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MixBox CS by IK Multimedia

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  • HalftoneHalftone

    @BCKeys said:

    @ipadbeatmaking said:
    It is probably the best single FX purchase you could make on iOS.

    Hmm not for me, MixBox is awfully heavy on CPU.. I feel like I spend my life freezing tracks when I use it as my only effects module 😂
    Im pretty happy with Caelum/DDMF/Fabfilter plugins, I’m gonna delete MixBox sooner or later

    interesting - one of the reasons I picked it up was because I thought I read some user reports about it being not too bad on the CPU. I haven't used it that much to be honest, but the few times I have - just using one of the presets, I didn't notice it being heavy CPU. (ipad 2018) Anyone else find it heavy on CPU?

  • FingolfinzzFingolfinzz

    @Halftone said:

    @BCKeys said:

    @ipadbeatmaking said:
    It is probably the best single FX purchase you could make on iOS.

    Hmm not for me, MixBox is awfully heavy on CPU.. I feel like I spend my life freezing tracks when I use it as my only effects module 😂
    Im pretty happy with Caelum/DDMF/Fabfilter plugins, I’m gonna delete MixBox sooner or later

    interesting - one of the reasons I picked it up was because I thought I read some user reports about it being not too bad on the CPU. I haven't used it that much to be honest, but the few times I have - just using one of the presets, I didn't notice it being heavy CPU. (ipad 2018) Anyone else find it heavy on CPU?

    On my old ass devices, a few of the modules can murder it pretty quick but I don’t feel like it’d be anywhere near as bad on a newer iPad

  • JoyceRoadStudiosJoyceRoadStudios
    edited March 2021

    @Halftone said:

    @BCKeys said:

    @ipadbeatmaking said:
    It is probably the best single FX purchase you could make on iOS.

    Hmm not for me, MixBox is awfully heavy on CPU.. I feel like I spend my life freezing tracks when I use it as my only effects module 😂
    Im pretty happy with Caelum/DDMF/Fabfilter plugins, I’m gonna delete MixBox sooner or later

    interesting - one of the reasons I picked it up was because I thought I read some user reports about it being not too bad on the CPU. I haven't used it that much to be honest, but the few times I have - just using one of the presets, I didn't notice it being heavy CPU. (ipad 2018) Anyone else find it heavy on CPU?

    Totally fine for me, on a 2020 iPad Pro 12.9. I can imagine some specific modules being heavier than others. Recently I had a 15 track project in Auria pro, all imported audio stems. 5 instances of MixBox using just their presets, one on a drum bus, one vocal bus, one bass bus, and two more instances on single channels. Each instance had 2-5 modules inside of it. Plus on the master strip FabFilter ProQ and ProMB. Not to mention Nembrini amps and fx on some channels, and Auria pro’s own channel strip presets on other channels. No problems. 44.1 project btw.

    MixBox is not the lightest nor the heaviest, in comparison any of the FabFilters and Magic Death Eyes are considerably higher, but a th-u chain of dozens of pedals considerably lower...

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  • JoyceRoadStudiosJoyceRoadStudios

    @BCKeys said:

    @JoyceRoadStudios said:
    on a 2020 iPad Pro 12.9

    It’s 2x more RAM compared to my 2019 iPad Air 3...it doesn’t compare ;)

    My bad... I guess little to no chance it’s going universal. How does iFX Rack or NuRack work for you?

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  • ipadbeatmakingipadbeatmaking

    @BCKeys said:

    @ipadbeatmaking said:
    It is probably the best single FX purchase you could make on iOS.

    Hmm not for me, MixBox is awfully heavy on CPU.. I feel like I spend my life freezing tracks when I use it as my only effects module 😂
    Im pretty happy with Caelum/DDMF/Fabfilter plugins, I’m gonna delete MixBox sooner or later

    What single FX purchase do you feel is better than Mixbox?

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  • IK_MultimediaIK_Multimedia

    Any reports of issues should be made directly to IK Support via http://www.ikmultimedia.com/contact-support but also note that you should use a higher sampling rate if your interface allows and you should not have issues with audible aliasing.

  • HalftoneHalftone

    @IK_Multimedia said:
    Any reports of issues should be made directly to IK Support via http://www.ikmultimedia.com/contact-support but also note that you should use a higher sampling rate if your interface allows and you should not have issues with audible aliasing.

    Not everyone is using an audio interface though..

