatever value from using my apps while I can and recognize that they may no longer be working or actively supported in my current setup in the future for any number of reasons. iOS has allowed me to explore many aspects of music making I would otherwise not have been able to. I don't have to have space dedicated to using or storing my iOS devices.
Comparing iOS with hardware seems like a case of apples and oranges. An Apple will never be an orange or vice versa. It's definitely worthwhile to figure out your preferences or what mix of the two works for you but expecting iOS and hardware to be the same seems unrealistic.
Agreed that as a comparison with hardware, many arguments fail. However, as a comparison with other software markets, I believe certain areas are fair for certain comparisons. Take a look at what happened when my investment with the original Alchemy was withdrawn. They gave plenty of warning for me to download and backup my purchases. This seems not to be the case when iOS apps are being withdrawn. This is what I object to.
Me th same. Maybe it was a error updating and we lost our messages in between?
Yes that's the idea but then if you restore your phone and try to re-install only few apps... bang one you have purchased has gne forever. You will need to grab a backup with iTunes before it... if you don't have a regular computer (like me) good luck! XD
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Not anymore. The update nag will make your device unusable in a live situation, and there are still usability bugs that need fixing.
They have you on the treadmill, and you can't escape.
The update nag never shows up if an app is in the foreground.Only if you switch back to the home screen.It also don't interrupt the audio stream.And You can also prevent this if you just delete the update before your show and put your device in airplane mode (that's recommended for a serious performance anyway).Even if not (in airplane mode),it will take some time until it is installed again.i'm NOT defending it by any means but we should avoid hyperbole like"unusable"
It has popped up when apps have been in the foreground. In fact it once appeared when I was recording guitar into Auria, and another time during a live AUM jam. I remember one particular two hour session where it appeared at least five times.
That's unusable, doubly so if I have to go offline to use the thing.
Yeah, there seems no rhyme or reason to it. I agree that it is far from hyperbole for some who have suffered with it. It really is a problem for some and that alone makes it a problem for the live player and even studio use to some degree. Some don't suffer it as much. Why? Who knows.
Besides, how does Link work if we have to go offline?
That's a good point, can Link work over BluetoothLE?
Ok,sorry for you.I count myself lucky then.My point stands though.You can avoid it if you delete the update before a show and set"airplane mode on" (which is not even necessary unless you use the WI-FI of the club).Therefore it doesn't make an idevice"useless"in a live situation.Super annoying at home?Yes.Indeed.
edit:that's a good point about link.Not necessary to have internet connection for it rhough.And,again...it takes time until the update is on your device again.Should not be a problem unless you have 24 hour live sets (upwards)
You could connect via a router that isn't connected to the internet.
Link does not work with BTLE but it does work with a wired ethernet connection.
Cool, so an unconnected router is the route then. Still if there was a little more common sense to Apples update procedures, this problem would not exist anyway
Hard wired cat5e through a 5 port switch, into Ethernet dongles into usb 3 dongles?
amen
Yes. Not pretty but it does work.
I was more thinking of either just disconnecting your normal router from the phone socket, or having a spare router especially since I have no idea what a cat5e is/does.
I'm lucky if I get 5 minutes in, before the audience start getting frisky and the bottles start flying...
I noticed it seemed to get worse, the longer I left it.
What makes sense for Apple versus what makes sense for us are not always the same thing. A major strategy for Apple is to try and have as many people on the latest iOS and the latest devices so they structure how iOS updates work accordingly.
If you want to stay on a particular version of iOS due to a particular app/hardware setup that is stable for you, it will definitely be less convenient and at times inconvenient relative to people who automatically update regularly which is Apple's target market.
Until enough people decide to move onto other platforms, I don't think Apple will significantly alter their business practices with respect to updates. If anything, if the sale of iOS devices/apps slows down too much, Apple will look to focus their commitment in other technology that favors high hardware turnover/sales. As a high end (what this consists of can be very subjective), proprietary based company, they try to avoid competing in a commodity based marketplace since all of their advantages dissipate in such an environment.
So I'm putting my iTunes account up for sale. I have all the music-making tools and toys (iap included!) you'd ever need, and more. How much would you pay for that if you were just starting out?
Can you give a brief explanation how you do that with both apps. Thanks!!
You can't - read the terms and conditions - it is non transferrable.
The movie is worth a look- strange and strangely beautiful, a funhouse mirror variation on Citizen Kane
The way iOS/App Store works has never been a big secret. The same types of annoyances, unpredictabilities, and instabilities since the beginning, and Apple makes the rules. I’ve pulled my hair out due to it a few times, but with the realization that it is what it is, and at the prices of music apps, it’s worth the adjustments and the hassle.
I wonder why some musicians ever invested in it, always expecting it to be something its not, surprised every time Apple does or doesn’t do something consistent with an idea that the music-making market is a primary concern and focus. I guess it’s just that, despite Apple’s lack of focus, iOS still attracts dedicated and talented developers and has remained the best option for making music on a mobile platform. Have to enjoy it while it lasts.
Freedom of choice is a great thing. Being able to question why and how. Looking at the 'what ifs' of life. Changing perspective. Sharing ideas. Looking at new ways of thinking and working.
Yes, Apple will do what Apple decide is best for their business at the time. Sometimes they make mistakes. Some short term mistakes, some long term mistakes. Often they get it right judging by the way they are making money. But, I firmly believe that companies should have their policies questioned. We question our societies politics on a regular basis. We question our own beliefs. It's about balence - say yes, we like that....and say no, we don't like that.
Personally I find more and more over time that makes me want to change musical direction with concerns to the tools I use for music making. I hope often, that some of the (from my perspective as a user of iOS as a tool) directions Apple take will change somewhat.
I personally will never just say to myself, 'that's the way things are, I just better accept them'. I see no point to accepting something because that is just what is on offer at the time. I can still use the tool to best of my ability, but I have the freedom to say that I think things could be done differently.
I've given iOS a fair try. I have been an active supporter of developers and the community surrounding it. I have given my time to assist both at times. After much use and consideration, I can see that iOS does not and probably will not become all that I think it could be from a music making perspective. So, I will still use it, but will look at other additions to my hobby that better fulfill the ideas and direction I personally desire