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GarageBand 2.3! New drummers, 24-bit, more

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  • supadomsupadom
    edited November 2017

    @Trueyorky said:
    Like many others here I have downloaded and deleted GB several times over the years but this is quite something and could finally be a keeper :)

    Same here. To me the rapidity, ease of use and decent demo standard sounding final mix is on top of the list. It is an incredibly well balanced and powerful package. Of course it cannot compete with fabfilters but it isnt even trying as it trumps Auria with other aspects.

    Yes, you can achieve very good results with Auria but any recording professional will steer towards industry standards like ProTools etc.

    Of course it will depend on what kind of music you make and how much of a tweaked you are. I’m beyond the point of tuning the hihats and most of drum machines provide enough sounds to make me happy. In GB I just make a beat, might change individual volumes etc but that’s it. If a beat grooves it grooves independently of how much time you spend on a detail, especially because it seems to me GB team already spent a lot of time to make this thing sound decent.

  • JohnnyGoodyearJohnnyGoodyear

    @supadom said:

    @Trueyorky said:
    Like many others here I have downloaded and deleted GB several times over the years but this is quite something and could finally be a keeper :)

    Same here. To me the rapidity, ease of use and decent demo standard sounding final mix is on top of the list. It is an incredibly well balanced and powerful package. Of course it cannot compete with fabfilters but it isnt even trying as it trumps Auria with other aspects.

    Yes, you can achieve very good results with Auria but any recording professional will steer towards industry standards like ProTools etc.

    Of course it will depend on what kind of music you make and how much of a tweaked you are. I’m beyond the point of tuning the hihats and most of drum machines provide enough sounds to make me happy. In GB I just make a beat, might change individual volumes etc but that’s it. If a beat grooves it grooves independently of how much time you spend on a detail, especially because it seems to me GB team already spent a lot of time to make this thing sound decent.

    Agree with pretty much all of this. It feels as though it's just quietly crossed a line...am going to write my SOTMC for November in GB as en experiment. Can't imagine I won't export it stem-by-stem to Auria for some clumsy polishing, but we'll see.

  • JonLewisJonLewis

    I can confirm that for me, on my iPad Mini 3, the latest version of GB has removed the Alchemy presets. They aren't in the synth submenu - I'm back to just the very minimally customizable choices that existed before GB added Alchemy.

    The new Taiko drum + Koto instruments are amazing and I haven't even messed with the new drum sequencer yet; the Alchemy presets are not a world shaking loss with all the AUs I can deploy in here. But it's an annoyance.

  • mrufino1mrufino1

    @JohnnyGoodyear said:

    Agree with pretty much all of this. It feels as though it's just quietly crossed a line...am going to write my SOTMC for November in GB as en experiment. Can't imagine I won't export it stem-by-stem to Auria for some clumsy polishing, but we'll see.

    >

    I noticed that you can now mute almost individual drum pieces in the drummer, meaning kick, snare , Toms as a group, cymbals as a group, that would come in handy for stem export (and therefore some drum-a-gogging in auria if you so chose).

  • JohnnyGoodyearJohnnyGoodyear
    edited November 2017

    @mrufino1 said:

    @JohnnyGoodyear said:

    Agree with pretty much all of this. It feels as though it's just quietly crossed a line...am going to write my SOTMC for November in GB as en experiment. Can't imagine I won't export it stem-by-stem to Auria for some clumsy polishing, but we'll see.

    >

    I noticed that you can now mute almost individual drum pieces in the drummer, meaning kick, snare , Toms as a group, cymbals as a group, that would come in handy for stem export (and therefore some drum-a-gogging in auria if you so chose).

    Thanks Mister. Good nudge. Will so credit you in the liner notes. The general loss of which is actually a sore point in this lifetime. When other kids answered the 'what do you want to be when you grow up' question with milkman or capitalist running dog I always said liner note specialist. Born too late etc.

