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OneShot! By Klevgrand (Released on iOS)

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  • wimwim

    I really hope this gets drag and drop at some point. Making your own kits is a pain. Manageable, but tedious as heck.

  • GoldiblockzGoldiblockz
    edited September 9

    I get this error after importing expansion presets\slots, anyone that’s gotten them have a tip? If I click load on the slot and reselect it everything is peachy, but I'm not about to do that for all the roughly 120 slots just for 8 kits.

  • GavinskiGavinski

    @wim said:
    I really hope this gets drag and drop at some point. Making your own kits is a pain. Manageable, but tedious as heck.

    Definitely request it! Audiomodern did it with Loopmix even tho that is a JUCE port. I know that was difficult but they managed it. Don't know how though. Any guesses? Apparently JUCE does not have drag n drop support.

  • GavinskiGavinski

    @Goldiblockz said:

    I get this error after importing expansion presets\slots, anyone that’s gotten them have a tip? If I click load on the slot and reselect it everything is peachy, but I'm not about to do that for all the roughly 120 slots just for 8 kits.

    Bummer. First off, you should definitely email them. In the meantime tho, might be best to delete the extension packs and reinstall (if even possible?). Otherwise, delete the app entirely and then try to reinstall the packs after downloading

  • bleepbleep

    @Gavinski said:

    @wim said:
    I really hope this gets drag and drop at some point. Making your own kits is a pain. Manageable, but tedious as heck.

    Definitely request it! Audiomodern did it with Loopmix even tho that is a JUCE port. I know that was difficult but they managed it. Don't know how though. Any guesses? Apparently JUCE does not have drag n drop support.

    There seems to be code for doing iOS drag and drop in JUCE apps here:
    https://forum.juce.com/t/drag-and-drop-files-to-juce-component-ios-auv3/42322/22

  • GavinskiGavinski

    @bleep said:

    @Gavinski said:

    @wim said:
    I really hope this gets drag and drop at some point. Making your own kits is a pain. Manageable, but tedious as heck.

    Definitely request it! Audiomodern did it with Loopmix even tho that is a JUCE port. I know that was difficult but they managed it. Don't know how though. Any guesses? Apparently JUCE does not have drag n drop support.

    There seems to be code for doing iOS drag and drop in JUCE apps here:
    https://forum.juce.com/t/drag-and-drop-files-to-juce-component-ios-auv3/42322/22

    Interesting, thanks a lot, I'll pass this on to Klevgrand. Would be great if they can add that

  • wimwim

    Convenience tip: if you’re importing a lot of files to different slots, long press the folder you’re working with in the file picker and add a favorite for it. If you don’t do this, you have to navigate through the whole damn tree every time to get to each sample. You can delete the favorite when done assembling the kit.

  • FordTimeLordFordTimeLord

    @wim said:
    Convenience tip: if you’re importing a lot of files to different slots, long press the folder you’re working with in the file picker and add a favorite for it. If you don’t do this, you have to navigate through the whole damn tree every time to get to each sample. You can delete the favorite when done assembling the kit.

    Strokes used to have this problem with importing stuff. He never implemented drag and drop but he did manage to get it to remember the last folder you were in when importing samples. It would be great if Klevegrand could at least get that behaviour implemented. As far as I know Strokes is also a Juce port so it should be possible.

  • wimwim
    edited September 9

    @FordTimeLord said:

    @wim said:
    Convenience tip: if you’re importing a lot of files to different slots, long press the folder you’re working with in the file picker and add a favorite for it. If you don’t do this, you have to navigate through the whole damn tree every time to get to each sample. You can delete the favorite when done assembling the kit.

    Strokes used to have this problem with importing stuff. He never implemented drag and drop but he did manage to get it to remember the last folder you were in when importing samples. It would be great if Klevegrand could at least get that behaviour implemented. As far as I know Strokes is also a Juce port so it should be possible.

    Another developer I highly respect recently told me it wasn't possible. I didn't argue the point, but I'm positive I have had apps that do remember the last folder. Anyway, Drag and Drop bypasses that issue.

  • PxlhgPxlhg
    edited September 9

    @wim said:
    I really hope this gets drag and drop at some point. Making your own kits is a pain. Manageable, but tedious as heck.

    Yeah that would be great.
    I was thinking about what level of sharing this could possibly do, down to slot level I mean. That's pretty cool if it works. You wanna share something with someone low on disk space, this is a neat trick.. again, if it works. Gonna try..

    Edit: Tried Drag n Drop on the Mac. Doesn't work there either, well at least not with Reason as host.

