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KNOCK by DECAP (Released)

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  • @Toastedghost said:
    Amen. I have a disability and live on a low income, for those in work with decent income higher prices no probs, you want to kill my hobby fine, then I must move from music to creative writing, only need a pen or tablet.

    I really don’t understand this.

    The PC ecosystem has a THOUSANDS of free and open source alternatives for every use case I can imagine for music production.

    The iOS ecosystem is not cheap and is not accesible in terms of money.

    I will not spend 35€ of this kind of app but I understand why the developer put this price and I think is good for the iOS ecosystem.

  • edited December 2022

    @Toastedghost said:
    Amen. I have a disability and live on a low income, for those in work with decent income higher prices no probs, you want to kill my hobby fine, then I must move from music to creative writing, only need a pen or tablet.

    It’s a bit of a treat, for me, as well as a hobby. In the olden days when I had a proper income, and a pack of toilet rolls didn’t cost a tenner, I’d wander off and spend £40 (forty pound man is a thing) on mags, CD’s, a hot pie, maybe a t-shirt, while the Mrs was doing the proper weekly shopping.

    I don’t do that anymore - partly as I never go anywhere these days, as well as watching the pennies. So my occasional treat is a cheap, or discounted app on a Friday night, even if (as most of them do) it ends up in my unused folder.

    That way I get a 30 minute thrill before Eastenders comes on, and a struggling dev somewhere gets my fiver.

    If the constant calls for ‘desktop pricing’ come to pass, then people like me and you will have to think very, very carefully before buying apps. It’ll no longer be a purchase, or a 30 minute giggle, it’ll have to stand up as an investment.

    The question those setting the prices need to ask themselves is ‘are there a sufficient number of ‘pro’ musicians and moneybags out there willing to pay desktop prices for our apps, to make up for the lost sales from hobbyists and hot pie men?’ Maybe there are…only one way to find out.

  • @OnfraySin said:

    @Toastedghost said:
    Amen. I have a disability and live on a low income, for those in work with decent income higher prices no probs, you want to kill my hobby fine, then I must move from music to creative writing, only need a pen or tablet.

    I really don’t understand this.

    The PC ecosystem has a THOUSANDS of free and open source alternatives for every use case I can imagine for music production.

    The iOS ecosystem is not cheap and is not accesible in terms of money.

    I will not spend 35€ of this kind of app but I understand why the developer put this price and I think is good for the iOS ecosystem.

    I'm in the same boat as Toastedghost, having disabilities and living on a lower income, but I also keep a tight budget and allot myself a monthly stipend for any apps I may need. In this case, I dipped into my former OP-1 Field fund to buy Knock.

    And you're correct in that the PC ecosystem has many excellent free plugins. And iOS is not cheap, facts. But, if a producer already has iOS but can't afford much, I believe the combination of FAC Transient (punch), TB Reelbus (saturate), Roast Beef (sub), TB Enhancer (air), and K-Shaper 2/FAC Bandit could be the nearest equivalent to Knock. Knock also has "tone" controls as well as lowpass and highpass filters, which can be taken care of via a DAW's default paragraphic EQ.

  • iOS, despite the low prices, is definitely not for the budget musician. If it was, my YouTube stats would show a lot more viewers in their 20s (almost zero) and 30s(few). The majority are6in their 40s or 50s. iOS music is currently a middle-aged man's game (don't even ask about the tiny number of female viewers I have despite the sexy Northern Irish accent 😂 😂) . The kids are most likely doing crack(s) 😜

  • @Gavinski said:
    iOS, despite the low prices, is definitely not for the budget musician. If it was, my YouTube stats would show a lot more viewers in their 20s (almost zero) and 30s(few). The majority are6in their 40s or 50s. iOS music is currently a middle-aged man's game (don't even ask about the tiny number of female viewers I have despite the sexy Northern Irish accent 😂 😂) . The kids are most likely doing crack(s) 😜

    Rofl

  • @Gavinski said:
    iOS, despite the low prices, is definitely not for the budget musician.

    That's SO true. It all piles up...
    While the base host app may have a lowish price the cost of all the 'supporting apps & effects' is another story.

    A fully loaded Korg Gadget with all the support apps and IAPs is not exactly cheap and I would have a really hard time to sell it to someone just starting out with the iPad even though it's part of my 'App Trinity' (BM3, Cubasis & Gadget).

    I get it that Logic is one of the 'cheapest' desktop DAWs out there but those 3 iPad apps with 'everything included' is more expensive and doesn't do even a fraction of the real 'DAW Duties' Logic does...

    The questions I counter most often when it comes to iPad Musicians (they use it for sheet music etc.) is...
    ...'How do I get the stuff out so I can use them on my Desktop DAW?' and 'Can I run Logic on my iPad?'.

