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WTF Will Smith?
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I’m assuming you’re trying to be funny and failing.
I have pretty much the most extreme version of it and would feel silly calling it a medical condition, but hey, to each their own. I am jealous of Ron Howard and George Costanza... must be nice in the winter!
@CRAKROX did Will Smith do anything wrong at the Oscars?
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This post-event policing of humor is a real downer. Anyone walking on stage and slapping the performer is totally out of line. There are better ways to manage these strong emotions and society, the academy and media can help make this a teachable moment.
I also viewed Jim Carey’s kiss a moment of misguided stage humor in line with his younger self. I cannot find a comment anywhere from Alicia on how she felt about that. Adrian Brody did the same thing when he won Best Actor. How I wish Will Smith had used humor to settle his score but he choose violence. It was a show for his entitled queen.
Creating a category of Sexual Abuser and dumping in Weinstein, Woody Allen, Bill Cosby and Jim Carrey shows a real inability to judge an offense. No joke.
The pedophile conspiracy meme even carried over to slime a potential Supreme Court judge with a spoltleds record. Too many people see these labels and loose all sense of proportion.
Chris Rock and Jada have worked on several movies… he probably can’t nsidered her a friend early in the evening. Not sure he does now but as a class act he is processing the event but he’s a truth teller and someday he’ll share what he learned.
If I see that Will Smith is getting therapy I’ll be encouraged that he’s finding the root cause that triggered him to rage. He and Jada were involved with Scientology which considers mental health to be a corrupt profession. They don’t like their cult getting exposed with rationality.
Depends on your point of view.
Some might define it as defending his wife whilst others would not.
Personally I’d have probably reacted in the same way as would most of my social circle but the chances of any us being at the Oscars are astronomically remote.
Nice piece of victim blaming, irrespective of who hit who and whose joke was right/wrong she did nothing and to cast her as the villain just illustrates your own misogyny.
Interesting point of view, in the U.K. what JC did would legally be considered sexual assault in a court of law.
So if charged and found guilty, a likely outcome as there is video evidence he certainly would be dumped in the same group of nonces as Bill Cosby etc.
Trying to play it off as horseplay etc is simply male privilege speaking.
So, are you defending Will Smith, because you would also punch anyone who makes a joke about “your woman”?
The woman that “belongs to you”?
Your “weaker half”?
The title of this thread should be changed from “WTF Will Smith?” to “F Will Smith and now Jim Carrey too”
You totally misunderstand the whole thread.
At no point did I make any of those statements that’s simply your misogyny coming into play to assume I think like that.
And this is probably where @Michael would step in right about now.
Maybe, instead of being glib take some time to explore how it affects/impacts women who experience it.
Bald men saying it’s no big deal indicates lack of awareness that for women losing their hair has a different impact.
Like it or not, we live in a society where women are judged by their looks…often harshly. And it really does cause emotional pain whether you think it should or not for a lot of women that experience hair loss. I imagine that if you know any women who have lost hair due to chemo or radiation treatment, you would know that there can be embarrassment/shame. Those feelings are the fault of society.
(I am not saying anything about whether WS’ action was right or wrong.)
I’m actually finding this a really interesting exercise in shitty communication 😅. I feel like pretty much everyone here is making reasonable and interesting points worthy of discussion and consideration, but no one can see it past the prickles.
This is where a conversation, even among the exact same people, would probably be fascinating and enjoyable in real life, but is atrocious in text because of abject failures to communicate effectively and to assume goodwill in others.
My un-sought and condescending advice: just picture yourself sitting around a fire pit with a beer talking to everyone, instead of sitting at a keyboard. Get those human-to-human juices flowing. That came out wrong.
People don’t get front row seats to a roast when they don’t like the way they look without getting wigs, implants, nose jobs, butt lifts etc. if they can afford it and if it matters so much to them.
More victim blaming.
Defending the victim Chris Rock for doing his job well.
Are you saying you don’t think JDS is a victim ?
