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WTF Will Smith?

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  • Having read through the recent posts I can say that I am glad Mike posted this here. I use Twitter, Facebook and Insta for my channel but rarely read others' posts. None of these social media networks have anywhere near the depth of nuance and intelligent response that we get on threads like this in this forum. The only thing that comes close is the Guardian comments section, but even there people rarely take much time to write a lengthy post such as the ones we see here on this thread. Some people here are probably taking half an hour or more to write their posts, likely with thoughtful pauses along the way for reflection. What a community. I salute you all.

  • With all the things going on and this distraction you are only feeding into it by posting about it more.

    This will be my only post on such things as I do not want to continue it any further, though y’all probably won’t stop until next year or a post gets banned.

    So, if the goal is to focus on “all the things going on”, I guess this is a major part of all the terrible things happening in the world?

    Play some music. Grow your own food when you can no matter how small the scale or large. Get some water stored even if for only a few days. Talk for a week or so about some famous people getting slapped. Ignore regular people that are getting slapped every day. What’s even important?

  • See, I even really appreciate this kind of post, though I don't agree with it in its entirety. That's the point. To provoke / invoke thoughtful exchanges.

  • wimwim
    edited March 2022

    @Gavinski said:
    See, I even really appreciate this kind of post, though I don't agree with it in its entirety. That's the point. To provoke / invoke thoughtful exchanges.

    Shaddup ya stinkin’ entitled commie bastard privileged snowflake flat earther! 🤬

  • Wtf does race have to do with this?

  • @CRAKROX said:

    Shut up, listen, then form an opinion. Equality, knows nothing of colour, sex, religion, only that meaning we impose upon it, which can and does change.

  • edited March 2022

    @wim said:
    Wtf does race have to do with this?

    Everything, the fact you’d don’t see it proves the point.

    https://amp.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2022/mar/29/white-outrage-about-will-smiths-slap-is-rooted-in-anti-blackness-its-inequality-in-plain-sight

  • @CRAKROX said:

    @wim said:
    Wtf does race have to do with this?

    Everything, the fact you’d don’t see it proves the point.

    Why, because I fail to see the relevance.

  • Oh and to add to the list of Oscar’s bad behaviour…

    In 1973, John Wayne had to be restrained by six security guards when he tried to rush the stage and attack the Native American actor and activist Sacheen Littlefeather. Littlefeather was on stage to accept the best actor award on behalf of Marlon Brando, who was boycotting the awards in protest at Hollywood’s depictions of Native Americans.

  • @CRAKROX said:
    Oh and to add to the list of Oscar’s bad behaviour…

    In 1973, John Wayne had to be restrained by six security guards when he tried to rush the stage and attack the Native American actor and activist Sacheen Littlefeather. Littlefeather was on stage to accept the best actor award on behalf of Marlon Brando, who was boycotting the awards in protest at Hollywood’s depictions of Native Americans.

    And this is relevant to this recent bad behaviour? Other than they live in a semi-delusional world.

  • edited March 2022

    Just illustrates the lack of pearl clutching when it’s a white person…

    Also people were acting like there had never been an incident like this before at the Oscars and how dare he bring violence to the party etc etc.

    Also no one then called for the return of JW Oscar awards as some were doing for WS yesterday in the media, in same way as many others who have committed much worse offences have not either.

  • @CRAKROX said:
    Just illustrates the lack of pearl clutching when it’s a white person…

    Also people were acting like there had never been an incident like this before at the Oscars and how dare he bring violence to the party etc etc.

    I think it’s relevant and interesting. thanks for bringing that up.

    I chalk the difference in reaction up to the change in times more than to anything else personally.

  • @CRAKROX said:
    Just illustrates the lack of pearl clutching when it’s a white person…

    Also people were acting like there had never been an incident like this before at the Oscars and how dare he bring violence to the party etc etc.

    If they were all white, I think a similar reaction would have happened. The institute is just as appalling as the people involved.

  • @CRAKROX said:

    @wim said:
    Wtf does race have to do with this?

    Everything, the fact you’d don’t see it proves the point.

    https://amp.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2022/mar/29/white-outrage-about-will-smiths-slap-is-rooted-in-anti-blackness-its-inequality-in-plain-sight

    In don’t accept that. I don’t think the reaction would be any different if they were all white. Just my opinion.

  • edited March 2022

    @wim said:

    @CRAKROX said:
    Just illustrates the lack of pearl clutching when it’s a white person…

    Also people were acting like there had never been an incident like this before at the Oscars and how dare he bring violence to the party etc etc.

    I think it’s relevant and interesting. thanks for bringing that up.

    I chalk the difference in reaction up to the change in times more than to anything else personally.

    Ok I see your reasoning but why no removal of Roman Polanski’s Oscar ? One that was awarded whilst he was in hiding for raping a child ?

    He’s still alive and has committed a much more heinous offence, could it be as I’ve already said that he’s white…

  • @CRAKROX said:

    @wim said:

    @CRAKROX said:
    Just illustrates the lack of pearl clutching when it’s a white person…

    Also people were acting like there had never been an incident like this before at the Oscars and how dare he bring violence to the party etc etc.

    I think it’s relevant and interesting. thanks for bringing that up.

    I chalk the difference in reaction up to the change in times more than to anything else personally.

    Ok I see your reasoning but why no removal of Roman Polanski’s Oscar ? One that was awarded whilst he was in hiding for raping a child ?