  • PxlhgPxlhg
    edited September 9

    ...and remember folks: it doesn't have to be a drum sample you load in a new slot, using envelopes and effects to total mischief is doable ....😳🙃😃

  • sigma79sigma79

    You can drag and drop ( if you obviously sample oneshot app )

    Not the point of app though.

    My Euclidean oneshot, ting ( without many samples loaded and without faderfox controllers )

    And the point I were making.

    Its not oneshots fault.

    It makes drums and either or decision.

    I wouldnt even really use drambo samplers ( in the same template )

    The faderfox pc12 is 12 tracks.

    Theres only 15 mappable pads in Drambo.

    A solution might be an m4 ipad just for drums ( along with 2 x ipad 9 )

    So I can keep this setup and just use an instance of oneshot in same template. With or without a midi drambo, within Drambo ( so there isnt a million tracks ) and not use multiout of oneshot ( for a million more tracks ) And hope the m4 could run at low buffer.

    Or just be sensible and load a different template ( without the electronic drums functionality )

    But maybe favouring just loading the odd acoustic sample to a fac drum ( so not even a drambo zone sampler )

    Just have 12 tracks of mix and match.

    Or if I know I will be making jazz etc.

    Defo load a fingerdrum template.

    Anyway.

    With euclidean to a controller in front of me but also a cool way of controlling 8 swams ( trumpets, saxes etc )

    It would make for a weird genre.

    The sound ( sort of tribal ) but trying to work in saxes etc. Everytime you create a new drum ryhtum via controller.

  • sigma79sigma79

    Does it sound like a music you would try adding sax or trumpets to?

    Probably not

    Will be a challenge because you would be creating all song elements live.

    It would generally sound more like a whacky Star Wars band.

  • sigma79sigma79
    edited September 9

    You can drag and drop ( if you obviously sample oneshot app )

    Not the point of app though.

    My Euclidean oneshot, ting ( without many samples loaded and without faderfox controllers )

    And the point I were making.

    Its not oneshots fault.

    It makes drums and either or decision.

    I wouldnt even really use drambo samplers ( in the same template )

    The faderfox pc12 is 12 tracks.

    Theres only 15 mappable pads in Drambo.

    A solution might be an m4 ipad just for drums ( along with 2 x ipad 9 )

    So I can keep this setup and just use an instance of oneshot in same template. With or without a midi drambo, within Drambo ( so there isnt a million tracks ) and not use multiout of oneshot ( for a million more tracks ) And hope the m4 could run at low buffer.

    Or just be sensible and load a different template ( without the electronic drums functionality )

    But maybe favouring just loading the odd acoustic sample to a fac drum ( so not even a drambo zone sampler )

    Just have 12 tracks of mix and match.

    Or if I know I will be making jazz etc.

    Defo load a fingerdrum template.

    Anyway.

    With euclidean to a controller in front of me but also a cool way of controlling 8 swams ( trumpets, saxes etc )

    It would make for a weird genre.

    The sound ( sort of tribal ) but trying to work in saxes etc. Everytime you create a new drum ryhtum via controller.

    If you check from 6.00.

    Thats how I were going to start the youtube camera vids. When using euclidean to a faderfox and then add other song elements, synths, swams etc.

    Maybe the true definition of live song making using devices ( not that of a real live band )

    Even if it sounds lame.

    People might give it a pass because they will see the drums dialled in and also retweaked.

    Still needs chokes though and does sound kinda tribal.

    My ideal drum machine would be oneshot samples.

    Drambo with more track pads to map perhaps ( than 15 )

    There not be a limit on au instance.

    All this runs on an ipad 9 ( 1024 buffer ) but over 10 Fac, makes FAC be flaky. Its not cpu specs. So then currently makes up 12 tracks euclidean ( faderfox pc12 ) with additional blip boxea )

    Then need a faderfox pc16 lol

    Fac drums have robins, velocity layers.

    Drambo have chokes for tracks ( including when euclidean sequencing )

    Running at 128 buffer.

  • Blipsford_BaubieBlipsford_Baubie
    edited September 9

    @wim said:
    Convenience tip: if you’re importing a lot of files to different slots, long press the folder you’re working with in the file picker and add a favorite for it. If you don’t do this, you have to navigate through the whole damn tree every time to get to each sample. You can delete the favorite when done assembling the kit.

    I don’t have Oneshot, but this is still very useful to know for my other stuff that don’t remember which tree branch I just extracted maple syrup from. I hope this is in the Apps Tips and Tricks section, which I keep forgetting we have, but I’m also afraid to start reading at 20,600 comments. Thank you.

  • tahichetahiche

    Question about importing samples for custom kits…
    Are the samples copied to the OneShot sandbox file thingy or are they just referenced from the original location?.