Also I think CR has to accept the responsibility that if you insult someone be they male or female you have to deal with the fallout be it heckling or physical confrontation.
I wouldn’t insult someone’s partner and expect to walk away without being checked for my behaviour in some form.
Seems to me CR got a little over familiar/comfortable and paid the price.
I kind of feel like the definition of the world ‘privilege’ changed in the last few years.
@CRAKROX, by what you say it sure seems we are products of our environment and the people we are associated with. Do you agree with that?
Do we associate with people because they reflect our own views or do our associations shape our own views over time? Or is it both? Are ideas about segregation of any type rooted partially in wanting people to think the same as we do? Is that an intrinsic root of tribalism (Fear, hatred and possessiveness aside)?
My social circle for forty years was based on one thing…. laughing as much as possible (eating and smoking weed being the other two legs of the nuclear triad). I know, preety, preety, shallow, but completely free of politics and identity issues (other than potheads of the world unite) . At my stage in life, and specific to my predilections, I eschew any society on a personal basis… except if you can characterize ABF as a social circle (one where we most often don’t know each other’s names). Strangely, the world interests me a lot more now. Frankly, it’s jaw dropping. Mostly, IMO, (myself included), it seems, opinions and stances cannot be separated from the unconscious influences we are all a part of and subject to.
Oddly, in learning to improvise, I had to learn to separate myself from unconscious, routinized behavior (in that case self judgement and repetition). It’s incredibly harder, I think, to do that with life in general. Unfortunately, it is rare to come upon a life approach system that focuses on the basic tenet that we live our lives in an unconscious dream state… and rarer that we try to awaken ourselves. What we seem to substitute are lists and call that consciousness. Lists of behaviors, needs, activities, opinions, reactions, interactions, even humor, that we apply over and over again and view as our “conscious” selves.
So, when I read opinions (including my own) here on ABF I experience members with varying levels of critical (in a good way) thinking. I find it interesting that when there is difference of opinion we all lean on our own self evaluation of acquired critical thinking skills to prop up our sense of rectitude… “I’m thinking about this in the right way… you, who disagree, are thinking in the wrong way”.
But, on a certain level, we all fall into the trap of our own, regularly exercised, ways of thinking… the very regularity of which has a large component of unconscious, routinized, patterns of thought.
A very good understanding of this phenomenon was iterated by Eckhart Tolle, IMO, when he described being able to embrace two competing narratives. In a sense this ability is on the same level as processing zen koans. It requires standing apart from our prized and imbued projection of “self” consciousness. And even if one has that ability it can not stop one from acting “righteously”…. a koan in itself.
I appreciate and am entertained by the sparring that goes on in these, pretty civil, discussions. However, I constantly have to remind myself of my own underlying unconsciousness… as well as the general unconsciousness of our natures. A possible (if not “interesting”) response to every statement on a social issue discussed here would be that of the anonymous zen monk…
“Is that so?” Not high on the entertainment scale, however.
So, in the UK @CRAKROX, you can get arrested for a kiss and/or a slap?
Good post, I needed to read that. My name is Glen BTW- lest anyone believe I was named after a coffee can.
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I feel safe talking here, knowing that CrakRox won’t punch me in the face.
Is that surprising ? Both are forms of assault when committed without consent.
@CRAKROX, not at all. Just inquiring because another member indicated it wasn’t illegal where he lived. Of course altercations happen all the time without arrests, even if police are involved.
As far as U.K. law is concerned this sums it up well
What is sexual assault?
Sexual assault happens when someone touches another person in a sexual manner without their consent. Or when someone makes another person take part in a sexual activity with them without that person's consent. It includes unwanted kissing and sexual touching.
What if the other person made a bald joke?
Is it ok to rape them then?
Jim Carey could have been charged with sexual assault,
Will Smith could have been charged with physical assault,
Many factors would have decided to proceeding with charges though.
You’re just being idiotic not and not even remotely funny, these are like comments from a child desperate to join in with grown ups.
You don’t tolerate anything do you?
I do not tolerate intolerance.