    He’s still alive and has committed a much more heinous offence, could it be as I’ve already said that he’s white…

    That’s the institution’s stupid behaviour, they can’t discipline the ‘gods’ for bad behaviour, could they now.

  • I just feel kinda bad for all three parties involved; Smith made a royal fool of himself on a night he’s spent his like working towards and ruined it, Rock made a crass joke that for some reason he thought would just about be ok between him and Jada but got slapped and called out on it, and Jada because she got double humiliated in one foul swoop, and days later people are still talking about it with the thing that makes her most uncomfortable in their minds as they do… no winners in that circle, maybe Rock because of the grace he took it with, but as someone said, he was bullied in earlier life so that must feel a bit shabby when he’s up there in front of the world.

  • wimwim
    edited March 2022

    @CRAKROX said:

    @wim said:

    @CRAKROX said:
    Just illustrates the lack of pearl clutching when it’s a white person…

    Also people were acting like there had never been an incident like this before at the Oscars and how dare he bring violence to the party etc etc.

    I think it’s relevant and interesting. thanks for bringing that up.

    I chalk the difference in reaction up to the change in times more than to anything else personally.

    Ok I see your reasoning but why no removal of Roman Polanski’s Oscar ? One that was awarded whilst he was in hiding for raping a child ?

    He’s still alive and has committed a much more heinous offence, could it be as I’ve already said that he’s white…

    I haven’t said Smith’s Oscar should be removed. But if it was, I’d assume they did it because of the conduct happening during the ceremony and perpetrated on a participant.

    But anyway, as I’ve said I think it’s absurd for this whole thing to be such a big deal anyway. I’m intrigued by the nuances of the conversation but at heart I think the whole uproar beyond silly.

  • The human race?

    I am offended!

    👋 slap!!!

  • @CRAKROX said:

    What a stupid opinion.

  • edited March 2022

    @LinearLineman said:
    @dendy, assuming you’re not a US citizen…

    holy crap.. ok, another confirmation i'm supper happy i don't live in US .. their law system is absolutely sick ..

  • @cyberheater said:

    @CRAKROX said:

    What a stupid opinion.

    Read the article I linked.

  • edited March 2022

    @CRAKROX said:

    @cyberheater said:

    @CRAKROX said:

    What a stupid opinion.

    Read the article I linked.

    I've read it. I can understand how racists folks could use the event to further their agenda but it's stupid to think if you are a white person that you can't have an opinion on seeing a black person hits another black person. That's a form of cancel culture which is a cancer on a society. I see one person assaulting another person and the fact that some people think it's okay shows the problems with our society.

  • Lol @dendy, there’s lots of reasons not to live anywhere 😉🙏

  • @CRAKROX said:

    @wim said:
    Wtf does race have to do with this?

    Everything, the fact you’d don’t see it proves the point.

    https://amp.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2022/mar/29/white-outrage-about-will-smiths-slap-is-rooted-in-anti-blackness-its-inequality-in-plain-sight

    I read that piece this morning, and found it very thought-provoking.
    Definitely recommended.

  • I think that Gruadian article shows how out of hand this is getting.

    If I have an outraged opinion on this I’m racist?

    What if they were both white and I had an outraged opinion on it?

    My opinions aren’t formed by history or the color of a person’s skin. Maybe that’s the case for some people in some situations, but I’m not sure how making blanket generalizations helps here.

  • edited March 2022

    @cyberheater said:

    @CRAKROX said:

    @cyberheater said:

    @CRAKROX said:

    What a stupid opinion.

    Read the article I linked.

    I've read it. I can understand how racists folks could use the event to further their agenda but it's stupid to think if you are a white person that you can't have an opinion on seeing a black person hits another black person. That's a form of cancel culture which is a cancer on a society. I see one person assaulting another person and the fact that some people think it's okay shows the problems with our society.

    As a white person you’re never going to understand the cultural complexities of the situation in the same way as a black person who lives them on a day to day basis.

    The same way that two white people in the same situation would have cultural factors that would influence their actions and the outcome that black people would not know.

    However you are entitled to an opinion but (white people in general) pontificating about something they don’t really understand, smacks of privilege.

  • @CRAKROX said:

    @cyberheater said:

    @CRAKROX said:

    @cyberheater said:

    @CRAKROX said:

    What a stupid opinion.

    Read the article I linked.

    I've read it. I can understand how racists folks could use the event to further their agenda but it's stupid to think if you are a white person that you can't have an opinion on seeing a black person hits another black person. That's a form of cancel culture which is a cancer on a society. I see one person assaulting another person and the fact that some people think it's okay shows the problems with our society.

    As a white person you’re never going to understand the cultural complexities of the situation in the same way as a black person who lives them on a day to day basis.

    The same way that two white people in the same situation would have cultural factors that would influence their actions and the outcome that black people would not know.

    However you are entitled to an opinion but (white people in general) pontificating about something they don’t really understand, smacks of privilege.

    Misreading a social situation is not the same as racism, and it can be because of any number of factors rather than skin color.

  • @wim said:

    @Gavinski said:
    See, I even really appreciate this kind of post, though I don't agree with it in its entirety. That's the point. To provoke / invoke thoughtful exchanges.

    Shaddup ya stinkin’ entitled commie bastard privileged snowflake flat earther! 🤬

    At least 4 of the above accusations are true, at least some of the time 😉

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