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Looks like FCP and LP coming to iPad

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  • For me it is very reasonably priced so I will be certainly taking a look when it is released. I am pleased that they did not gate this with “only >= M1 architecture” as well, though I expect this was a business decision since this is not a freebie and so they want to offer to it to as many people as possible. Apple did a great job keeping this news under wraps!

    I have not seen mention of the score editor, which is the thing that I am most interested in. I can sort of understand them not porting it but if it is not there (or the touch implementation is lacking) then I’ll continue to use MTS as my main DAW as that already ticks a lot of the boxes for my way of working, such as bi-directional cross-platform projects.

    Exciting times for iOS!

  • edited May 2023

    Who cares about what it ISN’T (faithful 1 to 1 from Logic Pro)?
    I care about what it IS!
    5$ a month?! Take more of my money, Apple!

  • @gregsmith said:
    Well this is very exciting. I’m lucky and privileged enough to be able to afford 50 notes a year without much thought.

    I also can’t help but feel a bit sad. It’s been fun ‘making do’ for so long and finding (and discussing at length!) workarounds for all the limitations. I have a feeling it’s never gonna be the same again after this. It’s been great living through the golden age of iOS music making with you lot 🥹

    Still, can’t wait to see what this beast is capable of.

    If it blows away all prior known methods and limitations none of us will look back fondly on the early days. ;)

  • This guitar interface is different from prior iterations. No chord picker for strumming. Looks like individual note player…

  • Don’t forget: MPE compatible!

    https://support.apple.com/en-gb/guide/logicpro/lgcp8f599497/mac#:~:text=MPE (MIDI%20Polyphonic%20Expression)%20is,pitch%2C%20pressure%2C%20and%20volume.

  • @NeuM said:
    This guitar interface is different from prior iterations. No chord picker for strumming. Looks like individual note player…

    So far we have 'blurry' zoomed screenshot crops to go by...
    I'm quite sure chord-strips etc. will be there (the 3 buttons to the right may toggle views etc. etc.).

    We'll get to know more as time goes by. 23rd is not so far away like what, 2 weeks...

  • @NeuM said:

    @monz0id said:
    A few mutterings about Logic on desktops going to subscriptions, on the Macrumors forum.

    That would be the one thing that would stop me getting the iOS version, and a new iPad to run it.

    That’s not going to happen. Pretty sure it’s not… BUT if they do go the route of Adobe and offer a subscription for desktop for a brand new version of the software, I bet they’ll have a very compelling reason to do it. For example, if they included in the ‘rental’ price access to thousands of new instruments not available on the iOS version? Or access to A.I. mastering services?

    Dunno, but I’m guessing there’s the potential to get some cash from it - after all, it’s had free updates for over 10 years, and a ‘package’ with the iOS version and new features could give them an excuse. Or a new, paid v11?

    Really hope not though, because I want to be excited about this, and it gives me a reason to upgrade my iPad…

  • I want just to add something important don’t put to the bin your old IPad like Airpar Air 2 as Logic Pro have a remote iOS control you got it on the iOS AppStore very useful.

    BT communication so you can edit on one IPad screen and mix on your main IPad screen and mix on Logic Pro . Also very useful as a remote controler for live launching clips from your old iPad or you iPhone as you prepare other loops on LP on yout main IPad.

    You got all the pro midi features you will dream , and I saw on my Logic Pro some support for MPE but never use it.

    To my opinion the only competitor is Ableton live and if one update or add new features the other do the same lol 😝

  • @Gavinski said:
    Don’t forget: MPE compatible!

    https://support.apple.com/en-gb/guide/logicpro/lgcp8f599497/mac#:~:text=MPE (MIDI%20Polyphonic%20Expression)%20is,pitch%2C%20pressure%2C%20and%20volume.

    I'm going to write to Cherry Audio to exhort them to bring their synths and effects to iOS now.

  • edited May 2023

    @monz0id said:

    @NeuM said:

    @monz0id said:
    A few mutterings about Logic on desktops going to subscriptions, on the Macrumors forum.

    That would be the one thing that would stop me getting the iOS version, and a new iPad to run it.

    That’s not going to happen. Pretty sure it’s not… BUT if they do go the route of Adobe and offer a subscription for desktop for a brand new version of the software, I bet they’ll have a very compelling reason to do it. For example, if they included in the ‘rental’ price access to thousands of new instruments not available on the iOS version? Or access to A.I. mastering services?

    Dunno, but I’m guessing there’s the potential to get some cash from it - after all, it’s had free updates for over 10 years, and a ‘package’ with the iOS version and new features could give them an excuse. Or a new, paid v11?

    Really hope not though, because I want to be excited about this, and it gives me a reason to upgrade my iPad…

    I have more than a month left on my free desktop trial of the software and I'm ready for whatever they announce for desktop next. I've been incredibly productive with Logic Pro so far, testing it all. And it is a far, far more usable software today than what I tried out and rejected about a decade ago.

