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Was thinking after reading your reply Matt...there's no rules saying that dnb has to go mayhem, even the jazzy, atmo dnb don't go chaotic, but I feel it can go mellower, more minimal so that it's not even danceble..in other words, beyond intelligent dnb, how about "intellectual dnb" designed to just sit back and listen to and chill to?
Could be an interesting direction..
Just saw this. Thanks for the generous comments. No great explanation for meaning but feeling of getting a raw deal. My voice is hit or miss but would give it a go. I can certainly give it out of tune character.
Thanks - I hear you.
I'm quite interested in mixing more minimal "Electronica" with "DnB" to be honest. I love all those rich, distorted, minimal textures, bent circuit sounds, delicate synth-percussion type things going on in a lot of more experimental Electronica, but I also love the fast drum patterns and groovy, dark/speaker shaking basslines from drum and bass... So i'm thinking about how I can effectively combine those two genres I guess.
I think i'm probably 'better' at making drum and bass tracks too TBH - whenever I try something slower I don't get quite the same level of positive feedback (although I know that's not the "be all"). I tend to get "it lacked groove" or something similar.
So yes - I hear you on this...
Quick, random, OT, question... triggered by @richardyot post on what he did/didn't do in Auria.
So for example, a lot of my patches in Gadget while i'm composing might have reverb on them already (particularly, say, Helsinki or Brussels that have reverb 'on board', but also other tracks where's i'm using Gadget's generally un-liked 'send' reverb on the channel strip) - as I want to compose with a good feel for the reverb as I go.
But if I want to add some super (better quality) convolution reverb later in the mix in Auria - is it advisable to go through and dutifully turn all the reverb off on every Gadget track least they "clash" or can I just slap the Auria convolution reverb over the Gadget reverb and it all gets merged and it's all good?
What do people reckon?
Mixing books I've read say it's OK, for example a typical vocal track might have several reverbs applied. As ever I would say if it sounds good then it is good.
I know what you mean Matt..I like that vibe too..
The first albums from Photek and Adam F were full of stuff like that. Kind of minimal scifi tekstep..
I tried with this one, not sure I succeeded tho
And this one but it's not so minimal
For me, it takes too long to create serious "drum funk " patterns on iOS, I'm getting frustrated..hence me focusing on 4/4 stuff right now
Reverb widens things and gives added "space" according to my ears and of course there's different types. Too much will add too much hollow sound in comparison to the other ingredients in the mix..
The reverb on gadget is good but I'm not sure wether reverb on top of reverb would work for anything other than ambient
It's not a bad thing to put reverb on another reverb, it can give a richer sound or make 2 not so good (sounding) reverbs into a better one.. But.. Go easy as you can easily add too much, which will push your sound further back in the mix or even worse you end up with a washed out blur.
Thanks for your comments @Matt_Fletcher_2000 - really appreciate that coming from you - as I've always felt you and I were very much in sync as far as our thoughts/opinions/workflows when it comes to ios (and Gadget in particular). Even your recent post on this thread about programming drums is where I'm at too - used to find it a chore and didn't really take time to program drums, but now it's one of my favourite aspects of producing.
Anyways, I digress... Not much to say as far as what I used to produce. All Gadget (no iM1 or Module) It was a few drum samples from Beathawk (trip hop kits) for the main beat off the top, then the hihats that come in were a London with some automation on the attack and some delay. Marseille for piano, bass was a Phoenix with a Dublin doublin' it up. Some pads done with a Wolfsburg. There's a Chicago in there, and another Phoenix melody... and you were right about the Brussels that comes in at the breakdown. That's mostly it.
Wicked. Thanks @halftone. Great track as I say.
Attack on in London? I didn't think that was a parameter you could change???
Be interested to hear what you think of my track if/when you get the chance to listen.
you're right! - it was the Time knob automated to adjust length of the hats.
Of course I will comment on yours and others! Just need to find time to give a proper listen. Soon.
Something I'm working on as I continue to find new things in gadget. On its way to being finished and purely for the pleasure of doing it.
@mrufino liked all of that: good bass line, good synth lead, good structure, good beat. Nothing more to say - it's a great track!
Thanks, that's very nice to hear from you because you always have very good constructive comments. I guess it's on some sort of right track. This kind of music is so opposite my personality or what I usually play as a bassist, that's what makes it fun.
I like this second track a lot, very cool feel to it.
Cool track! I wouldn't even begin to think of making something like this, hard to believe I have all of the same synths but use them so differently. The track really sounds great and good to hear @johnnygoodyear speaking!
Thanks! Glad you liked it.
That last sentence says it all. Distortion on guitar was once something to be avoided too!
When using reverb, think about why you're using it, that helps. Sometimes you use a short reverb just to add some body, sometimes it's a little longer for a bit of space and to push the sound back, sometimes you add tons of long reverb to make the sound a "back wall" in your track. Also, eq does wonders with depth- less high end pushes a sound back, so excessive reverb on a bright sound doesn't sound natural- but may also sound "right."
For @Matt_Fletcher_2000 as well, since it was your question originally.
The tracks both of you posted sound really good though, so I think you have more understanding of it than you think!
It's getting there - I read a few books just to get my head around what all the settings do, but really trying to mix a song every month has been super beneficial as I am slowly developing my listening skills.
I've also found a pair of headphones I can trust (Focal Spirit Pros) and now when I listen to my mixes on speakers they sound exactly how I expect them to. When I was mixing with my Senn 650's I always got a nasty surprise when I heard the mix on speakers because the bass was thin and the highs were hyped, presumably because the Senns were fattening out the bass and thinning the highs and not giving me a true picture of the mix.
@mrufino really good track there mate.ive been humming the main hook all afternoon....da..daaa....daaaaaaaaa....ba,ba,ba,baaa,baaaa!
Hey guys,working on feedback I have received on and off the forum I have made a few mixing tweaks to my track for this month.Nothing major,mainly compressing and lowering the vocal volume so that it sits better in the mix:)
@mrufino1 great groove. Love the track especially 3:35 mark bringing it all back in. Really great!
@LostBoy85 still a killer track. Your voice is amazing and don't mind it more prominent in the mix at all. This tune has it all for me but you already know that. Radio worthy!
Really like Tantra, its got real attitude....
This is about as drum n bass as ive got so far...pretty basic live jam with a few loops, a few Sunrizers and Korg M1
Thanks mate
That's good fluid vibes you made there! More please
@DaveMagoo is that an official entry into the thread? I only ask because Soundcloud says it was posted a month ago.
Anyway, pretty cool track, I like the bass line a lot, it drives the song forward and is very musical.
No its not official, i was compelled to post it by hearing 'Tantra' which is pretty meaty and full of attitude...and thanks.
Hey Everyone! Little late to the party here this month but I plan on submitting and commenting as usual. I know @richardyot has the entries pinned to the first page, but here is a playlist of the Soundcloud tracks. Sorry to the Youtubers!
https://m.soundcloud.com/bvsmv/sets/sotmc
Thanks @BvsMV very good of you to do that:)
No problem! I was thinking that would be good for me since I'm so late to the game this month, and I thought that might be nice for everyone!