Audio Damage raised some prices 6 months ago

Gavinski

@michael_m said:

@Gavinski said:

@GUB said:
Another way I've thought about it. Some people refuse to buy an app that is IAA and long-ignored by its dev, even though it may be universally regarded as a classic, and would rather buy something with mixed reviews that's AUV3.

But if a genie came to me and offered a choice between two relationships -- Maryiln Monroe for a month, or the cutie from down the street for a year, or maybe even five or ten years -- I'd go with Marilyn. But that's just me.

Abandoned structures in the middle of nowhere, or outdated machinery and technology cast a spell of fascination over me too, so maybe there's a connection. What gives things beauty, and what makes life precious (if it is) is very much tied to the fact that those things are as ephemeral and fleeting as the foam on a wave.

@Gavinski said:

Dead, dying or relatively unknown apps are the closest we have to the kind of gear Hainbach makes vids about and that everyone lusts after 😂. If you want to stand out in the ios world, just use apps that are more than a few months old. That pretty much counts as vintage on ABF lol

Hahaha, yeah, not sure Marilyn Monroe would be my personal choice but I love the analogy.

Not me - she’s been buried for 61 years…

I was gonna make that joke earlier actually but decided it was a bit too tacky 😂, glad someone else was willing to pick up the mantle tho, cheers Michael! Might now have to go and ask chat gpt to make a joke about shagging a celebrity corpse (would there even be anything resembling a corpse at this point? 🤔) Anyway... 😅

michael_m

@Gavinski said:

@michael_m said:

@Gavinski said:

@GUB said:
Another way I've thought about it. Some people refuse to buy an app that is IAA and long-ignored by its dev, even though it may be universally regarded as a classic, and would rather buy something with mixed reviews that's AUV3.

But if a genie came to me and offered a choice between two relationships -- Maryiln Monroe for a month, or the cutie from down the street for a year, or maybe even five or ten years -- I'd go with Marilyn. But that's just me.

Abandoned structures in the middle of nowhere, or outdated machinery and technology cast a spell of fascination over me too, so maybe there's a connection. What gives things beauty, and what makes life precious (if it is) is very much tied to the fact that those things are as ephemeral and fleeting as the foam on a wave.

@Gavinski said:

Dead, dying or relatively unknown apps are the closest we have to the kind of gear Hainbach makes vids about and that everyone lusts after 😂. If you want to stand out in the ios world, just use apps that are more than a few months old. That pretty much counts as vintage on ABF lol

Hahaha, yeah, not sure Marilyn Monroe would be my personal choice but I love the analogy.

Not me - she’s been buried for 61 years…

I was gonna make that joke earlier actually but decided it was a bit too tacky 😂, glad someone else was willing to pick up the mantle tho, cheers Michael! Might now have to go and ask chat gpt to make a joke about shagging a celebrity corpse (would there even be anything resembling a corpse at this point? 🤔) Anyway... 😅

It would be like sticking it in porridge…

(Sorry, I guess I’ve been watching too much Frankie Boyle lately)

HotStrange

@michael_m said:

@Gavinski said:

@michael_m said:

@Gavinski said:

@GUB said:
Another way I've thought about it. Some people refuse to buy an app that is IAA and long-ignored by its dev, even though it may be universally regarded as a classic, and would rather buy something with mixed reviews that's AUV3.

But if a genie came to me and offered a choice between two relationships -- Maryiln Monroe for a month, or the cutie from down the street for a year, or maybe even five or ten years -- I'd go with Marilyn. But that's just me.

Abandoned structures in the middle of nowhere, or outdated machinery and technology cast a spell of fascination over me too, so maybe there's a connection. What gives things beauty, and what makes life precious (if it is) is very much tied to the fact that those things are as ephemeral and fleeting as the foam on a wave.

@Gavinski said:

Dead, dying or relatively unknown apps are the closest we have to the kind of gear Hainbach makes vids about and that everyone lusts after 😂. If you want to stand out in the ios world, just use apps that are more than a few months old. That pretty much counts as vintage on ABF lol

Hahaha, yeah, not sure Marilyn Monroe would be my personal choice but I love the analogy.