  • mrufino1mrufino1

    @JohnnyGoodyear said:

    @mrufino1 said:

    @JohnnyGoodyear said:

    Agree with pretty much all of this. It feels as though it's just quietly crossed a line...am going to write my SOTMC for November in GB as en experiment. Can't imagine I won't export it stem-by-stem to Auria for some clumsy polishing, but we'll see.

    >

    I noticed that you can now mute almost individual drum pieces in the drummer, meaning kick, snare , Toms as a group, cymbals as a group, that would come in handy for stem export (and therefore some drum-a-gogging in auria if you so chose).

    Thanks Mister. Good nudge. Will so credit you in the liner notes. The general loss of which is actually a sore point in this lifetime. When other kids answered the 'what do you want to be when you grow up' question with milkman or capitalist running dog I always said liner note specialist. Born too late etc.

    Not so fast, there’s a new standard that is trying to be introduced by various organizations that uses a plugin where metadata will be inputted before exporting audio files and they are trying to make it required so credits are available on downloaded files.

    http://rsrockstars.com/RIN/

    Check out the podcast that the site is from as well, he does great interviews.

  • JohnnyGoodyearJohnnyGoodyear
    edited November 2017

    @mrufino1 said:

    @JohnnyGoodyear said:

    @mrufino1 said:

    @JohnnyGoodyear said:

    Agree with pretty much all of this. It feels as though it's just quietly crossed a line...am going to write my SOTMC for November in GB as en experiment. Can't imagine I won't export it stem-by-stem to Auria for some clumsy polishing, but we'll see.

    >

    I noticed that you can now mute almost individual drum pieces in the drummer, meaning kick, snare , Toms as a group, cymbals as a group, that would come in handy for stem export (and therefore some drum-a-gogging in auria if you so chose).

    Thanks Mister. Good nudge. Will so credit you in the liner notes. The general loss of which is actually a sore point in this lifetime. When other kids answered the 'what do you want to be when you grow up' question with milkman or capitalist running dog I always said liner note specialist. Born too late etc.

    Not so fast, there’s a new standard that is trying to be introduced by various organizations that uses a plugin where metadata will be inputted before exporting audio files and they are trying to make it required so credits are available on downloaded files.

    http://rsrockstars.com/RIN/

    Check out the podcast that the site is from as well, he does great interviews.

    Nice. Will do. My purpose is reborn perhaps :) I did actually spend a year or so sitting in West Village bars writing liner notes to imaginary albums and thought I could somehow tie them all together in a kind of Italo Calvino post-something slim novel, but then I sobered up...

  • lukesleepwalkerlukesleepwalker

    @JohnnyGoodyear said:

    @supadom said:

    @Trueyorky said:
    Like many others here I have downloaded and deleted GB several times over the years but this is quite something and could finally be a keeper :)

    Same here. To me the rapidity, ease of use and decent demo standard sounding final mix is on top of the list. It is an incredibly well balanced and powerful package. Of course it cannot compete with fabfilters but it isnt even trying as it trumps Auria with other aspects.

    Yes, you can achieve very good results with Auria but any recording professional will steer towards industry standards like ProTools etc.

    Of course it will depend on what kind of music you make and how much of a tweaked you are. I’m beyond the point of tuning the hihats and most of drum machines provide enough sounds to make me happy. In GB I just make a beat, might change individual volumes etc but that’s it. If a beat grooves it grooves independently of how much time you spend on a detail, especially because it seems to me GB team already spent a lot of time to make this thing sound decent.

    Agree with pretty much all of this. It feels as though it's just quietly crossed a line...am going to write my SOTMC for November in GB as en experiment. Can't imagine I won't export it stem-by-stem to Auria for some clumsy polishing, but we'll see.

    I was thinking of a similar experiment but I have a BM3 experiment that I swore would come first (and in fact I'm learning my way around BM3 better with my SOTMC work). GB experiment for December, I guess; looking forward to it after this update. Good stuff.