  • wimwim

    @tahiche said:
    Question about importing samples for custom kits…
    Are the samples copied to the OneShot sandbox file thingy or are they just referenced from the original location?.

    A quick test would be to import something, then delete the original file.

  • PapaBPoppinPapaBPoppin
    edited September 10

    @Blipsford_Baubie said:

    @wim said:
    Convenience tip: if you’re importing a lot of files to different slots, long press the folder you’re working with in the file picker and add a favorite for it. If you don’t do this, you have to navigate through the whole damn tree every time to get to each sample. You can delete the favorite when done assembling the kit.

    I don’t have Oneshot, but this is still very useful to know for my other stuff that don’t remember which tree branch I just extracted maple syrup from. I hope this is in the Apps Tips and Tricks section, which I keep forgetting we have, but I’m also afraid to start reading at 20,600 comments. Thank you.

    Hah yeah! I hadn't thought of doing this and just had a montage of memories of running thru the same tree repeatedly (I've developed macro fingers from some loopy canvasses ive set up. This tip wouldn't help there, but the developed skill is undeniable xD)

    Yup, this is added to my toolbox fur suuuuuuure

  • tahichetahiche

    I’m finding it impossible to reorder slots, in the manual it says something like “drag from the color dot and drop between 2 slots”. Which works for slots on the same lane/row. If you try to drop the dot on a row above/below you can’t because it just scrolls.
    I’m starting from one of the presets and changing the slot sounds. For some reason it sent my BD Kick to the end… These little things seem like not a big deal but they really are because you end up with an unmageanable mess.

  • wimwim

    @tahiche said:
    I’m finding it impossible to reorder slots, in the manual it says something like “drag from the color dot and drop between 2 slots”. Which works for slots on the same lane/row. If you try to drop the dot on a row above/below you can’t because it just scrolls.

    I hadn't noticed that yet. You're right. I'm going to write klevgr 'cause that one is critical.

  • AudioGusAudioGus
    edited September 10

    @Gavinski said:

    @wim said:

    @Gavinski said:
    Yes, I kind of wish it just had the regular old multi-out where multi-out 1 would play Slot 1, multi-out 2 would play Slot 2, etc.

    Ugh. I hate it when apps are like that. I don't want to have to set up a host output for every. single. hit. I want to have the flexibility to have everything going to a default output then pick and choose which slots I decide to send to additional outputs. And I want to be able to send more than one slot to each output.

    As you always say, I guess the devs can’t satisfy everyone, true. But, as pointed out, with the current system in oneshot, when u set up multi out and change preset, all your multi-out settings are lost (I’m talking about switching between factory presets, obvs)

    Ahh crap, I was envisioning piping Funk Drummer midi into Oneshot and then flipping through it's presets. Guess it is a skipper for me.

  • sigma79sigma79
    edited September 10

    I copied the samples to my ipad and just sequenced via fac drum.

    You think its worth buying the jazz kit soon,

    If just triggering in Euclidean mess abouts ?

    So not via oneshot.

    Will there be a better sound quality than usual, without robins or even any velocity ( let alone velocity layers )

    Maybe it would be hard to comment.

    Would the samples sound better than the usual.

    If just auditioned via sample crate ?

  • sigma79sigma79

    Euclidean oneshot, slammer, ting, starting to setup/make kits.

    Will jazz pack be worth it, sound wise vs any other samples.

  • PapaBPoppinPapaBPoppin

    @AudioGus said:

    @Gavinski said:

    @wim said:

    @Gavinski said:
    Yes, I kind of wish it just had the regular old multi-out where multi-out 1 would play Slot 1, multi-out 2 would play Slot 2, etc.

    Ugh. I hate it when apps are like that. I don't want to have to set up a host output for every. single. hit. I want to have the flexibility to have everything going to a default output then pick and choose which slots I decide to send to additional outputs. And I want to be able to send more than one slot to each output.

    As you always say, I guess the devs can’t satisfy everyone, true. But, as pointed out, with the current system in oneshot, when u set up multi out and change preset, all your multi-out settings are lost (I’m talking about switching between factory presets, obvs)

    Ahh crap, I was envisioning piping Funk Drummer midi into Oneshot and then flipping through it's presets. Guess it is a skipper for me.

    I haven't dove (dived? Diven?) dipped my toes into more than playing presets, but if it's only effecting factory presets, couldn't a workaround (until fixed) be simply resaving the preset as a user preset?

  • wimwim

    @AudioGus said:

    @Gavinski said:

    @wim said:

    @Gavinski said:
    Yes, I kind of wish it just had the regular old multi-out where multi-out 1 would play Slot 1, multi-out 2 would play Slot 2, etc.