Not me - she’s been buried for 61 years…

I was gonna make that joke earlier actually but decided it was a bit too tacky 😂, glad someone else was willing to pick up the mantle tho, cheers Michael! Might now have to go and ask chat gpt to make a joke about shagging a celebrity corpse (would there even be anything resembling a corpse at this point? 🤔) Anyway... 😅

It would be like sticking it in porridge…

(Sorry, I guess I’ve been watching too much Frankie Boyle lately)

😂😂😂😂

Gavinski

@michael_m said:

@Gavinski said:

@michael_m said:

@Gavinski said:

@GUB said:
Another way I've thought about it. Some people refuse to buy an app that is IAA and long-ignored by its dev, even though it may be universally regarded as a classic, and would rather buy something with mixed reviews that's AUV3.

But if a genie came to me and offered a choice between two relationships -- Maryiln Monroe for a month, or the cutie from down the street for a year, or maybe even five or ten years -- I'd go with Marilyn. But that's just me.

Abandoned structures in the middle of nowhere, or outdated machinery and technology cast a spell of fascination over me too, so maybe there's a connection. What gives things beauty, and what makes life precious (if it is) is very much tied to the fact that those things are as ephemeral and fleeting as the foam on a wave.

@Gavinski said:

Dead, dying or relatively unknown apps are the closest we have to the kind of gear Hainbach makes vids about and that everyone lusts after 😂. If you want to stand out in the ios world, just use apps that are more than a few months old. That pretty much counts as vintage on ABF lol

Hahaha, yeah, not sure Marilyn Monroe would be my personal choice but I love the analogy.

Not me - she’s been buried for 61 years…

I was gonna make that joke earlier actually but decided it was a bit too tacky 😂, glad someone else was willing to pick up the mantle tho, cheers Michael! Might now have to go and ask chat gpt to make a joke about shagging a celebrity corpse (would there even be anything resembling a corpse at this point? 🤔) Anyway... 😅

It would be like sticking it in porridge…

(Sorry, I guess I’ve been watching too much Frankie Boyle lately)

Hahaha, either that or the recent Viz comments here have resurrected (no pun intended) your inner Roger Mellie

ervin

Other than @mistercharlie, has anyone noted the bit of casual misogyny in the scenario "if I could take either of two women just like that..."?

Gavinski

@ervin said:
Other than @mistercharlie, has anyone noted the bit of casual misogyny in the scenario "if I could take either of two women just like that..."?

Maybe we're splitting hairs here, but it might be more accurate to say casual male entitlement. Anyway, I just dipped my wick, so to speak, into one messy thread so will leave it to others to go down this particular rabbit hole here if they so desire.

PDK

@Gavinski said:

Anyway, I just dipped my wick, so to speak, into one messy thread so will leave it to others to go down this particular rabbit hole here if they so desire.

Fnarr Fnarrr….

Gavinski

@PDK said:

@Gavinski said:

Anyway, I just dipped my wick, so to speak, into one messy thread so will leave it to others to go down this particular rabbit hole here if they so desire.

Fnarr Fnarrr….

Finbar for the win lol

PDK

😂👍🏻😂

ervin

@Gavinski said:

@ervin said:
Other than @mistercharlie, has anyone noted the bit of casual misogyny in the scenario "if I could take either of two women just like that..."?

Maybe we're splitting hairs here, but it might be more accurate to say casual male entitlement. Anyway, I just dipped my wick, so to speak, into one messy thread so will leave it to others to go down this particular rabbit hole here if they so desire.

I'll happily take your wording over mine, it's a better description. 👍

Simon

@ervin said:
Other than @mistercharlie, has anyone noted the bit of casual misogyny in the scenario "if I could take either of two women just like that..."?

Appalling.

You should report it to the EU immediately...

michael_m

@ervin said:
Other than @mistercharlie, has anyone noted the bit of casual misogyny in the scenario "if I could take either of two women just like that..."?