  • NeuMNeuM
    edited March 2021

    @Halftone said:

    @IK_Multimedia said:
    Any reports of issues should be made directly to IK Support via http://www.ikmultimedia.com/contact-support but also note that you should use a higher sampling rate if your interface allows and you should not have issues with audible aliasing.

    Not everyone is using an audio interface though..

    Personally, I try to use as few extra attachments and boxes as I can. For most projects, I’m able to keep the whole thing in and on the iPad Pro. I’ve found MixBox CS to be an outstanding app so far.

  • Bon_TempiBon_Tempi
    edited March 2021

    @IK_Multimedia said:
    Any reports of issues should be made directly to IK Support via http://www.ikmultimedia.com/contact-support but also note that you should use a higher sampling rate if your interface allows and you should not have issues with audible aliasing.

    I reported the issue with the audible ringing filter noise („aliasing“ its called - as I learnt here in the forum) already right after the app came out to the support of the IK-website ...

    And most of the feedback was a bit it odd ... almost as if I was doing something wrong ... in my usage of MixBox ...

    But again - the issue is there - no matter if I use an interface or not ...

    So what do you mean by „higher sample rate“?

    The buffer size of my host or the sample rate of my device?

    Cause no .... I can not confirm that the issue is in any way related to the buffer size of the host - at least for my ears - it makes no difference if I set it to either 64 or 1024 frames - if the set up of the filter is a way that the issue occurs - then it does occur independently of the buffer size ...

    And how or why should I change the sample rate - isn’t this depended on what my device needs?

  • NoiseFlooredNoiseFloored

    @IK_Multimedia said:
    Any reports of issues should be made directly to IK Support via http://www.ikmultimedia.com/contact-support but also note that you should use a higher sampling rate if your interface allows and you should not have issues with audible aliasing.

    This definitely looks like a rather strange solution, even if one is using an audio interface. Aliasing should be handled by internal oversampling instead (as IK does in other products).

  • uncledaveuncledave

    @Bon_Tempi The sample rate is the sample frequency of the audio data, 44.1 kHz, 48 kHz, 96 kHz, etc. Aliasing occurs when frequencies above half the sample frequency are "folded" about the sample frequency. For example, at 48 kHz, a signal at 30 kHz (=24+6) will be heard at 18 kHz (=24-6). These high frequencies need to be blocked in processing to avoid the artifacts you've described. Using a higher sample rate is a workaround that hides this problem.

  • erosseross

    @ikmultimedia can you pass along a request to make mixbox universal so it could be used on iphone as well?

  • Bon_TempiBon_Tempi

    @uncledave said:
    @Bon_Tempi The sample rate is the sample frequency of the audio data, 44.1 kHz, 48 kHz, 96 kHz, etc. Aliasing occurs when frequencies above half the sample frequency are "folded" about the sample frequency. For example, at 48 kHz, a signal at 30 kHz (=24+6) will be heard at 18 kHz (=24-6). These high frequencies need to be blocked in processing to avoid the artifacts you've described. Using a higher sample rate is a workaround that hides this problem.

    Ah, ok, interesting -

    But isn’t the sample rate a fixed thing depending on the capabilities of my device?

    Can I set any sample rate even up to 96 kHz? No matter which Ipad I am using?

  • uncledaveuncledave

    @Bon_Tempi said:

    @uncledave said:
    @Bon_Tempi The sample rate is the sample frequency of the audio data, 44.1 kHz, 48 kHz, 96 kHz, etc. Aliasing occurs when frequencies above half the sample frequency are "folded" about the sample frequency. For example, at 48 kHz, a signal at 30 kHz (=24+6) will be heard at 18 kHz (=24-6). These high frequencies need to be blocked in processing to avoid the artifacts you've described. Using a higher sample rate is a workaround that hides this problem.

    Ah, ok, interesting -

    But isn’t the sample rate a fixed thing depending on the capabilities of my device?

    Can I set any sample rate even up to 96 kHz? No matter which Ipad I am using?

    Yes, the sample rate is fixed, unless you use an external interface capable of different sample rates. That's why people mention this. As I mentioned, changing the sample rate is a workaround, not a fix.