  • @NeuM said:

    @monz0id said:

    @NeuM said:

    @monz0id said:
    A few mutterings about Logic on desktops going to subscriptions, on the Macrumors forum.

    That would be the one thing that would stop me getting the iOS version, and a new iPad to run it.

    That’s not going to happen. Pretty sure it’s not… BUT if they do go the route of Adobe and offer a subscription for desktop for a brand new version of the software, I bet they’ll have a very compelling reason to do it. For example, if they included in the ‘rental’ price access to thousands of new instruments not available on the iOS version? Or access to A.I. mastering services?

    Dunno, but I’m guessing there’s the potential to get some cash from it - after all, it’s had free updates for over 10 years, and a ‘package’ with the iOS version and new features could give them an excuse. Or a new, paid v11?

    Really hope not though, because I want to be excited about this, and it gives me a reason to upgrade my iPad…

    I have more than a month left on my free desktop trial of the software and I'm ready for whatever they announce for desktop next.

    Ah ok, I’m already in, though to be fair to Apple I have had 12 years worth of free updates!

  • No mention of AUv3 midi apps being supported on ipad version yet, does Logic pro on Mac support AUv3 midi apps?

  • edited May 2023

    The timing of this Logic announcement seems convenient – 
    America's biggest Audio Dev Conference starts Monday in San Francisco. The Who's Who of the audio industry — Apple, Native Instruments, Avid, Soft Tube, Ableton, Arturia...You name it, they attend an ADC event every year.

    So, it's a pretty safe bet that Apple will be spilling more details about Logic at the conference. Luckily, I'll be there. Expect a report of any juicy bits when I get back.

    ALSO I'm sure all audio devs are as stoked as I am to get to pay Apple another $5/month to test our apps on their software. Being a developer is the gift that keeps on giving! 😅

  • @Carnbot said:
    does Logic pro on Mac support AUv3 midi apps?

    Yes it does.

  • edited May 2023

    @Carnbot said:
    No mention of AUv3 midi apps being supported on ipad version yet, does Logic pro on Mac support AUv3 midi apps?

    Yes, it will support all AUv3 plugins. Not all AUv3 iOS apps work on desktop. In fact, few developers have made a serious effort in that area.

  • @pedro said:
    Maybe I’m missing the point, but if you want desktop solutions why not use desktop? Yeah, cool to have LP on iOS, maybe it’s finally the mother of all DAWs on iOS, but you still have to work around the small screen. At least I hope there’s some usability improvements for working with a small screen, like automatic zoom for fiddling with settings, like a blown up overlays once you start moving faders and stuff. Otherwise it will be like using desktop software through a keyhole. I’ll wait till it lands to form a judgement, but this doesn’t get my panties in a bunch.

    It’s reasonably priced imo, if it’s worth it I can totally see myself spending 5 bucks for a monthly experience

    Agreed, this is one time I see a subscription as being reasonable. There is a month free trial before any payment too. I’ve made it a personal policy to always give it at least a few days to check the forum, YouTube, etc… before making a purchasing decision.

    I’m not going crazy over this, but I am excited. I now need a new iPad which I can’t afford, but I do think this could be the major milestone that really ramps things up for the entire iOS creative ecosystem (Developers, users, content creators, and everything around it.) Even if you never use LP it will still likely benefit everyone, even indirectly. We could see more people discover iOS music, more big developers port to iOS, as well as more capabilities, more possibilities, in the apps/devices. Heck, maybe the audio Jack comes back, lol.

    Its been discussed before but the ipad or iDevices provide many benefits over desktop, the affordability (both hardware and software), the mobility, the physical size, the touchscreen, the portability, the general learning curve/intuitiveness, etc…

  • @Poppadocrock said:

    @pedro said:
    Maybe I’m missing the point, but if you want desktop solutions why not use desktop? Yeah, cool to have LP on iOS, maybe it’s finally the mother of all DAWs on iOS, but you still have to work around the small screen. At least I hope there’s some usability improvements for working with a small screen, like automatic zoom for fiddling with settings, like a blown up overlays once you start moving faders and stuff. Otherwise it will be like using desktop software through a keyhole. I’ll wait till it lands to form a judgement, but this doesn’t get my panties in a bunch.

    It’s reasonably priced imo, if it’s worth it I can totally see myself spending 5 bucks for a monthly experience

    Agreed, this is one time I see a subscription as being reasonable. There is a month free trial before any payment too. I’ve made it a personal policy to always give it at least a few days to check the forum, YouTube, etc… before making a purchasing decision.