    Some use GarageBand on the iPhones to capture ideas and move on to the Mac to finish...

    Koala is one app I've had ZERO problems 'selling' to them and they enjoy it a LOT!
    (Just airdrop the stuff to the Mac and keep on going).

    So yeah, it's not only about the money, at least not for me...

    Cheers!

  • @jwmmakerofmusic said:
    I used to say "eh, one less drink from Starbucks". These days it's "eh, one less meal out at a restaurant". 😂 Well mates, looks like it's instant ramen for supper for me tonight. No way am I passing up Knock.

    That's the spirit! 👊

    @jwmmakerofmusic said:
    Knock is worth the investment for beatmaking whether you're a professional or hobbyist.

    But if you are a hobbyist, it's not really an investment, is it? (Until you convince yourself it is, of course 😀)

    @Gavinski said:
    (don't even ask about the tiny number of female viewers I have despite the sexy Northern Irish accent 😂 😂)

    This is probably not helping, because I'm a happily married hetero guy in my early fifties, but I find your Northern Irish accent absolutely sexy.

  • @Zerozerozero said:
    This “no proper daw” stuff is just an excuse. There’s plenty of ways to make full tracks on iOS using creativity. Hobbyists can stick to the cheaper less pro apps and people wanting to push it can try the desktop stuff to hopefully push it to new levels. It’s what iOS desperately needs. Crack on desktop people. Where’s it going otherwise.

    You can make amazing sounding, totally “pro” stuff on an iPad. BUT there’s no full-featured DAW if you compare to desktop daws. Things like buses, transient editing, audio editing, proper automation, etc…
    IMO iPad is better and more inspiring to create, experiment and get stuff done, but a lot worse than desktop when it’s time to finish a song (mix, arrange, automate…).
    The point being…

    people wanting to push it can try the desktop stuff to hopefully push it to new levels

    It’s hard to push it without a full-featured daw, so people just leave the iPad and go to their desktop to complete the songs.

  • @Stuntman_mike said:
    This conversation will be different this time next year. This is not price gouging, this is reality. Right now - iPads are not cheap devices, they are luxury products - so we are kinda spoiled with our low cost apps. Mobile is becoming the target of large developers…

    We have to accept that the iOS music app market is a weird exception. It doesn’t follow any market logic.
    A very small user base and small prices… In my opinion It’s thrived and survived mainly because we have a bunch of crazy, super-talented devs that love their work more than they love money.

  • edited December 2022

    @Gavinski said:
    (don't even ask about the tiny number of female viewers I have despite the sexy Northern Irish accent 😂 😂) .

    Irish? I thought you were Scottish! I always imagined you wearing a kilt with an iPad in one hand and a caber in the other...but, yes, your accent is sexy. I can't understand a word of it most of the time (have you considered sub titles?), but it is sexy. :smiley:

  • You can make amazing sounding, totally “pro” stuff on an iPad. BUT there’s no full-featured DAW if you compare to desktop daws. Things like buses, transient editing, audio editing, proper automation, etc…
    IMO iPad is better and more inspiring to create, experiment and get stuff done, but a lot worse than desktop when it’s time to finish a song (mix, arrange, automate…).
    The point being…

    people wanting to push it can try the desktop stuff to hopefully push it to new levels

    It’s hard to push it without a full-featured daw, so people just leave the iPad and go to their desktop to complete the songs.

    I’m biased towards my own workflow obviously but can do everything you mention above minus audio editing (never understand the finality of it - and a sampler on a track does the same thing). Arranging/automating etc seems no different in a good iOS midi sequencer to desktop logic or any other.
    Another point about desktop ports is the potential lure it has to established writer/producers, which I think would be a good thing..

  • edited December 2022

    @monz0id said:

    @Toastedghost said:
    Amen. I have a disability and live on a low income, for those in work with decent income higher prices no probs, you want to kill my hobby fine, then I must move from music to creative writing, only need a pen or tablet.

    It’s a bit of a treat, for me, as well as a hobby. In the olden days when I had a proper income, and a pack of toilet rolls didn’t cost a tenner, I’d wander off and spend £40 (forty pound man is a thing) on mags, CD’s, a hot pie, maybe a t-shirt, while the Mrs was doing the proper weekly shopping.

    I don’t do that anymore - partly as I never go anywhere these days, as well as watching the pennies. So my occasional treat is a cheap, or discounted app on a Friday night, even if (as most of them do) it ends up in my unused folder.

    That way I get a 30 minute thrill before Eastenders comes on, and a struggling dev somewhere gets my fiver.

    If the constant calls for ‘desktop pricing’ come to pass, then people like me and you will have to think very, very carefully before buying apps. It’ll no longer be a purchase, or a 30 minute giggle, it’ll have to stand up as an investment.

