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Sadly being replaced by robots...
AudioGus said "Hmmm, looks like Texas never stopped..."
I thought the US still had the death penalty as there was a TV documentary series I saw recently that looked at criminals on death row. They covered the awful crimes they committed and also spoke to the families of the criminals and victims. Depressing viewing but interesting to see how low humans can go.
Same with Florida
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_individuals_executed_in_Florida
omg lol
Max, can I ask you: what would you do with the guy who did the Vegas music festival shooting? 58 innocent people killed, 422 wounded. 851 injured.
If the police were able to arrest him before he killed himself, what would your penalty be?
Max23 wrote: "Never let him out of his prison again. Simple."
Fair enough.
I'd go further and nominte the death penalty for a crime that serious.
If I were like a dictator (a boy can dream) and there were no group thingy rule of law etc I would cleave his head off myself and pose for a huge velvet painting with one foot on the head and my hand (bleeping) my (bleep). Seriously.
I vote "Gus for President. Make America sick again" :-)
but what if he didn't kill anybody in Vegas and instead poisoned the water in flint Michigan?
I think we all know that the real question is 'what would Madlib do'?
Life in prison. Killing him wouldn't bring those people back to life and wouldn't make us safer. Having a system that executes people essentially guarantees that you will execute some who are not guilty.
All systems with capital punishment also occasionally execute innocent people. Since executing people has no benefit other than satisfying some vengeful instinct, there can be no justification for executing people when we know innocents will die.
Having the death penalty encourages vengeance-thinking in a society.
espiegel123 wrote: "Having the death penalty encourages vengeance-thinking in a society."
One might argue that putting a person in a maximum security prison for the rest of his life is more cruel than than death. It is a continious , daily torture for the criminal. More vengeful perhaps..?
EyeOhEss wrote: "Politics is a joke. Democracy doesn’t work. "
I hear people on both sides of politics say this but what I think they are really saying is "I am not happy with the outcome of politics/democracy so I declare that they are a joke/doesn't work".
Politics and democracy are not meant to give the left or the right everything they want all the time. It would be crazy to expect that. But some people do.
I agree
wtf there is way too much agreement and civility happening right now.
My popcorn is getting cold!
Penn & Teller opened my eyes regarding the death penalty with that episode. I really miss that show. The show used critical thinking and reason to debunk, well, bullshit, and shone the light on the facts. If memory serves proper, the major eye opening moment came when they shared the fact that lethal injections, while once seen as the "more humane" way to execute someone, are actually a more excruciating way to die than the electric chair. Actually, there is no humane way to execute someone, so why even do it? It makes no sense.
Lol. I think because at the end of the day, despite everyone's political differences, we retain our sense of humanity.
DCJ wrote: "wtf there is way too much agreement and civility happening right now. My popcorn is getting cold!"
No it isn't, you lying commie right wing fascist creep! :-)
I’m from Europe but in Austin, Texas right now. It’s my 10th time in the U.S. and I love the country but there’s a lot I really cannot understand (patriotism, ghetto’s v.s. their view on world problems etc.) too much to write down so I will enjoy my Buc-ee’s nuggets for now (Texans will,understand).
All life is precious, those that espouse ‘love one another’ need to take a serious look in the mirror.
EyeOhEss... yes, very true. I know what you mean.
But what exactly is this "greater good" that you mention? It will be vastly different things to different people.
Even with abilty, education and selflessness people will still have different viewpoints about how society should work. That is just how humans are.
At least in a democracy we get to talk freely about issues and have a vote every 3 or 4 years. Would you rather not have democracy?
I always liked the old saying "the public gets the government it deserves and deserves the government it gets".
It guess it gets back to: he/she who does the hard work of lobbying for policy is more likely to get the outcome they desire.
Lobbying is not having a whinge on the AudioBus forum. :-)
Max23 wrote: " Revenge just makes your hands dirty. "
I know that in our culture revenge is a dirty word buy I'm not so sure revenge is always such a bad thing.
Yes, I know it doesn't undo what the other person has done.
And yes, some people don't want bad karma. And “An eye for an eye only ends up making the whole world blind.” And "2 wrongs don't make a right".
But I think revenge can sometimes bring, to use modern buzz word, "closure".
Revenge is not logical but humans are not 100% made of logic.