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Serious question: I am particularly old school. Cubasis does everything I need it to. I’m not inclined to change as I’m a loyal user. But it seems to be a very big deal. Please tell me what it offers someone like me?
Thanks for sharing, looks great. More and more excited by the day.
Anything new from this guy - everything already known…
Mainly proper routing and bussing, send channels, track grouping*, arrangement features like song sections you can move around, Ableton-style looping, latency compensation, audio editing, and excellent stock plugins and instruments.
It should be a way better DAW than Cubasis, but of course we need to see it in the flesh before making any kind of final judgement.
Just to add: Cubasis is in many ways a better DAW than Auria Pro these days, especially with the multi-core support, but the lack of decent bussing and routing is what has kept me using Auria despite this.
For me personally I need busses, groups, and send channels to be able to mix efficiently, and Auria is the only DAW that got this right on iOS, until now (hopefully).
(Well OK, NS2 does this even better than Auria, but without audio channels).
Although I believe for sure that Logic Pro for iPad will be an full fledge copy of the desktop LPX, I would rase the question to others here that has opposite believe in LPX for iPad - what functionalities will be left of on the iPad?
Something else that may be left out on iPad?
Good questions but I have a feeling we'll get more sneak-peaks during next week.
I'm quite sure that the basic midi-effects are already there, arpeggiator, note-repeater etc. why?
Many of the 'instruments' in GarageBand are already 'track stacks' that utilize these effects.
Audio, Midi & Automation editing is something I will check in-depth when the trial drops on the 30th...
...same goes for integration with the Files.app.
Can I drag any sample to the Drum Machine Designer?
Can I drag out an audio or midi-region to Files.app and have it exported as Midi or bounced to Audio?
Can I add shortcuts (ie. Folder Aliases) to the 'Browser' ? (Maybe Logic has an 'embedded' on-device file browser?).
So yeah, a lot of 'un-aswered' questions but I'm prepared to be positively surprised and I feel that the positives will outweigh the negatives. That is what my gut tells me for now.
I'm also looking forward to the Logic 10.7.8 update for Mac which is needed for compatibility.
Cheers!
I’m also very curious how Logic 10.8 or 11 will look like on the Mac. And if they’ll introduce subscription plans as well 🫣
„I'm also looking forward to the Logic 10.7.8 update for Mac which is needed for compatibility.“
it`s 23.May. 😉
Despite it being the feature I am most interested in, I worry that the Score Editor may not find its way over at first. If they were running out of time to ship LP for iPad then I could see that being delayed in preference for a feature that would be more generally popular. I do all my music writing in score mode as that is where I feel most comfortable, but I can believe that I am likely to be an outlier and Apple may feel some other piece of functionality would appeal to a wider audience if they were being forced to make a choice to get it out of the door on time.
will Logic Flex Pitch make apps like vocal tone studio obsolete ?
What iOS update does it begin with?
I don’t believe that Apple has been short of time on the Logic Pro for iPad developing project - this must be an ongoing project since Apple rewrite LPX for Mac to Apple Silicon cpu/gpu:s…
I’m pretty sure we will be presented with a stable almost bugfree version of Logic for iPad the 23rd of may, but, what’s missing from LPX for Mac will be interesting to see…
Can u use a lightning to usb connector to charge it?
There are some intricacies of routing that I hope that they have right in this revamped Logic. I can't remember the exact issue off the top of my head but during development of the Flux Mini/Flux Mini 2/Flux Pro I think I had problems with MIDI controlled audio effects on audio tracks - I can't remember if it just didn't work/was impossible or was just extremely unintuitive to do.
My second least favourite DAW to test routing in... The least favourite being Pro Tools which doesn't even have stereo sidechains! The best host for testing purposes for me will always be AUM as you can do just about everything.
David
Yes, but that's not really the issue: the 1st gen Pencil will not work with newer iPads, only the gen 2 is recognised.
Ah, so what NeuM said was just completely wrong, OK, cheers!
Compatability guide from Apple:
https://support.apple.com/en-gb/HT211029
Curious as well. I’m holding out on buying that until I see what Logic has to offer.
Music Putty will likely suffer much more, having an annual sub of about 30 bucks, ie not much less than the subscription for logic. I wonder if they'll switch to a one off purchase model. The idea that many people would be willing to pay a subscription for a pitch correction app always struck me as deeply misguided.
Me too as I bought it also for the free upgrade not to pay a subscription to run LP on MacOS
Having had a few days to absorb this news, I've decided that for me at least this is exciting news. I write and record in a traditional linear way. Half my time currently is spent away from my desktop studio, and during those periods I rely on my iPad and principally Cubasis. Try as I might I cannot get to a standard I'm happy with using my iPad alone and I end up redoing everything when I'm back in my studio. From what I've read, I think Logic Pro on the iPad will mean I can make better sounding music compared to where I am with the iPad right now. If that's the case, then that's the bottom line for me.
From what I've seen you write regarding your usual work flow, I don't think Logic will offer you much more than Cubasis. If I recall correctly, you don't generally do much to "doctor up" your tracks after recording a couple of layers...correct me if I'm wrong. But the people who do more electronic style, where there is heavy use of midi, automation, sample manipulation, audio effects and a lot of tracks to mix will likely find more use for a bigger DAW like Logic.
Do you play with a metronome when you record? Because Cubasis doesn't allow for tempo changes within a song, and Logic likely will; so that's a possible improvement. If you record more organically without a metronome, then I guess that wouldn't matter.
Edit: There are also the software instruments that will come with Logic, if that is of any interest. I haven't owned Logic since version 9, so I'm not sure how good the quality is, but nothing from when I previously owned it compared with Pianoteq or SWAM instruments.
I’m pretty sure that Logic Pro 11 on Mac will go subscription too (together with Final Cut Pro)…
Hold in mind that version 10 of LPX has going on for ten years, and, with free updates since summer of 2013…
Regarding functionalities, what are version 10.x of LPX missing that can be implemented in the new version 11?
As a user of Logic Pro I was curious to do a check on the number of updates and bug fixes since 2022, incredible number of updates and new implementation and bugs fixes. 10,x.1 10.2 etc…. My LP X is even not up to date still running on Monterey OS , I don’t know if I need yet toupdate Os from Monterey to Ventura on my Silicon MacBook M1 ?
I am a bit lost with all that ?
I’ve owned Logic Pro forever. Over the past couple of years, however, I’ve used an iPad more or less exclusively and rarely cracked open the MacBook. In anticipation of it coming to the iPad, I spent some time this morning revisiting Logic on the Mac and man, is it wonderful. Alchemy and Sculpture, the full Drummer, dozens of outstanding effects…
I am so looking forward to using all these again plus whatever surprises await us on the 23rd.
I found out how to sidechain.
Then I made sidechaining across ipads lol.
I guess it works.
Now with a 3rd ipad though.
It would need some sort of ghost sidechaining.
Kind of annoying ( not being able to sidechain anything when song is still midi )
but I guess generally sidechaining is for low fq sounds.
A track of mirack or samples. Will likely be a range.
So should be ok not sidechaining ( when designing track )
exact the same here 😉🎶
Im on 16 something with air 3. An ipad 9 on 16 something. Another ipad 9 on the latest 16 whatever. Later the air 3 will be factory reset and will install the latest ios.
You will probably update if you think you will try logic.
Cant remember much about ios 15.
I factory reset mine.
Nothing made since 2019 apart from some lame youtube screen recordings.
I wanted to transfer beatcutter projects but it dosent send across devices with the samples used