  • JohnnyGoodyearJohnnyGoodyear
    edited November 2017

    @lukesleepwalker said:

    @JohnnyGoodyear said:

    @supadom said:

    @Trueyorky said:
    Like many others here I have downloaded and deleted GB several times over the years but this is quite something and could finally be a keeper :)

    Same here. To me the rapidity, ease of use and decent demo standard sounding final mix is on top of the list. It is an incredibly well balanced and powerful package. Of course it cannot compete with fabfilters but it isnt even trying as it trumps Auria with other aspects.

    Yes, you can achieve very good results with Auria but any recording professional will steer towards industry standards like ProTools etc.

    Of course it will depend on what kind of music you make and how much of a tweaked you are. I’m beyond the point of tuning the hihats and most of drum machines provide enough sounds to make me happy. In GB I just make a beat, might change individual volumes etc but that’s it. If a beat grooves it grooves independently of how much time you spend on a detail, especially because it seems to me GB team already spent a lot of time to make this thing sound decent.

    Agree with pretty much all of this. It feels as though it's just quietly crossed a line...am going to write my SOTMC for November in GB as en experiment. Can't imagine I won't export it stem-by-stem to Auria for some clumsy polishing, but we'll see.

    I was thinking of a similar experiment but I have a BM3 experiment that I swore would come first (and in fact I'm learning my way around BM3 better with my SOTMC work). GB experiment for December, I guess; looking forward to it after this update. Good stuff.

    No question that SOTMC focuses what little is left of the mind etc and then on the other side you know things better than you did (or would have).

  • SouperSouper

    @JohnnyGoodyear said:
    Nice. Will do. My purpose is reborn perhaps :) I did actually spend a year or so sitting in West Village bars writing liner notes to imaginary albums and thought I could somehow tie them all together in a kind of Italo Calvino post-something slim novel, but then I sobered up...

    I'd love to hear an imaginary album title. "But then I sobered up" could be one; or it could be an answer song to "Will you love me tomorrow?"

  • realdavidairealdavidai

    Really wish I could use EOS 2 as a send effect. Hopefully AU on the “master effects” section comes soon

  • mistercharliemistercharlie

    @realdavidai said:
    Hopefully AU on the “master effects” section comes soon

    +1

  • GreenieGreenie

    Just in case you haven’t updated to 11,1 and the GarageBand update 2.3 Send all your tracks etc. to icloud , cuz(DAH)I didn’t have enough storage ,lost all the track layouts and the update turned them all to wav or frozen files,so I have the mixes in what was their state at the time,via (file transfer)which appears on the update ,attempted open them ,no luck ,so I loaded them on to AudioShare and hope they where in fairly good shape, mix wise and I can salvage some bits and pieces, - - -yea I know( Dickhead ) but I felt I had to tell the AudioBus therapy forum as only you might understand my disappointment.- - the Update in GarageBand is especially good . 11.1 I’ll have to see lots of shit I don’t need or want. Just a heads up ,unlike mine

  • telebteleb

    @Greenie said:
    Just in case you haven’t updated to 11,1 and the GarageBand update 2.3 Send all your tracks etc. to icloud , cuz(DAH)I didn’t have enough storage ,lost all the track layouts and the update turned them all to wav or frozen files,so I have the mixes in what was their state at the time,via (file transfer)which appears on the update ,attempted open them ,no luck ,so I loaded them on to AudioShare and hope they where in fairly good shape, mix wise and I can salvage some bits and pieces, - - -yea I know( Dickhead ) but I felt I had to tell the AudioBus therapy forum as only you might understand my disappointment.- - the Update in GarageBand is especially good . 11.1 I’ll have to see lots of shit I don’t need or want. Just a heads up ,unlike mine

    Good hint. For those with multiple devices, you could AirDrop the projects from your iPad to your iPhone. This is, if you don't have enough space in iCloud. Or by a storage plan for iCloud, just for 1 month to perform the transition, then after that is done, you can cancel the storage plan.

  • jn2002dkjn2002dk
    edited November 2017

    I'm also one of the uninstall and reinstall GB people but lately i find myself using it more and more. The fact that i can export projects to Logic only makes it more attractive. It really has come a long way

  • RajahPRajahP
    edited November 2017

    Share> @jn2002dk said:

    I'm also one of the uninstall and resintall GB people but lately i find myself using it more and more. The fact that i can export projects to Logic only makes it more attractive. It really has come a long way.

