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No I am not. You were just insisting on interpreting my use of the word 'tracking' as being related to the visual quality component.
Or... it could be a mistake and turn out to be a huge flop, ie. Google “glass”
Fun fact: Google announced the discontinuation of the most recent Google Glass version in mid-March. Of this year, to be clear.
That’s almost a decade of production.
They released it way too early with no real defined market.
I wonder who bought them for 10 years? I live in Austin, Texas which has a LOT of tech and tech workers. I’ve never seen a pair of Google Glass in the wild.
Yeah I think Google are going to release a new AR headset "Iris" soon. So the AR space will get quite competitive which is good.
And unless they engaged in industrial espionage with Apple, it'll probably be underwhelming... again.
To be clear… I DO think they’re cool as HELL. I might even be convinced to buy a pair (if I won the lotto)
- but, my main concern would be that after I finished paying $3500, they’d come out with a way cooler pair that did everything 10 times better and cheaper just a year later.
I’m definitely NOT going to be first in line for these. I’ll wait for at least a couple release cycles before I even consider it at all.
Given that the recent versions have been labeled "Enterprise Editions," my guess is that it’s the same market as the Microsoft HoloLens: high-end industrial and design work, maybe healthcare.
So... you gonna buy one?
I never said I was an early adopter.
I'll take that as a "no"...
Was it ever relevant?
Meh. Call me when they look like these:
And cost £500.
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Even then, meh, I quit wearing my prescription glasses, let everything be blurry. I am waiting for a neural implant something or other.
Sure, but no one has anything like that available at any price.
I think you’ll find if you go to a particular basement in a back alley in the Sprawl, say the right words and push a few stacks of this weeks crypto into the right off-planet blackbank, you can find a struck off Romanian cyber doc who can sort you out with a malenky bit of the old mirrorshades, actually.
one think i see like potentislly positive.. if this breaks Cook's neck and he will be forced to resign after huge fail of this producy
t, hope someone more vissionary with ability to move Apple from swamp of c> @Svetlovska said:
i'll wait for neuralink v.10.0 for full fledge all 5 senses immersion :-D
This.
Ah, in that case, Mr Musk is waiting on line 2:
https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2023/jun/04/elon-musk-neuralink-approved-human-testing-concern?CMP=Share_iOSApp_Other
They do lead the world in some areas and they lag behind in other areas. But in we-know-better, self-aggrandising BS noone comes close (well, with the possible exception of Elon) 👍
But when they're right, they're right.
And that has been more often the case than not.
People are going to lose their shit over this headset like they did for every other new Apple release. Even the iPhone.
But from what I can see this isn’t just about the goggles. It’s a complete Os including new hardware they’ve made.
All that stuff is going to trickle down to products people will most certainly want to buy, even though they’re not in the market for £3.5K ski goggles.
This could be their LaFerrari/P1 moment. The tech will trickle down. And it still costs less in real terms than the original 128K Mac.
It won’t be too long before the phones get displays made with similar tech (which will be another tick in the made by apple box) with less reliance on the likes of Samsung in the future.
The $3500 headset is obviously not going to sell like hot cakes. It will be a long time before we can judge whether the project itself is a failure.
I’m not going to pretend I know better than Tim Apple and tell him what he should have done.
my company has 2 employees. 1 of them is me. So I clearly don’t know how to run a Trillion Dollar company
That makes @jwmmakerofmusic 's watching method the correct one: cut the BS, get the wisdom. 😉
Some of the background history on this is interesting.
It's a genuine risk Apple are taking, which is good, much more like the old Apple than the current one. Silicon Valley collectively need VR to work. Apple will be taking a loss on these headsets, the same way Meta are on theirs, so that the industry can be established before it is snuffed out, the VR industry is currently faltering (the design team wanted to wait for slimmer glasses not a headset, operations team won).
But as this is the pro model, a lower cost consumer model will come, but only if there is software, which is why they are releasing now before it's ready.
They need apps.
Here's the difficult reality the Apple Vision current gen will face: (And I've got quite a lot of VR experience), For work and productivity no one wants to wear a ski mask for hours at a time, all day. For industrial design in factories, yes but at home? Only if I'm welding or using toxic chemicals. But not doing creative work, I don't want anything strapped to my face then. I don't want to watch long films like that either.
Apple are only expecting to sell a million of these but the next gen should be interesting, I hope it works, but it needs to shrink in size. Also Facetime with AI avatars of your face, that's not going to catch on. But then no one uses facetime for work anyway.
Also the battery pack? that's another sign it's not ready. They didn't want it to be in the headset, makes it even heavier and hotter. But it'll be really annoying having that extra thing to think about dangling off. Two hours also isn't long enough. With Quest the battery is in the headset and if you add an external battery pack like Apples then it can last over 5 hours.
Hahaha! 😂 Nah, not even Elon comes close, because at least many people don't care about Elon enough to listen to him. Apple is bigger than Elon and always will be. And @NeuM is correct in that "when they're right, they're right". But yeah, cut the BS out of these WWDC presentations and get to the heart of the matter already.
After I clocked out after 40 minutes, it seems I missed some huge announcement about glasses or AR/VR or something?
Mmm, could be the next Pippin.
Agree on all points.
Also, to my earlier mention of the problems of headaches and vertigo that have plagued VR headset users in the past… I just read an AP article where Apple says these won’t cause nausea and headaches that have been a problem in other recent VR headsets. It doesn’t say how it’s no longer a problem, but evidently it’s still been a problem for some users with other recent headset models.
In the past, I believe the issue was with the cilia in the auditory system, which helps us maintain balance, gets thrown off because what the eyes are seeing in the headset doesn’t match what the cilia senses in the real world. The inconsistency between inputs for balance causes vertigo and nausea.
The close proximity of the small screens that close to the eye used to be a problem too. I can see how that could possibly be resolved with a sophisticated lens system, but I don’t know how they fix the balance issue with the incongruent input from the cilia for balance. The article didn’t say how they addressed this, only that it’s somehow been resolved.
One possibility is that because the primary use case is as an AR device, the user has less disconnect between visual input and vestibular system input.
That’s a good point. I noticed that you can have some of the real environment viewable around the virtual screen you’re viewing within the headset. Or, you can block it all out. I bet you’re right and that’s how they very simply and elegantly solved that problem.
Yeah, while I think those things can be improved by the technology as frame rates, latency and resolution improve. The latency on the Apple headset is very good. But it's not solving the fundamental problem, that VR and AR headsets are by design quite anti-social and we are social creatures. You don't want to share in watching films with someone with a glass bowl over your eyes, you want to touch your partners head, see their real eyes etc.
So I think that they will probably always be better as niche products for specialist applications and solo experiences.
I think the real hurdle is true hologram technology where you don't need headsets and can share the experience properly. But that's still a long way off. That will definitely take off when it's possible as it solves so many problems.