  • Bon_TempiBon_Tempi

    @uncledave said:

    @Bon_Tempi said:

    @uncledave said:
    @Bon_Tempi The sample rate is the sample frequency of the audio data, 44.1 kHz, 48 kHz, 96 kHz, etc. Aliasing occurs when frequencies above half the sample frequency are "folded" about the sample frequency. For example, at 48 kHz, a signal at 30 kHz (=24+6) will be heard at 18 kHz (=24-6). These high frequencies need to be blocked in processing to avoid the artifacts you've described. Using a higher sample rate is a workaround that hides this problem.

    Ah, ok, interesting -

    But isn’t the sample rate a fixed thing depending on the capabilities of my device?

    Can I set any sample rate even up to 96 kHz? No matter which Ipad I am using?

    Yes, the sample rate is fixed, unless you use an external interface capable of different sample rates. That's why people mention this. As I mentioned, changing the sample rate is a workaround, not a fix.

    Ok - get it - thanks for the background information/insight ..,

    I truly hope this will get fixed - cause yes, I do love Mixbus overall and it’s “sound” in general -

    It’s just this behavior of the filters ... whenever I play with them - which is quite disappointing

  • iLLaFenTiLLaFenT

    currently on sale for $50. hmm. need vocal compressors and candy

  • GavinskiGavinski
    edited July 2021

    Free copy of MixBox going here, 2 more free copies for those who follow me on Insta and Twitter too, btw
    (just follow the instructions in the pinned Youtube comment)

    My Instagram
    https://instagram.com/gavinskistutorials
    My twitter
    https://twitter.com/gavinski_s?s=09
    (Follow the instructions on the posts on those separate platforms for extra free chances - ie I have one code to give away on each platform)

  • joniqwestjoniqwest

    @Gavinski
    Just followed you on twitter

  • GavinskiGavinski

    @joniqwest said:
    @Gavinski
    Just followed you on twitter

    Cheers - each platform has its own instructions. For youtube follow the instructions in the pinned comment - most regulars here will know how I do my giveaways, but I’m glad u pointed it out, thnx

  • seventyfourseventyfour

    @ikmultimedia hey there! any news about MIDI learn? :/

  • Max_FreeMax_Free

    No AU automation, no MIDI control?

  • 0tolerance4silence0tolerance4silence

    AU automation is available. It’s a bit hit and miss sometimes to figure out which param to assign, but it’s all doable.

  • tahichetahiche

    @BCKeys said:

    @Halftone said:

    @BCKeys said:

    @ipadbeatmaking said:
    It is probably the best single FX purchase you could make on iOS.

    Hmm not for me, MixBox is awfully heavy on CPU.. I feel like I spend my life freezing tracks when I use it as my only effects module 😂
    Im pretty happy with Caelum/DDMF/Fabfilter plugins, I’m gonna delete MixBox sooner or later

    interesting - one of the reasons I picked it up was because I thought I read some user reports about it being not too bad on the CPU. I haven't used it that much to be honest, but the few times I have - just using one of the presets, I didn't notice it being heavy CPU. (ipad 2018) Anyone else find it heavy on CPU?

    In my last test, it was a processing applied to 10 audio tracks (I usually don't use compression or equalization on drums which are already very clean, nor for synths, only bass, guitar and vocals). With MixBox, I obtain recalculations all the time.

    Then I copy the song, I remove the mixbox instances then I replace with solo effects, if I only consider 1 comp + 1 eq on these 10 audio tracks, it was 20 fx modules loaded : no recalculation.

    Not to forget some tracks with Saturn, gate, reverb, etc

    I didn't count the exact total number, but there were about 30 effects loaded versus 10 MixBox instances.

    In short, MixBox is a great set of effects, but too heavy for me and not necessarily essential for my needs ;)

    Edit : and I like MixBox !

    I’m wondering if a MixBox instance with say a gate+eq+compressor is heavier on CPU than a chain of Fabfilter gate+pro-q+compressor. My guess (based on nothing really) is that FF would be heavier. I guess it’s a “visual” trick, Fabfilter has so many knobs and meters going on that subjectively it makes it seem heavier on cpu than the Mixbox modules.

  • NeuMNeuM
    edited July 2021

    @tahiche said:

    @BCKeys said:

    @Halftone said:

    @BCKeys said:

    @ipadbeatmaking said:
    It is probably the best single FX purchase you could make on iOS.

    Hmm not for me, MixBox is awfully heavy on CPU.. I feel like I spend my life freezing tracks when I use it as my only effects module 😂
    Im pretty happy with Caelum/DDMF/Fabfilter plugins, I’m gonna delete MixBox sooner or later

    interesting - one of the reasons I picked it up was because I thought I read some user reports about it being not too bad on the CPU. I haven't used it that much to be honest, but the few times I have - just using one of the presets, I didn't notice it being heavy CPU. (ipad 2018) Anyone else find it heavy on CPU?