    For those of us who are PC users, can Logic open the GB project ‘intact’ (midi and audio files)?

    If so, someone can make a load of money transferring these GB projects to other DAW formats besides Logic...

  • SamuSamu

    @RajahP said:

    For those of us who are PC users, can Logic open the GB project ‘intact’ (midi and audio files)?

    The midi is kept intact and all the instruments are mapped to use the same patches in Logic Pro X.

    If so, someone can make a load of money transferring these GB projects to other DAW formats besides Logic...

    Maybe but that would take a lot of work since GarageBand uses the same patches and instruments built-in into Logic Pro X so in order to successfully transfer all the sounds there would be a need to create sampled instruments for all the Logic instruments and convert them to work with a sample-player in the destination DAW...

  • jn2002dkjn2002dk

    @RajahP said:
    Share> @jn2002dk said:

    I'm also one of the uninstall and resintall GB people but lately i find myself using it more and more. The fact that i can export projects to Logic only makes it more attractive. It really has come a long way.

    For those of us who are PC users, can Logic open the GB project ‘intact’ (midi and audio files)?

    If so, someone can make a load of money transferring these GB projects to other DAW formats besides Logic...

    I don't think i've ever tried exporting an audio track from GB ios to Logic but midi is intact. I don't see why audio wouldn't be. Though in my experience Logic does something to midi which requires further work to export if you want to use it in another DAW

  • [Deleted User][Deleted User]

    Woah, I'd missed this. Just watched Doug's vid, I think this might be a big push to update to iOS 11 for me...though that's probably going to come anyway when the Brambos sequencer hits the shelves.

    @theconnactic said:
    No, @JohnnyGoodyear. Audio editing is still in the kindergarten in GB: I can see myself using it a lot more for creating a song (just made one) but all the heavy lifting will still need to be done in Auria.

    That's the one reason I stopped using GB, and bought Auria - no volume automation (unless they have added it) is essential in a DAW.

    I'm very tempted to update to iOS 11x now, and reinstall GB. Love the sound of the new instruments, just a bugger it doesn't have AB or IAA out support.

  • TrueyorkyTrueyorky

    @MonzoPro said:
    Woah, I'd missed this. Just watched Doug's vid, I think this might be a big push to update to iOS 11 for me...though that's probably going to come anyway when the Brambos sequencer hits the shelves.

    @theconnactic said:
    No, @JohnnyGoodyear. Audio editing is still in the kindergarten in GB: I can see myself using it a lot more for creating a song (just made one) but all the heavy lifting will still need to be done in Auria.

    That's the one reason I stopped using GB, and bought Auria - no volume automation (unless they have added it) is essential in a DAW.

    I'm very tempted to update to iOS 11x now, and reinstall GB. Love the sound of the new instruments, just a bugger it doesn't have AB or IAA out support.

    Lots of delights in this version and YES per track volume automation editing which I stumbled upon yesterday :)

  • [Deleted User][Deleted User]

    @Trueyorky said:

    @MonzoPro said:
    Woah, I'd missed this. Just watched Doug's vid, I think this might be a big push to update to iOS 11 for me...though that's probably going to come anyway when the Brambos sequencer hits the shelves.

    @theconnactic said:
    No, @JohnnyGoodyear. Audio editing is still in the kindergarten in GB: I can see myself using it a lot more for creating a song (just made one) but all the heavy lifting will still need to be done in Auria.

    That's the one reason I stopped using GB, and bought Auria - no volume automation (unless they have added it) is essential in a DAW.

    I'm very tempted to update to iOS 11x now, and reinstall GB. Love the sound of the new instruments, just a bugger it doesn't have AB or IAA out support.

    Lots of delights in this version and YES per track volume automation editing which I stumbled upon yesterday :)

    Oh blimey, right I'll have to update for this then.