    I’m not going crazy over this, but I am excited. I now need a new iPad which I can’t afford, but I do think this could be the major milestone that really ramps things up for the entire iOS creative ecosystem (Developers, users, content creators, and everything around it.) Even if you never use LP it will still likely benefit everyone, even indirectly. We could see more people discover iOS music, more big developers port to iOS, as well as more capabilities, more possibilities, in the apps/devices. Heck, maybe the audio Jack comes back, lol.

    Its been discussed before but the ipad or iDevices provide many benefits over desktop, the affordability (both hardware and software), the mobility, the physical size, the touchscreen, the portability, the general learning curve/intuitiveness, etc…

    Check here first: https://www.apple.com/shop/refurbished/ipad

  • @MobileMusicPro said:

    Logic literally has everything we've been waiting steinberg to implement into Cubasis for YEARS.

    Now we have to think about how to migrate the most important CUBASIS projects to Logic Pro. Maybe Apple even offers a migration tool.

    Or VORTEX will make a great migration video soon...

  • @Carnbot said:
    No mention of AUv3 midi apps being supported on ipad version yet, does Logic pro on Mac support AUv3 midi apps?

    I got a Silicon M1 MacBook so there are still some problems with some apps this not Apple but dev that don’t want do proper updates. It was at the beginning. I don’t know of what apps you think about , all Moog work well on midi and I use midi controlers on Logic Pro. That a problem with Mac Silicon nothing to do with Logic Pro itself .

    But other users have different experiences.

  • edited May 2023

    @Iskander said:

    Maybe Apple even offers a migration tool

    Haha, funny

  • Will it work on my Ipad pro 2nd gen ?

  • I guess this announcement also serves notice to developers who've been copying individual parts of Logic Pro to bring to iOS. They'll have to come up with something new now?

  • If we can keep Logic Pro desktop on our Macs (despite not being able to update), then I am also in . Already conceded to @NeuM hes right about $5, over 10 years it’s about $500 or what a pro desktop daw is so if it is cross grade then even better. I dont care about the $50 a month too much anymore.

    I however am thinking like Berlin and Pedro now, id love to see it first , and soon, very soon its happening

    I have to admit Neum totally changed my mind about it, and again, I think his point about swam is so fitting so I’m glad he brought that up

  • @cuscolima said:
    Will it work on my Ipad pro 2nd gen ?

    If the chip is A12 and over yes ios16

  • @BerlinFx said:

    @Carnbot said:
    No mention of AUv3 midi apps being supported on ipad version yet, does Logic pro on Mac support AUv3 midi apps?

    I got a Silicon M1 MacBook so there are still some problems with some apps this not Apple but dev that don’t want do proper updates. It was at the beginning. I don’t know of what apps you think about , all Moog work well on midi and I use midi controlers on Logic Pro. That a problem with Mac Silicon nothing to do with Logic Pro itself .

    But other users have different experiences.

    I'm referring to AUv3 midi FX and midi instruments eg sequencers etc, not the audio AUv3 apps. Just curious if that is being supported on release that's all.

  • heshes
    edited May 2023

    @gregsmith said:
    . . . It’s been fun ‘making do’ for so long and finding (and discussing at length!) workarounds for all the limitations. I have a feeling it’s never gonna be the same again after this. It’s been great living through the golden age of iOS music making with you lot 🥹

    Ha. :smiley: I'm with you. I'm also curious to see just how much Logic Pro disrupts things on iOS.

    There is a distinct kind of pleasure I get from using (and buying!) a lovingly crafted plugin with beautiful (or even just idiosynratic) UI made by a solo developer or small company I have warm fuzzies for. I think I would continue happily choosing to use many iOS plugins even if I was using Logic Pro and there was some objectively superior built-in plugin that covered the same ground. Built-ins are boring.

  • @Carnbot said:

    I'm referring to AUv3 midi FX and midi instruments eg sequencers etc, not the audio AUv3 apps. Just curious if that is being supported on release that's all.

    Both Mela 3 & 4 work perfectly as AUv3 Midi Plug-Ins on my Intel Mac Mini running Logic Pro.
    Zoe works nicely as well.

  • @cuscolima said:
    Will it work on my Ipad pro 2nd gen ?

    No, you need A12 and up, so gen 3 is the oldest Pro model that is supported.

  • edited May 2023

    The opposition to subscription model seems to be rather visceral.

    £50 a year is nothing if you’re really using and benefitting from software. Be it commercially or as a hobby. I only accept this as a valid moaning point if coming from a geographically disadvantageous position.

    Otherwise, I really think it’s a bargain and shows lack of understanding of how much work, creatively and otherwise, it is to piece together such a monster of software.

  • @richardyot said:

    @cuscolima said:
    Will it work on my Ipad pro 2nd gen ?

    No, you need A12 and up, so gen 3 is the oldest Pro model that is supported.

    For those interested, here’s a link to a 9to5 Mac list of iPads and their chips:

    https://9to5mac.com/2022/07/29/ipad-chip-list/

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