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Just to confirm - those who updated Gadget and tested out the new synth before purchasing iM1 have had issues with missing IAP's? I'm not sure if I want the iM1, so was going to update Gadget and ruminate for a few days first.
I don't think there is a new synth without iM1. When you click on Darwin you get sent to the App Store for iM1.
Ah ok, thanks. Did you get the iM1 @jocphone ? I'm not sure about this one, but too tinkly for me.
Would love to see Roland make the jd800 for ipad
I did get iM1 @monzo . Doesn't have to be tinkly..
How dare you make something modern sounding on a keyboard that is so 90's! Good on you.
Aarrhhh! No portamento!
Hang on. How did you do that then - did you spray external distortion on an electric piano preset or is there a Prodigy section? You're tempting me now...
Sorry @Tritonman don't know what came over me.
You can edit everything, including lots of effects. People calling just a Rompler seem to have missed this.
Was dicking about making my own sound earlier when I noticed each preset can have two fx from a pick of 18(?), so you can have overdrive AND distortion
all the sounds on that snip are Darwin except the later drums that come in half way
Not my cup of death, but v. good example of the fact that the sheer number of choices force multiplied by effects means that you can get a lot down with this bugger.
I know you can save your own versions (or just copies of originals) but I wish there was a mechanism that allowed simple favoriting.
Not sure where mortality comes into it but I do agree with @PhilW and yourself that there is a great deal more sound mangling potential to iM1 than a mere sample playback machine filled with 'chiff' sounds.
As for saving your favourites to one of the libraries, I don't have a problem with it. I have an idea that you can have a different set for each session but I haven't looked into that yet.
So many different comfort levels when it comes to working (or putting my incipient but not much discussed OCD at peace...
Did not mean anything ratty about your quick piece, more thinking of the heavy-ness of it (death metal-reminding for a second there) and how that makes my petals shrink etc.
Nice, do you have access to all the sound banks via Darwin?
Do you have the extra sound banks?
It is tempting, and would definitely make Gadget a more self contained thing....I'm just thinking that for less money I could have Cyclop though...
@monzo Apples and oranges; unfortunately it costs money to buy both....
I think Cyclop is more me, but to have all those sounds in Gadget would be a lovely thing.
It is the little kinks in the workflow that can drive us to distraction. I will most likely tweak sounds that I want keep so would naturally want to re-save them.
Forgive my brusque reply to your comment. I sometimes forget that the dry northern humour isn't always recognised, and I thought that was quite an upbeat little ditty
I think all the single sounds come across @monzo I don't have the extra IAPs yet but I definitely will as they are a bit of a steal.
The way I look at it, is that Gadget is the instrument, so i can layer up as many Darwin's as I want to make some monster sound. There is a lot of depth to iM1. It may not have a wubwub dial but I reckon it will keep me busy making reckless noises for some time.
I can't really speak for Cyclop, it didn't really interest me
For those on the fence, or new to Korg workstation world, it's probably worth mentioning that the iM1 boasts a lot of drums and SFX -- it's not just a melodic synth/sampler. This also adds to its combi/multi potential in terms of layering hits. When you load kit instruments, be sure to explore several octaves up or down, as Korg sometimes fills most of the range with sounds.
Have someone asked this question yet:
Can you use Combi patches från iM1 in Gadgets Darwin?
I'll only see Programs...
Anyone has a clue?
Just programs in Darwin.
That's a pity...
Otherwise, iM1 sounds great in both Program and Combis!
In Gadget, you can have as many tracks as you want with Darwin (iM1) and layer the sounds that way. Not as convenient, but a very flexible way to build sounds.
So I had a go at making a 'unique' patch in iM1 then importing into Gadget. Taking two sounds and combining them into a patch.
Felt like I was fumbling around a bit. The effects in M1 are not the 'normal' Korg ones I'm used to from Gadget. No ring or comb filters or granshifts to mess things up with. They are more 'traditional' effects.
There's some interesting pitch modulation which I didn't fully get to grips with. And it's generally all quite complicated (IMO) if you want to understand what it all does.
I had to restart gadget before my iM1 saved patch appeared in Gadget.
I'm unsure if I'll be doing this a lot to be honest. But we'll see. Think I need to study the manual.
Other than that, there are a lot of sounds - you can't argue with that. How many I'll use in a track I'm not sure. Hopefully for 'real instruments' it really adds it's value. Possibly some usable pads and classic house organ type sounds in there too. We'll see.
It's a shame that the parameter knobs in Gadget don't seem to do much on a lot of patches. It's tricky to get the filter to do much. The two effects are often quite subtle. This means you can't 'make the patch your own' that much. It's a real shame the 'normal' gadget effects (same ones as Marseille) aren't available in Darwin. That might have been quite interesting for subverting some of the bread and butter sounds.
The quality of the sounds do sound great though. Very thick and loud.
@Matt_Fletcher_2000 Yes, it is a little tricky to program at the moment. It's also less than obvious that the little buttons with disable(d) greyed out next to them mean that that portion of the UI/engine is not enabled. I had similar problems with the filter and other settings, where in addition to setting the filter, you have to tweak some other knob to make anything happen. I believe the resonant filter were only added to this version(?) so the resonance does need to be enabled, which is kind of odd.
There is a disconnect between editing sounds and using them in Gadget but at least we do now have that option, even if not everyone uses it. And the quantity of stock sounds adds a lot to gain inspiration from.
I would have liked to see more MIDI automation possibilities but I can't complain when I have just had an M1 with all the expansions dropped in my lap
Thanks @jocphone - maybe I need to enable the resonant filter then? That might explain why it didn't seem to do much.
So is it high pass filter or LPF or something different? I've not really understood so far.
Probably it will just get used when I need to reach for a harp or something. So maybe not every day.
@Matt_Fletcher_2000 that's what I found.
It looks and sounds like a low pass, shame it can't be switched as a sharp high pass on bass can make it really powerful.
Was going "all in" yesterday and using it for every instrument on some play tracks. I tend to use several drum kits at once so it's nice to have a load more on tap. There are also quite a few waveforms/samples to use as the basis for making your own sounds.
Rompler isn't necessarily always used in a pejorative way but with the fact that in the early nighties memory costed an arm and a leg they absolutely had to do wave stitching to keep the price low and the size of the machine small.
I expect most of the folk who criticise this have issues with this as an emulator of real sounds at which by these days standards m1 is absolute pants. If one is after vintage 90's sounds the sounds are absolutely amazing.
@monzo distortion + overdrive on my crappy ukulele sounds da shit but is it evidence of greatness of the uke, the effects or the producer?
Distortion and overdrive are just fx that add to or enhance the amplify of a sound. The little demo was to demonstrate that iM1 could other noises besides "twinkly". Saying that, I look forward to your "Monsters of Uke" album