  • mistercharliemistercharlie

    @MonzoPro said:

    @Trueyorky said:

    @MonzoPro said:
    Woah, I'd missed this. Just watched Doug's vid, I think this might be a big push to update to iOS 11 for me...though that's probably going to come anyway when the Brambos sequencer hits the shelves.

    @theconnactic said:
    No, @JohnnyGoodyear. Audio editing is still in the kindergarten in GB: I can see myself using it a lot more for creating a song (just made one) but all the heavy lifting will still need to be done in Auria.

    That's the one reason I stopped using GB, and bought Auria - no volume automation (unless they have added it) is essential in a DAW.

    I'm very tempted to update to iOS 11x now, and reinstall GB. Love the sound of the new instruments, just a bugger it doesn't have AB or IAA out support.

    Lots of delights in this version and YES per track volume automation editing which I stumbled upon yesterday :)

    Oh blimey, right I'll have to update for this then.

    Volume automation has been in there for a while. It works great.

  • Nu2moroNu2moro
    edited November 2017

    The beat machine tightly integrated into the setup is massively useful and a feature I have only just recently found out about! I would love to see that feature embedded into Cubasis for iPhone! Lol 8-)
    Garage band on the phone is a revelation! Nice work Apple :-)

  • RajahPRajahP
    edited November 2017

    @Samu said:

    @RajahP said:

    For those of us who are PC users, can Logic open the GB project ‘intact’ (midi and audio files)?

    The midi is kept intact and all the instruments are mapped to use the same patches in Logic Pro X.

    If so, someone can make a load of money transferring these GB projects to other DAW formats besides Logic...

    Maybe but that would take a lot of work since GarageBand uses the same patches and instruments built-in into Logic Pro X so in order to successfully transfer all the sounds there would be a need to create sampled instruments for all the Logic instruments and convert them to work with a sample-player in the destination DAW...

    I think the marketing strategy is for users to buy a Mac/Logic (who don’t already own one).. it’s why it is so ‘locked’.. Love the beat sequencer much... and the iDAM stuff would be nice... But I have no plans on getting a Mac.. Besides, I think we have some clever iOS developers here who would make use of the GB’s beat sequencer features pretty soon.. just a matter of time..

  • [Deleted User][Deleted User]

    @mistercharlie said:

    @MonzoPro said:

    @Trueyorky said:

    @MonzoPro said:
    Woah, I'd missed this. Just watched Doug's vid, I think this might be a big push to update to iOS 11 for me...though that's probably going to come anyway when the Brambos sequencer hits the shelves.

    @theconnactic said:
    No, @JohnnyGoodyear. Audio editing is still in the kindergarten in GB: I can see myself using it a lot more for creating a song (just made one) but all the heavy lifting will still need to be done in Auria.

    That's the one reason I stopped using GB, and bought Auria - no volume automation (unless they have added it) is essential in a DAW.

    I'm very tempted to update to iOS 11x now, and reinstall GB. Love the sound of the new instruments, just a bugger it doesn't have AB or IAA out support.

    Lots of delights in this version and YES per track volume automation editing which I stumbled upon yesterday :)

    Oh blimey, right I'll have to update for this then.

    Volume automation has been in there for a while. It works great.

    I completely missed that, just found it in the version I have, and works brilliantly.

    Hmmm....time to have another go with this one I think.

  • SamuSamu

    Has anyone here been successfully able to restore all of the 'Project Red' AppleLoops into the latest Garageband 2.3? There's a ton of them missing after doing a 'restore'... (I will delete GarageBand and install it again to check).

  • SamuSamu
    edited November 2017

    GarageBand just got another update :)

    Yay, I can now restore my ProductRed Apple Loops!
    (That did not work in the previous 2.3 update).

  • telebteleb

    the focus of 2.3.1 seems to be stability issues and error corrections

  • SamuSamu

    @teleb said:
    the focus of 2.3.1 seems to be stability issues and error corrections

    Yeah, at least one noticeable error is corrected. I can restore and see my ProductRed loops again :)
    I'll see if I can find/feel other improvements...

  • RajahPRajahP

    Is there a way to ‘share’ GB projects here?

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