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The Greenwood Massacre Centennial
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Well, that's my choice words.
I'm an Artist and a writer, I tend to use words with
emphasis and they tend towards the dramatic.
I'll look it up.
Thanks for the recommendation.
One moment.
I looked up the blurb, oh wow.
That is blatant hatred.
What I was referring to is 'self hatred' and this is the thing
I can also detect where it is coming from hence why
I mentioned in my earlier comment about my stereotyping.
Officer Tatum is repeating what is being said in his environment
and a lot of what he is saying stems from the very ideology
that The Turner Diaries summary depicts and that is being promoted.
I'm not bothered about any affiliations as long as they are non violent.
Good to know that you have access to information.
I posted the video But this is getting heated. Remember opinions are like elbows every one has one. What next. Cancel him?
Critical Race Theory from childhood.
This is all old hat. 😏
I’m not going to go that far (unless someone explicitly says they do), but I do find some of these responses quite shocking and disappointing.
No not at all.
Certainly not cancel him.
It's important that we hear what he has to say whether we agree or not.
Some of what he said was true but the context was inaccurate.
That's all.
If this thread is going to continue, you may as well just spell out what you believe is inaccurate and why. He cited numerous historical facts which have largely been ignored or wallpapered over by the media, the government and by special interest groups.
He is ignorant of the facts. There is no debate about what happened in Tulsa in 1921; a random guy who posts a cellphone video on youtube is welcome to guess about what he surmised “really happened” in Tulsa, but we don’t have to give it any credence.
It’s as vulgar as the rantings of a Holocaust denialist. And the “just asking questions” crowd knows this, but for some reason it’s important to them to cast doubt over what was meant to be a memorial of a tragedy.
By the way: “critical race theory” doesn’t really exist in the academy. It’s a Fox News creation.
Gravitas I can watch CNN or FOX news all day long and it’s the same propaganda. I trust and watch Al Jezeera or RT over my USA new networks but I read most of my news and occasionally look at the cartoons and maybe a crossword even thought I suck at crossword puzzles.
Critical race theory
Watch at your own risk.
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9640189/amp/Oregon-elementary-school-teacher-warns-colleagues-theyll-FIRED-refused-teach-CRT.html
I hear you.
I switched off that rubbish a long time ago though here it's the BBC.
I have news brought to me through very trusted sources these days.
My time is focused on music creation and the life that surrounds us all.
The yin to yang on CRT
watch at your own risk and once again dont complain to me I don’t even maintain a Facebook account and I rarely check email.
https://pbs.twimg.com/ext_tw_video_thumb/1399800406147055619/pu/img/ajkO1lbv7X-S1G-z?format=jpg&name=900x900
That's the Daily Fail.
Right wing proganda 101.
Well known here in the U.K for their right wing views.
Still I read the article, wow.
I like the second one but I’m not a communist or a racist nor am I Russian or Arabic because of news sources but I have a television so that makes me a lazy content consumer and yes in front of congress and the forum I’m guilty. But the DOD uno stuff that is going on right now is a cool distraction
Jpeg?
Yes.
Video link?
No.
On that note, heading out.
I'll rejoin the great debate on the morrow.
Thanks for the discussion everyone.
Quite thoughtful.
I agree with you. It is a troubling sentiment to demand someone act in accordance to a racial group.
The problem is that is not what was said here. What was said is a far cry from “he should act like his people,” and in fact again resembles truth. We should not speak according to our environment, to cater or appease to the prevailing thought. We should speak the truth, no matter how unpopular, or how many people agree or disagree.
https://mobile.twitter.com/robbystarbuck/status/1399800643880108035
This link should work
That guy is entitled to his opinion and doesn't seem to know what Critical Race Theory is. It isn't something opposed to the notion that people should be judged for who they are.
It is simply a view that racism has shaped many aspects of history and public policy which has been ignored by many (mostly white) historians. It is an attempt to correct that omission (particularly important in the U.S. where so many laws are informed by our history with slavery) by including historical racism in the writing and teaching of history. [Note: an awful of Americans didn't even learn that the South seceded over slavery when they learned American history in school.] It is a matter of historical record that much public policy has been informed by racism and yet little of that record has made it into history curricula. What is called Critical Race Theory by many is an attempt to fix that.
@Neum, by his own admission he only watched a couple of videos. I posit many here are far better informed than this fellow and with more reasoned conclusions... not stringing a few “facts” together and drawing a conclusion he, himself, agrees with. Even if the history of blacks and indigenous peoples is only 50% true, it is still beyond horrific and something I personally would not want to experience and wish to see changed... just as Johnson, a warmonger, ironically, did in the 60s. People must struggle for such change, just as there is a struggle here in this country (and many others) for the privilege of democracy itself.