    The question those setting the prices need to ask themselves is ‘are there a sufficient number of ‘pro’ musicians and moneybags out there willing to pay desktop prices for our apps, to make up for the lost sales from hobbyists and hot pie men?’ Maybe there are…only one way to find out.

    I don’t understand this mindset…”it’ll have to stand as an investment”

    It’s always been about investing in yourself and your craft, not a dopamine fix or Friday night catharsis. One should be selective when purchasing tools. Not every tool is for every craftman or the correct tool for the job. This mentality of just hoarding and collecting every new hot app has got to end. There are more collectors here than actual music makers. More people augmenting their collection, not reading the manuals of the ones they already own, barking for more content to baby them on how to use stuff and solicit the hottest new offering.

    Designing poor man’s versions in Drambo, Nurack, and mirack often times prove very fruitlful and help you learn the stuff you own more. “Can this be emulated in the big D?” Is a great way to filter out what’s needed or how perhaps you can get close results with stock modules.

    Im disabled as well, on gov benefits and all that, full time student scrimping, but there are always choices. There’s a dude bitching about the knock prices on fb, but scroll down his feed and he’s downing designer ipas and trying on designer frames every other month. I often skip meals and social happenings and even going to shows these days, in lieu of investing my time and resources into my craft.

  • It would help drive sales if it could be installed standalone for free.

    (See Looperator for demo of how to do this effectively with an iOS AUv3 FX.)

  • @Simon said:

    @Gavinski said:
    (don't even ask about the tiny number of female viewers I have despite the sexy Northern Irish accent 😂 😂) .

    Irish? I thought you were Scottish! I always imagined you wearing a kilt with an iPad in one hand and a caber in the other...but, yes, your accent is sexy. I can't understand a word of it most of the time (have you considered sub titles?), but it is sexy. :smiley:

    Hahaha, my accent is extemely clear compared to most people where I come from, that's hilarious 😂 😂 😂 😂

  • @Gavinski said:
    don't even ask about the tiny number of female viewers I have despite the sexy Northern Irish accent

    I have lost count of the number of times I have had women commenting on friends with Northern Irish accents and wished that I had picked up my father’s Belfast accent. :lol:

  • @jwmmakerofmusic said:
    Knock is worth the investment for beatmaking whether you're a professional or hobbyist.

    But if you are a hobbyist, it's not really an investment, is it? (Until you convince yourself it is, of course 😀)

    LOL! That's true mate. :) But me being a professional, I knew it'd be a tool I'd use, and so it was a no-brainer instabuy for me. I expected it to enhance drums. I did not expect it to glue drums so masterfully on a drum buss. 🤣

    Now on the topic of "convincing yourself", that was me with the OP-1 Field after seeing Hainbach's video. I had all of these preconceived notions of how the OP-1F would work, how it was my "dream machine", how I'd save up for it and heroically purchase it and be "the bloke with an OP-1F producing Lofi and Ambient". 🤣 Then Loopop's video about it basically laid out the workflow. I realised that I would've wasted my money on an OP-1F without entirely knowing what basic workflow it had, would've hated how convoluted it'd be, and would've ended up selling it at a loss from what I paid for it. I would've kicked myself wishing I had bought a new 1TB iPhone 14 Pro Max for $400 less instead. 😂


    @taeo said:
    Im disabled as well, on gov benefits and all that, full time student scrimping, but there are always choices. There’s a dude bitching about the knock prices on fb, but scroll down his feed and he’s downing designer ipas and trying on designer frames every other month. I often skip meals and social happenings and even going to shows these days, in lieu of investing my time and resources into my craft.

    Let's just say while I don't skip meals, I do eat cheaper food that's bad for me if I make an investment. I'm sticking to what I said though - instant ramen for supper tonight. 😂

  • @Gavinski said:

    @Simon said:

    @Gavinski said:
    (don't even ask about the tiny number of female viewers I have despite the sexy Northern Irish accent 😂 😂) .

    Irish? I thought you were Scottish! I always imagined you wearing a kilt with an iPad in one hand and a caber in the other...but, yes, your accent is sexy. I can't understand a word of it most of the time (have you considered sub titles?), but it is sexy. :smiley:

    Hahaha, my accent is extemely clear compared to most people where I come from, that's hilarious 😂 😂 😂 😂

    Yep. I have never had any problem understanding Norn Iron accents, but I can’t imagine anyone having a problem with your accent as you speak so clearly.

  • @taeo said:
    I don’t understand this mindset…”it’ll have to stand as an investment”

    It’s always been about investing in yourself and your craft, not a dopamine fix or Friday night catharsis. One should be selective when purchasing tools.

    Why? Some apps I’ll happily buy on release at full price, if I know they’re going to pay their way - i.e. make my musical output less horrible and more interesting to me at least. That’s the selective part. The investment of money, and time.

