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WTF Will Smith?

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  • Why should only those who wear pearls use the term ?

    Be honest you thought you could point the sexist finger at me.

  • @CRAKROX said:
    Why should only those who wear pearls use the term ?

    Be honest you thought you could point the sexist finger at me.

    Are you actually Will Smith?
    Please don’t hit me 😂

  • edited April 2022

    @CRAKROX, I don’t have a sexist finger in my body, much less one that points.if I’m sexist it’s against the male gender . I just think once you open up this divisive can of worms… and I agree, no one can really know what anyone else ever really feels… that everything is up for scrutiny. Especially expressions that evoke anxious women and why men shouldn’t be so ditzy.

  • wimwim
    edited April 2022

    Pointing a finger is such phallic imagery. I’m offended.

  • Smith resigns from Academy… will accept consequences. Should I feel sorry for him now?

  • Will Smith needs therapy to unpack that deep seated anger but he has a history of involvement with Scientology and isn't involved now but he might not trust a real mental health professional.

    Is self immolation one of the 21 Steps?

  • edited April 2022

    For those here who think it’s ok to strike someone….is Smith saying he agrees what he did was wrong, or is he just trying to do damage control to his reputation because of pressure by those around him?

  • @LinearLineman said:
    For those here who think it’s ok to strike someone….is Smith saying he agrees what he did was wrong, or is he just trying to do damage control to his reputation because of pressure by those around him?

    He issued an apology to on Instagram:

    For his image it's too late to fix the damage done to his career. Still, he'll continue to make movies and we'll see if his yield is impacted by the negative press. Movies in general are having trouble pulling in ticket sales during/after(?) covid.

  • @McD, but why this about face? He seemed pretty righteous when he was doing his number. He wouldn’t leave. He didn’t apologize to Rock right away. What got to him? Fear?

  • @LinearLineman said:
    @McD, but why this about face? He seemed pretty righteous when he was doing his number. He wouldn’t leave. He didn’t apologize to Rock right away. What got to him? Fear?

    Time will tell.

    But to me the greatest act of love, is to comfort the ones we love, when they are hurt.

  • wimwim
    edited April 2022

    @LinearLineman said:
    @McD, but why this about face? He seemed pretty righteous when he was doing his number. He wouldn’t leave. He didn’t apologize to Rock right away. What got to him? Fear?

    You never needed time to come down from a self-righteous position? Especially when the the adrenalin rush is still there? C'mon, it takes time to cool down and realize you were wrong. Or, if that's too charitable for you, to realize the hole you just dug and come to the conclusion that apology is the only way out. Sometimes it's a mixture of both. That doesn't always happen in the matter of minutes or even hours or days.

  • wimwim
    edited April 2022

    @McD said:
    For his image it's too late to fix the damage done to his career. Still, he'll continue to make movies and we'll see if his yield is impacted by the negative press. Movies in general are having trouble pulling in ticket sales during/after(?) covid.

    This will not affect his career in the least. Hand wringing of this discussion aside, nobody is gonna seriously give a crap by the time the next movie comes around - at least not enough to boycott or anything dramatic as that.

  • wimwim
    edited April 2022

    There's a burger joint around here (beautifully called "burger") that themes and names a choice of about 40 burgers after celebrities. After you place your order at the cashier they give you a stand-up placard to place at your table for the servers to find when bringing your order. Each placard has a mug shots of a celebrity. Keanu Reeves, Keith Jagger, Elvis Presley, Kiefer Sutherland ... they've got a ton of them.

    I have never seen a single person anything other than amused at the celebrities, nor refusing their burger if they bother to look up what they were arrested for.

    Sorry ... I just can't work up the slightest bit of outrage about this thing. It's between Rock, Smith, and the Academy Jada, Will Chris, and the Academy. Why anyone else cares so much about this is just beyond me. I'm not saying it shouldn't, I'm just saying I really don't get it.

    Now the John Wayne thing ... that's a whole 'nother story. Big-ass white guy trying to go after a tiny minority female sent there as a legitimate statement. That pisses me off. Two guys in a one-slap argument, that they worked out between them not so much.

  • @wim said:
    There's a burger joint around here (beautifully called "burger") that themes and names a choice of about 40 burgers after celebrities. After you place your order at the cashier they give you a stand-up placard to place at your table for the servers to find when bringing your order. Each placard has a mug shots of a celebrity. Keanu Reeves, Keith Jagger, Elvis Presley, Kiefer Sutherland ... they've got a ton of them.

    I have never seen a single person anything other than amused at the celebrities, nor refusing their burger if they bother to look up what they were arrested for.

    Sorry ... I just can't work up the slightest bit of outrage about this thing. It's between Rock, Smith, and the Academy. Why anyone else cares so much about this is just beyond me. I'm not saying it shouldn't, I'm just saying I really don't get it.

    You forgot Jada, unfortunately it was staged before the world.

  • wimwim
    edited April 2022

    @knewspeak said:
    You forgot Jada ...

