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The leaks actually helped a bit with this, as everyone had been talking about a potential 4 track limit for a few days based on store descriptions and the images that had appeared online.
If Novation make a new version of the Circuit with class compliant audio+midi built in, the Circuit + iPhone/iPad would be a fantastic setup.
The XioSynth that they made like 100 years ago does that today... MIDI keyboard, built in synth, audio interface all in one and it still works perfectly today. A xiosynth in circuit form would make me bust out my credit card in record time.
TbH if they relaunched a XioSynth in a smaller package I'd be all over that too... Mine is a little bashed about now -- I used to use it for gigs. I plugged my Bass guitar into it to play through an amp sim alongside synths and backing drums. It got a few war wounds.
Exactly the same for me. I'm mostly about samples, with two synths max, and one of those will be bass. On the Push, I'm forced to add a whole bunch of extra tracks so I can play samples melodically, plus tracks for resampling.
With the Move, I can sample directly into drum pads, and I can lazy-chop longer samples (hopefully chopping while resampling too — @tarekith is this possible?). I don't have to worry about recording to audio clips because I can't—I'll save that for after importing to Live or the Push.
The most fun I've had making songs has been on the opz and the Digitakt, but I stopped using both because getting the results out of the box and into Live (or any DAW) was such a pain. The kind of busywork a computer should be doing for me.
Ever since I sold my OP-1 F I've dreamed of a box that had better instruments and FX, p-locks, an op-z-style sequencer, and easy export to Live.
The Move looks like it might be just the ticket. Bonus: It will actually be a better control surface than the Push 3 for me, as it's way more portable and I barely use the screen when connected to my Mac.
The only thing I'm worried about is that the pads are as insensitive as the ones on the Push 2. The Push 3's pads are just fantastic.
There seems to me to be a clear market/budget gap in between this and the push for a another device with MPE / more tracks and power…
Move 2. I can wait….
Or maybe I can’t?
I’m thinking I may stick my MPC One Retro on eBay and pick up the Move…
This should shift some units
Looking forward to sampling from iPad apps to the Move via USB. Maybe even some back-and-forth with Koala.
Pretty sure it doesn’t have USB audio? Or at least Ableton suggest sampling from phone using the line-in.
That and the fact there’s also no DIN or TRS MIDI really put me off this. I suppose it’s targeted at someone who is at least vaguely interested in using Live.
Not sure I understand the question? You can resample to a drum pad, though at the moment slicing is a little underutilized, doable but a bit more steps than other gear with auto slicing like the Digitakt2.
Re: MPE, Move was meant to be an affordable, portable way to sketch ideas on hardware. The MPE pads from Push 3 would have greatly increased the cost beyond what it was intended to be. It’s like asking for heavy piano action on an entry level midi controller, there’s better tools for that if it’s important to you (IE Push 3 in this case).
4 tracks is all we get too, I wouldn’t expect a firmware update to change this. There’s other more exciting features we’ll likely see coming in the future though I’d guess. 😉
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Wondering the same. I will probably hold off until version 1.2 or something anyways. I’d like to see them add a bunch more things before I drop any money.
Mine should be in today. I’ll post my thoughts after getting accustomed to it.
I’m really excited about playing it and using it in my workflow. I think it will be fun and do all the things i want to do with other gear i have.
Yes would love to see a new Circuit with the Tracks and Rhythm merged with usb C class compliant audio and midi.
Yeah. Maybe it’s been overlooked in the specs or is coming in an update, but they currently state “ Sample your environment with Move’s microphone or 3.5 mm audio input”.
Yes, hope removing DIN and TRS midi does not become a thing for future hardware!
It’s Audio out only at present over USB.
If we get polyphonic 16 levels, I’m sold. From what I understand, the drum kits have 16 voices of polyphony, so they could implement some sort of shared polyphony, like the Digitone, and create a really versatile piece of kit.
FWIW the Product Lead for Move is on their Discord channel and taking feedback and chiming in now and then.
Note has really grown up this past year. I think Move will do the same based on it being an “Irish Twin” to Note.
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I think too many people expect everything to be this complete package product.
I totally agree with this assessment. It’s a 400 dollar box. People want it to cure musical cancer 😂 it’s a gateway drug to Ableton live. If you want more, buy a push standalone. It’s amazing! And the 12.1 update for push is really good!!
Looks pretty darn sweet to me.
Practically speaking for music making, it’s the office(studio) essentials in a portable tactile box.
If they had made something with 8 tracks and MPE, they would have lost someone like me who just wants a reliable machine to put in the hours on. The price point gets too close to Push if you add any more to Move.
This 100%
Not standalone - which is the main appeal of Move - still @1200 difference
Sure but the capabilities of a P3S is light years past Move. It’s not close.
More and more i think about it - more dissapointed i am. This is SO MUCH wasted opportunity
.. i really don't understand why they rotated 90degrees their obvious layout from Live Session view used also on all Push devices, where row is scene and columns are tracks .. if they kept this concept, there will be 8 tracks and it would be in align with all their other products (including Note). This makes no sense in their app/hw portfolio.
Absolutely huge fail for UX team. What a pity.
It’s weird, that’s for sure. Add a couple of arrows to scroll up/down and you’ve got 8 levels of scenes in a workflow Ableton users are familiar with.
I guess the cheap processor they’re using is the obstacle to doing this, but they could be losing a lot of sales as a result.
I don’t see how it would compete with a Push with just those two extra functions. It’d be a nice portable music maker and occasional controller for those of us without one, but it’s a million miles from full Push functionality.
Even without MPE and another 100 quid on the price, I’d have snapped one up immediately with 8 tracks, but I want the ability to tweak synths and patches once it’s transferred to desktop. A couple of synths and a bunch of audio blocks is a workaround too far. I’m no power user, but I still need more than four tweakable tracks.
I’m waiting to see some vids where it’s being used as a controller, as that’s still a potential buy for me, but ironically it’s making the Push 3 controller look incredibly good value for money in comparison!