    Ugh. I hate it when apps are like that. I don't want to have to set up a host output for every. single. hit. I want to have the flexibility to have everything going to a default output then pick and choose which slots I decide to send to additional outputs. And I want to be able to send more than one slot to each output.

    As you always say, I guess the devs can’t satisfy everyone, true. But, as pointed out, with the current system in oneshot, when u set up multi out and change preset, all your multi-out settings are lost (I’m talking about switching between factory presets, obvs)

    Ahh crap, I was envisioning piping Funk Drummer midi into Oneshot and then flipping through it's presets. Guess it is a skipper for me.

    I don't think I understand the problem for that use case? It's about multi outputs. For just flipping through presets does one need multi outputs?

  • AudioGusAudioGus

    @wim said:

    @AudioGus said:

    @Gavinski said:

    @wim said:

    @Gavinski said:
    Yes, I kind of wish it just had the regular old multi-out where multi-out 1 would play Slot 1, multi-out 2 would play Slot 2, etc.

    Ugh. I hate it when apps are like that. I don't want to have to set up a host output for every. single. hit. I want to have the flexibility to have everything going to a default output then pick and choose which slots I decide to send to additional outputs. And I want to be able to send more than one slot to each output.

    As you always say, I guess the devs can’t satisfy everyone, true. But, as pointed out, with the current system in oneshot, when u set up multi out and change preset, all your multi-out settings are lost (I’m talking about switching between factory presets, obvs)

    Ahh crap, I was envisioning piping Funk Drummer midi into Oneshot and then flipping through it's presets. Guess it is a skipper for me.

    I don't think I understand the problem for that use case? It's about multi outputs. For just flipping through presets does one need multi outputs?

    Sorry, I should have said "Ahh crap, I was envisioning piping Funk Drummer midi into Oneshot and then flipping through it's presets and multitrack recording via multiple outputs. Guess it is a skipper for me."

  • wimwim
    edited September 11

    @tahiche said:
    I’m finding it impossible to reorder slots, in the manual it says something like “drag from the color dot and drop between 2 slots”. Which works for slots on the same lane/row. If you try to drop the dot on a row above/below you can’t because it just scrolls.
    I’m starting from one of the presets and changing the slot sounds. For some reason it sent my BD Kick to the end… These little things seem like not a big deal but they really are because you end up with an unmageanable mess.

    Reported earlier today and they promptly responded...

    Re: OneShot can't move slots to another row.

    Ticket ID #KD12493, sent on 11 September 2024, 09:45:26
    Hi Mike!

    Thank you for reaching out! I'm forwarding your issue to one of our developers so they can take a look!

    Have a fine day,

    Kind regards,
    Tove /Klevgränd

  • gardengarden

    @Goldiblockz said:

    I get this error after importing expansion presets\slots, anyone that’s gotten them have a tip? If I click load on the slot and reselect it everything is peachy, but I'm not about to do that for all the roughly 120 slots just for 8 kits.

    Question about that layout… I take it this is Loopy in standalone mode? What are you using as the sequence driver? The Drambo instance?

  • danbundanbun

    @tahiche said:
    I’m finding it impossible to reorder slots, in the manual it says something like “drag from the color dot and drop between 2 slots”.

    It is long hold, then drag. It works for me and is not scrolling, but it is very fiddly, since you can't position your finger correctly on the new trigger due to the pop-up dot.

  • PxlhgPxlhg
    edited September 11

    @PapaBPoppin said:

    @AudioGus said:

    @Gavinski said:

    @wim said:

    @Gavinski said:
    Yes, I kind of wish it just had the regular old multi-out where multi-out 1 would play Slot 1, multi-out 2 would play Slot 2, etc.

    Ugh. I hate it when apps are like that. I don't want to have to set up a host output for every. single. hit. I want to have the flexibility to have everything going to a default output then pick and choose which slots I decide to send to additional outputs. And I want to be able to send more than one slot to each output.

    As you always say, I guess the devs can’t satisfy everyone, true. But, as pointed out, with the current system in oneshot, when u set up multi out and change preset, all your multi-out settings are lost (I’m talking about switching between factory presets, obvs)

    Ahh crap, I was envisioning piping Funk Drummer midi into Oneshot and then flipping through it's presets. Guess it is a skipper for me.

    I haven't dove (dived? Diven?) dipped my toes into more than playing presets, but if it's only effecting factory presets, couldn't a workaround (until fixed) be simply resaving the preset as a user preset?

    Yeah saving your own presets works but change output/s and re-saving 600+ factory presets is not an option but for the one with plenty of drugs.😂

    Maybe that option for the multi-output should have been on it's own menu, setting up the 24 slots however you want in that regard.

    Edit: I emailed them about: Ableton Link, Background Audio and the Multi-Out issue.

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