    You're right. That was kinda sexist of me I have to admit.

  • I haven't read all the comments (10 pages already), but my take on this:

    The Oscar's awards is a Joke. An accumulation of people living in an alternative reality. People can become actors, but do actors can become people? (some do, but many don't).
    Will is an actor, and behave like so, but when the comment of Cris hits him and his wife, the actor has gone, and his past life sips through (yes, he had a rough childhood with abuse), and slowly after the outburst, the actor takes over.
    He also slaps him, while he could punch. Slapping someone is showing the person to put some manner in him. Punching is an outburst of blind hate against the person.
    The comment of Densel was not right. The Devil was in Will the whole time (childhood), but withstanded it until that moment.

  • @wim said:

    @LinearLineman said:
    @McD, but why this about face? He seemed pretty righteous when he was doing his number. He wouldn’t leave. He didn’t apologize to Rock right away. What got to him? Fear?

    You never needed time to come down from a self-righteous position? Especially when the the adrenalin rush is still there? C'mon, it takes time to cool down and realize you were wrong. Or, if that's too charitable for you, to realize the hole you just dug and come to the conclusion that apology is the only way out. Sometimes it's a mixture of both. That doesn't always happen in the matter of minutes or even hours or days.

    I honestly don’t know what to make of it…. except he was in the thrall of his wife.

    I agree, in the scheme of things it’s not very important, but it is a needed diversion, at least for me, from the truly horrific.

  • An actor has to hold it together while chaos swirls around them: press, handers on, big entourages, large support team of agents, PR, etc. This event will impact Will Smith for years.
    It looks like Chris Rock will benefit by being the better man. People will want to see his act and hear how he processes this going forward.

    Chris was excellent in the most recent "Fargo" season as a serious actor.

  • @LinearLineman said:
    @CRAKROX, I don’t have a sexist finger in my body, much less one that points.if I’m sexist it’s against the male gender . I just think once you open up this divisive can of worms… and I agree, no one can really know what anyone else ever really feels… that everything is up for scrutiny. Especially expressions that evoke anxious women and why men shouldn’t be so ditzy.

    I didn’t accuse you of being sexist, it seemed you were inferring I was by my use of the “pearl clutching” reference.

  • @CRAKROX, LOL, I didn’t really think you were sexist, just pointing out how insidious language can be, even when we use it unintentionally. I guess neither of us are sexist 😉🎶

  • @LinearLineman said:
    I agree, in the scheme of things it’s not very important, but it is a needed diversion, at least for me, from the truly horrific.

    Indeed.

  • @wim said:

    @LinearLineman said:
    I agree, in the scheme of things it’s not very important, but it is a needed diversion, at least for me, from the truly horrific.

    Indeed.

    I’d disagree, big thing’s, good or bad start small.

  • @LinearLineman said:
    I agree, in the scheme of things it’s not very important, but it is a needed diversion, at least for me, from the truly horrific.

    There will always be something worse going on.

    On the face of it, perhaps it doesn't seem important. But Hollywood stars were the de facto 'influencers' long before social media became the norm. What these people do, and the repercussions (or lack thereof) they face etch away at our/societies idea of what is acceptable.

  • Lord help us if movie stars are our influencers.

  • I want to know what DJ Jazzy Jeff thinks!

  • @wim said:
    Lord help us if movie stars are our influencers.

    Ronald Reagan was one.

    Publicity photograph of Ronald Reagan sitting in General Electric Theater director's chair.jpg
    Door Series: Reagan White House Photographs, 1/20/1981 - 1/20/1989 Collection: White House Photographic Collection, 1/20/1981 - 1/20/1989 - <a rel="nofollow" class="external free" href="https://catalog.archives.gov/id/75857031">https://catalog.archives.gov/id/75857031</a>, Publiek domein, Koppeling

  • Maybe Bill Maher can splain it for us. After all, comedians just went up a rung on the endangered species list.

  • @LinearLineman said:
    @CRAKROX, LOL, I didn’t really think you were sexist, just pointing out how insidious language can be, even when we use it unintentionally. I guess neither of us are sexist 😉🎶

    We all filter the world through our own frame of reference. So, I suspect we are all to some degree sexist, racist, elitist, conformist... Its OK really. Just don't let the label make you really angry. Just treat as you would suddenly seeing yourself in a mirror.

    There a social factors (institutional processes) that lead to there being very few females that interact here. Mostly because we tend towards sexist attitudes that make it a unfriendly place for females.

  • Are you serious @McD? We’re just a bunch of nerds, after all. Where’s the overt sexism?

  • McDMcD
    edited April 2022

    @LinearLineman said:
    Are you serious @McD? We’re just a bunch of nerds, after all. Where’s the overt sexism?

    Again, the knee-jerk reaction, "What did I/we do wrong?"

    Nothin' Bro. Just working my way through "Critical Gender Theory".
    Looking for inconvenient truths and stirring up fragile egos. Safer to do these
    experiments online in a trusting community.

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