    But I don’t earn a living from music now, so it’s purely entertainment value. Long term, as above, or a quick giggle for a fiver on a Friday night. I’m not looking for a ‘tool’ for my Friday night purchases, just the pleasure of making noises with a new thing. I lead a very dull life.

    At the end of the year, I will have invariably spent more money on the fiver (or these days under a tenner) apps than the serious jobbies.

    I realise not many people are like me, but without running a poll it’s all I have to go on - so for me, the general hiking of app prices to desktop levels will shut the door on many, many developers, and only those offering investment potential (long-term fun, musical enhancement, uniqueness, and dependable updates) will get my lolly.

    As Syd Barrett once said: ‘have you got it yet?’

  • edited December 2022

    @taeo said:
    I don’t understand this mindset…”it’ll have to stand as an investment”

    It’s always been about investing in yourself and your craft, not a dopamine fix or Friday night catharsis. One should be selective when purchasing tools. Not every tool is for every craftman or the correct tool for the job. This mentality of just hoarding and collecting every new hot app has got to end. There are more collectors here than actual music makers. More people augmenting their collection, not reading the manuals of the ones they already own, barking for more content to baby them on how to use stuff and solicit the hottest new offering.

    Designing poor man’s versions in Drambo, Nurack, and mirack often times prove very fruitlful and help you learn the stuff you own more. “Can this be emulated in the big D?” Is a great way to filter out what’s needed or how perhaps you can get close results with stock modules.

    👍 - I've been a hoarder/collector of a growing number of unused apps both on desktop and iPad for a while now but my new years resolution is to be more selective and to actually use the stuff I buy.

  • @monz0id said:
    Long term, as above, or a quick giggle for a fiver on a Friday night. I’m not looking for a ‘tool’ for my Friday night purchases, just the pleasure of making noises with a new thing. I lead a very dull life.

    A lot of these apps are cheaper & more fun than going to see some crappy Hollywood movie that is over in 90 minutes. :smiley:

  • I wonder if any thread around here has ever gone further off topic?
    🤣

  • @CracklePot said:
    I wonder if any thread around here has ever gone further off topic?
    🤣

    ... with a title still mentioning "coming soon to iOS" 😂🙈

  • @Simon said:

    @monz0id said:
    Long term, as above, or a quick giggle for a fiver on a Friday night. I’m not looking for a ‘tool’ for my Friday night purchases, just the pleasure of making noises with a new thing. I lead a very dull life.

    A lot of these apps are cheaper & more fun than going to see some crappy Hollywood movie that is over in 90 minutes. :smiley:

    Exactly! And considering the nearest proper cinema is 40 miles away from here, a throwaway fiver app provides a bit of light entertainment, and a break from flicking slugs off my cabbages.

    @CracklePot said:
    I wonder if any thread around here has ever gone further off topic?

    Most threads can cope with two convergent conversations, particularly if they’re related. However you’ve just introduced a third one, so there’s the potential now for complete chaos…

  • edited December 2022

    I'm glad someone finally came out and said you can get the same job done with standard built in tools or cheaper apps, didn't wanna seem like I'm poo pooing knock but I tied it round a mates on his desktop and well yeah it a bit underwhelming, most of these all in one influencer/producer type plugins are imho, you're simply paying for the association, eventually this stuff will end up on plugin boutique as a freebie..

  • @Simon said:

    @Gavinski said:
    (don't even ask about the tiny number of female viewers I have despite the sexy Northern Irish accent 😂 😂) .

    Irish? I thought you were Scottish! I always imagined you wearing a kilt with an iPad in one hand and a caber in the other...but, yes, your accent is sexy. I can't understand a word of it most of the time (have you considered sub titles?), but it is sexy. :smiley:

    Ha ha ha… as a Scotsman, you forgot the Whisky and the inevitable Sean Connery impressions, whilst trying to create a beat! 🤣

  • Surely you meant 'whiskey', good sir 😜🥃

  • Irish make good WhiskEy, used to drink Bushmills & Kilbeggan.

  • @Gavinski said:
    Surely you meant 'whiskey', good sir 😜🥃

    Well… the celts know their Whisky/whiskey. 🥃 Sláinte

  • @Slush said:
    Irish make good WhiskEy, used to drink Bushmills & Kilbeggan.

    Bushmills 10 is a lovely dram indeed, as is Redbreast. Overall though, Scotland preserved its whisk(e)y industry much better than Ireland did, though in Victorian times Irish was considered the better of the two.

  • Someone mentioned Drum Surgeon as a possible rival to Knock. I just compared them. While Drum Surgeon gives good bite for sure, it is nowhere near the level of heaviness and punch of Knock. Beef is the only thing I have tested that comes close.

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