    In my last test, it was a processing applied to 10 audio tracks (I usually don't use compression or equalization on drums which are already very clean, nor for synths, only bass, guitar and vocals). With MixBox, I obtain recalculations all the time.

    Then I copy the song, I remove the mixbox instances then I replace with solo effects, if I only consider 1 comp + 1 eq on these 10 audio tracks, it was 20 fx modules loaded : no recalculation.

    Not to forget some tracks with Saturn, gate, reverb, etc

    I didn't count the exact total number, but there were about 30 effects loaded versus 10 MixBox instances.

    In short, MixBox is a great set of effects, but too heavy for me and not necessarily essential for my needs ;)

    Edit : and I like MixBox !

    I’m wondering if a MixBox instance with say a gate+eq+compressor is heavier on CPU than a chain of Fabfilter gate+pro-q+compressor. My guess (based on nothing really) is that FF would be heavier. I guess it’s a “visual” trick, Fabfilter has so many knobs and meters going on that subjectively it makes it seem heavier on cpu than the Mixbox modules.

    I’ve had numerous occasions when FabFilter apps will choke performance in iOS GarageBand, while MixBox CS has had no such slowdowns or audible stuttering or inexplicable audio processing offsets.

  • FloRi89FloRi89

    @tahiche said:

    @BCKeys said:

    @Halftone said:

    @BCKeys said:

    @ipadbeatmaking said:
    It is probably the best single FX purchase you could make on iOS.

    Hmm not for me, MixBox is awfully heavy on CPU.. I feel like I spend my life freezing tracks when I use it as my only effects module 😂
    Im pretty happy with Caelum/DDMF/Fabfilter plugins, I’m gonna delete MixBox sooner or later

    interesting - one of the reasons I picked it up was because I thought I read some user reports about it being not too bad on the CPU. I haven't used it that much to be honest, but the few times I have - just using one of the presets, I didn't notice it being heavy CPU. (ipad 2018) Anyone else find it heavy on CPU?

    In my last test, it was a processing applied to 10 audio tracks (I usually don't use compression or equalization on drums which are already very clean, nor for synths, only bass, guitar and vocals). With MixBox, I obtain recalculations all the time.

    Then I copy the song, I remove the mixbox instances then I replace with solo effects, if I only consider 1 comp + 1 eq on these 10 audio tracks, it was 20 fx modules loaded : no recalculation.

    Not to forget some tracks with Saturn, gate, reverb, etc

    I didn't count the exact total number, but there were about 30 effects loaded versus 10 MixBox instances.

    In short, MixBox is a great set of effects, but too heavy for me and not necessarily essential for my needs ;)

    Edit : and I like MixBox !

    I’m wondering if a MixBox instance with say a gate+eq+compressor is heavier on CPU than a chain of Fabfilter gate+pro-q+compressor. My guess (based on nothing really) is that FF would be heavier. I guess it’s a “visual” trick, Fabfilter has so many knobs and meters going on that subjectively it makes it seem heavier on cpu than the Mixbox modules.

    MixBox really shines when you use multiple instances. Somehow it’s really well optimized for that.

    If I use a single audio track with EQ, Compressor, Saturation, Reverb my iPad Air 3 will show around 45% DSP with MixBox and FF.

    But if I add a second channel that does that, with MixBox is will add basically nothing to the DSP staying at 45% while the FF variant goes to 70%.

    That’s really significant. I can run MixBox on nearly every channel without running out of power, I have to be much more careful with the FF plugins.

  • CrabmanCrabman
    edited October 2021

    It‘s on sale right now and looking at the sale history it should end very soon.Damn,need to make a quick descision…do i really need it?Dunno…Do i want it?Probably 🥴

    Could end as another app that i rarely use…hello appoholism,welcome back old friend 🙌

    Is the cpu usage noticeably lighter (when using more than one instance) in cubasis when enabling multicore support (i.e. on ipad pro 2018)?

    Oh,and how about the quality of the SSL bus compressor?Can it hold up to other (desktop) software emulations (not expecting a comparison to the hardware)

    The reading about the aliasing puts me a little of to be honest.I don‘t care about the filters but if it‘s also present on compressors etc…

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