I think we’re all guilty of not paying attention to what we say sometimes. Yes, the terminology could have been better, but hopefully there’s a learning experience now that it has been pointed out.

ervin

@Simon said:

@ervin said:
Other than @mistercharlie, has anyone noted the bit of casual misogyny in the scenario "if I could take either of two women just like that..."?

Appalling.

You should report it to the EU immediately...

Well, batting it aside with jokes is certainly one way of dealing with male entitlement. 🙂

I don't know about you, of course, but I keep discovering stuff that I internalised through my life and never thought twice about them, but on closer inspection I now realise it's probably time to become a bit better, personally 🤷

Simon

@ervin said:
I don't know about you, of course, but I keep discovering stuff that I internalised through my life and never thought twice about them, but on closer inspection I now realise it's probably time to become a bit better, personally 🤷

Fair enough.

I don't feel the need to correct people on every slight non-PC thing they might utter.

ervin

@Simon said:

@ervin said:
I don't know about you, of course, but I keep discovering stuff that I internalised through my life and never thought twice about them, but on closer inspection I now realise it's probably time to become a bit better, personally 🤷

Fair enough.

I don't feel the need to correct people on every slight non-PC thing they might utter.

I fully agree with this last sentence.

HotStrange

@Simon said:

@ervin said:
I don't know about you, of course, but I keep discovering stuff that I internalised through my life and never thought twice about them, but on closer inspection I now realise it's probably time to become a bit better, personally 🤷

Fair enough.

I don't feel the need to correct people on every slight non-PC thing they might utter.

That’s true and I certainly don’t either but I also think there’s nothing wrong with pointing it out. It’s fine to joke about and know it’s a joke but also helps to reflect on yourself and things you’ve internalized, so it doesn’t become more than a joke.

espiegel123

@Simon said:

@ervin said:
I don't know about you, of course, but I keep discovering stuff that I internalised through my life and never thought twice about them, but on closer inspection I now realise it's probably time to become a bit better, personally 🤷

Fair enough.

I don't feel the need to correct people on every slight non-PC thing they might utter.

Being made aware of the exclusionary way that many of us use to express ourselves is a way that we can become better and more considerate. Calling things “PC” and “woke” strike me as something people do to avoid accepting that we can do better.

Simon

@espiegel123 said:
Being made aware of the exclusionary way that many of us use to express ourselves is a way that we can become better and more considerate. Calling things “PC” and “woke” strike me as something people do to avoid accepting that we can do better.

Exposing the woke does make the world better.

michael_m

@Simon said:

@espiegel123 said:
Being made aware of the exclusionary way that many of us use to express ourselves is a way that we can become better and more considerate. Calling things “PC” and “woke” strike me as something people do to avoid accepting that we can do better.

Exposing the woke does make the world better.

Generalizing all attempts to become better people with one word is not going to make the world a better place. I agree that jumping on all minor infractions and publicly punishing all peccadilloes is not helpful either.

We would probably all do better if we looked for the middle ground and started having more dialog. The term ‘woke’ isn’t really helpful, as it pretty much immediately evokes responses that divide people.

benlefoe

I think this thread has run its course… I started it to share some info 6 months ago, not expecting it to be resurrected and turned into a melange of dev-bashing, celeb necro-humour and casual male entitlement.

I don’t mind the Viz jokes though… I’m very proud of the two letters of mine that Viz has published.

MrSmileZ

Why are we going to pay more? Most of my audiodamage plugs are unpredictable in both Logic and in beatmaker3 so I’m confused about this. I really don’t care what you charge…if the plug is a must have and if it KEEPS WORKING we are good here.

Gavinski

@benlefoe said:
I think this thread has run its course… I started it to share some info 6 months ago, not expecting it to be resurrected and turned into a melange of dev-bashing, celeb necro-humour and casual male entitlement.

I don’t mind the Viz jokes though… I’m very proud of the two letters of mine that Viz has published.

