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up/down arrows are even there, bottom right corner.. so this really makes no sense, for me bigges design fail in history..
CPU can’t be argument, CPU part of HW makes at best 5-10% of price for entire box..
I see this as nothing else than fail in design division, i guess they wanted to be creative and make something more aligned with traditional grooveboxes - throwing away their unified company approach. And they failed badly, in my opinion.
I have some questions… can you help me?
Will move and an iPad will work together?
I have live 9 so probably move and Ableton live wouldn’t be a good combination. Am I right?
Besides move’s Ableton integration are similarities between the sp404 Mii and move?
Thanks 🙏
Move and Ipad don't work together unless you want to sync both via link (Move is not a controller for note), you can transfer your projects from Move to note via cloud and carry on in note. Note has 8 tracks so you can only transfer 4 tracks to move.
you have to have live 12.1
this review shows the valid issues you raise.
Hi @cam it depends what you're after. So whilst I can connect Move and iPad via USB C, that audio is one way only (Out from Move). So I can record Move's output into AUM for example.
Using Move as an Audio Interface I can connect another sound source into Move and have that output via the USB C to iPad, but not the other way around.
So I cannot sample into Move via USB C. I imagine a good number were hoping for this.
I'm afraid I don't have any experience with the sp404 Mii to compare them.
I should highlight that the MIDI implementation of Move appears to be extremely limited (No MIDI over USB C, USB A only, MIDI can only be either IN or OUT at any one time, so not both together, MIDI OUT is limited to just one of the 4 tracks at a time) so it's not going to replace anyone's MIDI controllers if that was the plan. It's quite clear this was not an intended purpose but it might be easy to assume.
EDIT: I'm having a hard time understanding the MIDI aspect of MOVE atm. Will update this post if things become clearer.
All that being said, I totally got carried away with using it last night. It's a lot of fun, sounds great and as an Ableton Live user, it's integration with the Daw is where I personally see much of it's worth. Very cool to sketch out ideas and have it upload to Ableton within seconds.
A few UI things I would like to have seen a bit different. The buttons most used in combo with the Shift button (Overview & Settings) are the furthest away from that Shift button forcing a two hand operation. If those buttons were on the right and closer the UX would be far far sweeter.
As it is I'm really enjoying diving into Move.
I could imagine the Move would make a nice loop maker to send into my SP404mk2 via usb C. The workflow (for want of a better word) looks nice and quick and I do like the random new tracks. However, I am spoiled by how my iPad works with my SP, so will stick with that until they update the Move with some feature that pushes me to rethink it.
I can see that some people are really going to love the Move. Might become a bit of a cult tool after some really creative types get to using it. The SP is loved by many, same as the Circuits are. Personally I have an SP and a Circuit rhythm that have both become fx boxes in my setup for the most part. The SP is also my audio interface and mini mixer lol. Wonder if the Move has some great secondary power beyond being a neat portable track maker?
Since the device uses an off the shelf CPU and standard SD card, it could be upgraded by Ableton very easily - double the storage, beef up the CPU, for very little extra cost. You can buy a 128gb SD card for a tenner. That would allow more tracks, and maybe a better standard layout with tracks along the top.
Strange choices by their design team. What a killer device this could have been.
Good review that. Interestingly in the comments you can tell how much he loves it, but the 4 track limit is a potential deal breaker. Sounds like with build quality Ableton have nailed it, but layout changes and track limits are hampering his standalone and controller usability.
Be interesting to see how he gets on, if he can accept limitations and keep the device.
I think Move+Loopy Pro could be excellent for looping, and Move+AUM for sampling anything back and forth via USB, although does AUM sync with Link?
AUM does sync with Link. However, Move cannot sample from AUM via USB C if that was your aim?
That was my aim! That's a shame, it would have been a very useful trick.
The only fear I have is that maybe Move kills once and for all the iPad as a music platform for me.
The tight integration with Ableton could be the final nail in the coffin.