As far as groups and individuals, obviously both have their place. It is unlikely we would even be discussing blacks, America, the Constitution, if a group did not fight a war to have a separate nation. Ask individuals at the time and a great many weren’t interested in the great experiment of democracy. Just as we are seeing many are no longer interested in that experiment, which I consider just, today.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Critical_race_theory
From the wiki page…
White privilege
White privilege is the set of social advantages, benefits, and courtesies that come with being a member of the dominant race (i.e. white people). For example, a shop attendant not following a white person around in a store because of assumption of shoplifting is viewed as white privilege. Another example would be people not crossing the street at night to avoid a white person.[36]
Cheryl I. Harris and Gloria Ladson-Billings describe a notion of whiteness as property, whereby whiteness is the ultimate property that whites alone can possess; valuable just like property. In this sense, from the critical race theory perspective, the white skin that some Americans possess is akin to owning a piece of property, in that it grants privileges to the owner that a renter (in this case, a person of color) would not be afforded.[37] The property functions of whiteness—i.e., rights to disposition; rights to use and enjoyment, reputation, and status property; and the absolute right to property—make the American dream more likely and attainable for whites.
Linear Lineman good points. But what anyone referenced or even the forum is nothing but opinion.
Audiogus that’s a lot to chew on. A hefty sandwich to digest.
But in the meantime be good to your fellow man, express your opinion and have mucho agape with you the world and those around you. Love and respect is better than the alternative and one more reference it’s a short read and it gives me hope. Words from a dead man.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/War_Is_a_Racket
Good old Smedley certainly was right about that.
“CRT” is Marxist critical theory with race substituted for class. That’s it.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Critical_theory
Critical race theory is an esoteric academic discipline that has not had much real world application outside of being a racist Fox News dog whistle. I can virtually guarantee that no one on this board had ever even heard of it a year ago. As proved by this Google Trend chart which shows the emergence of the CRT panic — exactly one week after the publication of the NYT's 1619 Project.
Critical race theory's value lies in its methods of interrogating systemic racism. And it has also proved valuable in derailing any discussion about race, like a thoughtful thread meant to come to terms with a racist tragedy in Tulsa.
Pretty sure I’d rather hang out with Tik Tok dude and his kid.
A few links. It’s a complicated issue in America and the rest of the world. But Alex Haley, the ACLU,!and the US National Socialist Party.
https://alexhaley.com/2019/09/10/alex-haley-interviews-george-lincoln-rockwell/
https://www.aclu.org/issues/free-speech/rights-protesters/skokie-case-how-i-came-represent-free-speech-rights-nazis
And I haven’t read Roots but I know it’s going to be a heart breaker.
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What is the evidence supporting those claims? You claim it’s valuable because of its methods? How? And what proof do you have of systemic racism?
If one has a worldview in which everything and everyone is racist by default, then that’s an admission by proponents of that theory that they are racist and that racism is normal and unavoidable. That sounds an awful lot like repackaged Nazism.
Appalling. Good night. You must be proud to have derailed a thoughtful examination of an American tragedy.
Racism exists! no doubt about it —-but Institutional or Systematic Racism is not in evidenced in my world,—this left wing ,post-modernists ,with equity rather than equality,Biden EO.iffy!
@NeuM: you wrote " And what proof do you have of systemic racism?"
I would like to better understand where you are coming from. Are you suggesting that there is not systemic racism in the U.S. and that systemic racism was not a significant factor in the past that continues to have consequences?
@NeuM, systemic racism does not mean everyone in the system is racist. That’s a red herring. It means the system covers up or rationalizes the racist behavior in its midst. It is in no way a repackaging of Naziism. This is like Trump transmogrifying his “Big Lie” into the “Big Lie” being the 2020 election.
It seems rather unlikely that any discussion or POV can justify even a small percentage of the actual hate crimes committed in the US. Exactly what would make you feel at peace with this issue? On a feeling level, what is it that upsets you about many people... millions in fact, that have come to the conclusion, either by personal experience, the injury or death of a family or community member, the burning of a church with people in it, seeing murder(s) on tv, extensive reading and evaluation, exploitation, unequal education, hate talk online, etc, that not all Americans are treated equally.
What would it mean if you acknowledged that, discrimination, violence and hatred is a reality millions live with? I am not baiting you. I just want to understand the underpinnings of your conclusions. Is it intellectual? Do you actually believe that these injustices are not happening? It is not hard to find solid information to the contrary.
Or is it that you feel if we suffer from the hand of another it is our own fault... as Tatum seems to be saying. I don’t imagine you have ever harmed anyone, and perhaps you have not been mistreated or harmed yourself. Me neither. That is, IMO, not a good place to judge another’s hardship. After all, even one experience can change a person’s life forever. For great numbers of oppressed people each day is a new onslaught.
This seems like a reasonable approach to me... take the promoted horrors of a particular injustice and divide by ten. If 600,000 Jews died in the Holocaust would it be insignificant? (Coincidentally the number of COVID deaths in the US after 16 months)
If the disproportionate violence, murder, imprisonment, injury, humiliation, profiling, housing discrimination, done to blacks (or Asians, or Latinos, or Muslims) compared to those born under the shelter of a white (tho albeit, pasty) skin is significant... even at 10% of the “propagandist’s” total... if that number causes concern to a reasonable mind.... should we not allow that this is likely a reality for too many people? That is, if you hold to the principle that we are all equal.
If each person is a universe unto himself, what is the allowable number of deaths and injuries to any group because of hatred that is acceptable? I posit that not one is acceptable.