Hahaha, props! 😂

HotStrange

@espiegel123 said:

@Simon said:

@ervin said:
I don't know about you, of course, but I keep discovering stuff that I internalised through my life and never thought twice about them, but on closer inspection I now realise it's probably time to become a bit better, personally 🤷

Fair enough.

I don't feel the need to correct people on every slight non-PC thing they might utter.

Being made aware of the exclusionary way that many of us use to express ourselves is a way that we can become better and more considerate. Calling things “PC” and “woke” strike me as something people do to avoid accepting that we can do better.

Agreed. I keep seeing “go woke go broke” everywhere and it’s doing my head in.

Simon

@HotStrange said:
Agreed. I keep seeing “go woke go broke” everywhere and it’s doing my head in.

Yes, you hear & see it a lot. I think it is like the old rule that "for every action there is an opposite reaction". The companies that "go woke" get the support from the left but also get grief from the right. That is to be expected.

The saying I keep hearing repeated over and over is "diversity is our strength" .

I read a news article the other day where someone said "words are bullets". My reaction was to laugh and think "tell that to people in Ukraine. Or people shot in the daily shootings in US cities".

ervin

@Simon said:

I read a news article the other day where someone said "words are bullets". My reaction was to laugh and think "tell that to people in Ukraine. Or people shot in the daily shootings in US cities".

Yeah that's over the top. But perhaps a better analogy could be that words can be triggers - to someone else's gun. Or sparks that can set everything on fire. Those analogies would be valid, I think.

michael_m

@benlefoe said:
I think this thread has run its course… I started it to share some info 6 months ago, not expecting it to be resurrected and turned into a melange of dev-bashing, celeb necro-humour and casual male entitlement.

I don’t mind the Viz jokes though… I’m very proud of the two letters of mine that Viz has published.

Can you post them here so we can see which ones?

GUB

Uh, of course. Really?

If you said," I'd love to have sex with (insert some name)," should I ask if you were talking about rape? That's similar to the question you are asking me here, and I find it odd that this would be the first thing that occurs to you.

Plus you're wondering if the hypothetical "cutie" would have any say in the imaginary 10-year relationship with me. Do you know a lot of people in 10-year relationships, where one person had no say in the matter?

I generally give my words enough consideration that they are not susceptible to being undermined by half-baked "gotcha" questions intended to illustrate the questioners greater moral standing. In fact, since you are trying to make an ethical point, know that I studied ethics when I got my undergrad philosophy degree at UC Berkeley, and it almost certainly is going to take more effort than you put forth to catch me in an error or self-contradiction. So I invite you to take another try.

I'm not upset or offended, by the way. I love to argue. I don't think this is the place for that kind of argument, though. Do you?

@mistercharlie said:

@GUB said:

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But if a genie came to me and offered a choice between two relationships -- Maryiln Monroe for a month, or the cutie from down the street for a year, or maybe even five or ten years -- I'd go with Marilyn. But that's just me.

Do Marilyn or the cutie get a say in this? Especially the cutie, who’s in for five-to-ten?

GUB

@erbin

If this casual misogyny you’re referencing is something you’re attributing to me, I am left with several questions about your prejudices and assumptions. If it’s not directed at me, you can skip the rest

Let’s start with my first q.

You seem to be assuming that the cutie down the street I hypothetically describe is a woman. Am I right? Why this assumption? Certainly without it, a charge of misogyny against me is not supported by evidence, right?

I won’t pepper you with the other questions yet, I’ll just wait on your answer to this one which I assume won’t be forthcoming in any defensible or coherent form.

Your turn.

GUB

@HotStrange said:

No offense taken…

I appreciate your response.

Yeah, the only offens I thought someone might legitimately take is if the developer read here that his app may be dead or dying, words I should’ve put in scare quotes.

My actual take is that any app that works at all is not dead, and all apps like all living things are dying. It’s just a question of when that process is complete.

GUB

@Gavinsky

Too tacky? Does the girlfriend in a coma you’d eagerly diddle agree with that assessment?