We'll see
I kinda want this thing now. Idk why but I’m drawn to it from all the demos and seeing people working with it. Also it made me take out my op-z and man that really is the goat but it is soooooo many double triggers
If the move is Abletons reply to the op-z, I think it’s going to get further software and firmware development (versus TE)
I just sort of wish there was a time signature track/setting ; is everything in 4/4?
why is that a fear? if you don't need ipad that's fine also.
I got mine - I love it…
Edited myself.
Actually comes with Live Intro
Thought it was called Lite (so did Tarekith, heh and he should know better
). 'Intro' then. But yah, I tried installing it a few years ago and it insisted on using my C drive which I currently can't afford to use just for stem exporting.
Was also thinking since Move Manager works on iOS it could have been awesome for exporting stems more or less right into BM3. But yah, likely just more marketing department imposed 'ecosystem' based limitations. Everything sold has to support everything else sold, circle the wagons etc. "But iOS has Note, then users will feel compelled to get Live, then they get Push blah blah" bye bye
@AudioGus There aren't stems as such. When the set is uploaded to cloud and opened in Ableton the tracks are MIDI and loaded with the relevant instrument (DrumRack, Drift, Wavetable etc). Obviously these can be then exported to audio individually but I don't think it's the workflow you're describing.
Trying to work out MIDI capabilities is a bit of a headache. Move is really picky about how you connect your MIDI devices.
Using a MIDI monitor with USB C connected there are 2 ports that show up, Live and User, but I can only seem to get these to pass MIDI when in Live control mode.
Connecting via a dongle is a definite 'nope'.
I've connected the Launchpad Pro via a dongle into USB A slot and it doesn't work. Direct into USB A and it works. The Launchpad pro will play the selected track.
But connecting the iPad via USB A I don't see any ports or way to direct MIDI about.
Actually, Move Manager lets you save an audio file without Live (because it is active while Move hardware is connected) and in the marketing video for Move Manager they say "But because you can also always export your Audio directly from Move Manager, whether you combine Move with other Ableton products is completely up to you." That really does imply stem export from Move Manager (which again, I know is not possible). Who would want just a stereo wav of the set if they want to combine it with other non-Ableton products like they say is possible using only Move Manager?
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@AudioGus Yeah unfortunately it's just the main set mix, not individual stems.
Aside from the few gripes I've listed, I really like the device. I can see them bringing new features to it over time. I'm 99% sure there will be no more than 4 tracks in future. I quite like the way it's set out even if it's a bit back to front from other Ableton products. Diving into Move it is it's own thing and the workflow works nicely for most tasks.
They really shouldn't say that in the video then, quite misleading.
Yeah, unfortunately that line of the script does feel deliberately ambiguous.
edit: deleted misdirected angst
Thank You very much
Ricky's take:..
I think he does really well to cover all the Pros and Cons in just 7 mins and is the closest review I've seen to my own take on Move.
could be me
I still have a Push 2 and have only used it a couple of times .. but yeah, Move looks tasty
[will not buy, no no no]
Started this groove on the Move earlier today and continued to refine it in Note this evening:
Not a big Live user, so this is coming from a slightly different perspective…if this could be integrated via USB audio like in the same way you can integrate the SSL Big Six mixer and send audio back and forth between move and the connected device this would be the ultimate set up. I get the portability factor, but I think they’re missing a big market potential to have a sampler audio interface in one with all that lovely built in controller stuff. I reckon it’s more about selling the cloud thingy in the long run. That seems to be the big pitch in this one. Why would I want to send my files to the cloud and back when then the device I’m sending it to is sitting on the same table top?
So the cloud can mine them for the AI generators 😉
I’ve never been so indecisive about a piece of gear in my life, this is painful!
4 track limitation means more audio/sample based type work on the device, but that’s not a biggie. I’d hoped better audio/MIDI I/O connectivity, but it’s got the basics. MPE would have been nice but the pads it has are apparently very responsive. Good build quality. Weird layout, but workflow still ok. Big fun factor. No Note/iPad hardware control is disappointing.
Basically I’m waiting on vids demonstrating its Live controller capabilities. Inevitably by the time I make a decision, they’ll have sold out!