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  • NeuMNeuM
    edited May 2022

    @CRAKROX said:

    @NeuM said:

    @CRAKROX said:

    @NeuM said:

    @SNystrom said:

    That list is truly astounding — and totally disgusting.

    I’ve been registered as “no party affiliation” for decades and after the republican non-response to these past two massacres, I will never again vote for a republican until they come to grips with reality and stop sucking the money-grubbing tit of the NRA.

    I love my country, but despise our spineless politicians.

    Maybe this hasn't been made clear to you, but the right of self-defense for individuals from tyrannical government is why the Second Amendment exists. And it isn't a right that was "given" to people. It is an inalienable right, backed up by our Constitution. It isn't something which exists so it can defend the ability of people to hunt deer or scare off thieves from the back porch with a shotgun blast aimed into the air (that last one is something the inept clown currently occupying the White House actually said).

    Would you have politicians confiscate the hundreds of millions of arms in the US? Good luck with that.

    Do you really believe that if it came down to the wire and a group of US citizens attempted to oppose the US government with whatever firearms they posses that they would last longer than 5 minutes considering the US government could mobilise one of the biggest and best equipped militaries in the world against them ?

    Are you also of the belief that an unarmed mob of rioters almost overthrew the US government on January 6th?

    That’s not answering the question and I don’t see the relevance but please feel free to answer one and explain the other…

    You just made a bad argument. Face it. Those on the Left would like all of America to believe an unarmed mob almost overthrew the government on January 6th. You just said that couldn’t happen. Well, which is it?

  • AudioGusAudioGus

    @NeuM said:

    @AudioGus said:

    @purpan2 said:
    As a teacher, can I just say that I personally consider the idea of routinely arming teachers to be completely unacceptable, even as a politically motivated gesture. It’s particularly insensitive this week.

    Arming teachers sounds like arming every teller at the bank. A bit heavy handed.

    Why shouldn’t tellers be armed and trained? I’ll bet bank robberies would completely disappear if this was the case.

    I suppose there is an argument for every human having a gun issued to them at a certain age.

  • CRAKROXCRAKROX

    @NeuM said:

    @AudioGus said:

    @purpan2 said:
    As a teacher, can I just say that I personally consider the idea of routinely arming teachers to be completely unacceptable, even as a politically motivated gesture. It’s particularly insensitive this week.

    Arming teachers sounds like arming every teller at the bank. A bit heavy handed.

    Why shouldn’t tellers be armed and trained? I’ll bet bank robberies would completely disappear if this was the case.

    Your logic is flawed at best if the answer to every situation that is made dangerous by guns is to add more guns when simply removing than would solve 99% of the problem.

    Yes I imagine bank robberies would decrease although not altogether and those who chose not to rob banks would just move to a softer target, let’s say McDonalds, do you now advocate arming every member of their serving staff ?

  • GrandbearGrandbear

    Arming teachers? The fucking nerve, unbelievable. I guess this just makes clear how the logic behind this mess works.

  • NeuMNeuM
    edited May 2022

    @AudioGus said:

    @NeuM said:

    @AudioGus said:

    @purpan2 said:
    As a teacher, can I just say that I personally consider the idea of routinely arming teachers to be completely unacceptable, even as a politically motivated gesture. It’s particularly insensitive this week.

    Arming teachers sounds like arming every teller at the bank. A bit heavy handed.

    Why shouldn’t tellers be armed and trained? I’ll bet bank robberies would completely disappear if this was the case.

    I suppose there is an argument for every human having a gun issued to them at a certain age.

    That’s not an argument anyone is making anywhere. Not even Switzerland does that.

  • AudioGusAudioGus

    @CRAKROX said:

    @NeuM said:

    @AudioGus said:

    @purpan2 said:
    As a teacher, can I just say that I personally consider the idea of routinely arming teachers to be completely unacceptable, even as a politically motivated gesture. It’s particularly insensitive this week.

    Arming teachers sounds like arming every teller at the bank. A bit heavy handed.

    Why shouldn’t tellers be armed and trained? I’ll bet bank robberies would completely disappear if this was the case.

    Your logic is flawed at best if the answer to every situation that is made dangerous by guns is to add more guns when simply removing than would solve 99% of the problem.

    The 'simply' part is not so simple apparently.

  • NeuMNeuM
    edited May 2022

    @CRAKROX said:

    @NeuM said:

    @AudioGus said:

    @purpan2 said:
    As a teacher, can I just say that I personally consider the idea of routinely arming teachers to be completely unacceptable, even as a politically motivated gesture. It’s particularly insensitive this week.

    Arming teachers sounds like arming every teller at the bank. A bit heavy handed.

    Why shouldn’t tellers be armed and trained? I’ll bet bank robberies would completely disappear if this was the case.

    Your logic is flawed at best if the answer to every situation that is made dangerous by guns is to add more guns when simply removing than would solve 99% of the problem.

    Yes I imagine bank robberies would decrease although not altogether and those who chose not to rob banks would just move to a softer target, let’s say McDonalds, do you now advocate arming every member of their serving staff ?

    Now you’re just opposing me to oppose me. That’s just being a reactionary. Most small businesses have arms for defense in retail locations. Come back with a comment that is helpful instead.

  • NeuMNeuM

    @Grandbear said:
    Arming teachers? The fucking nerve, unbelievable. I guess this just makes clear how the logic behind this mess works.

    Right. Why should teachers have the ability to save their own lives. The nerve!

  • AudioGusAudioGus

    @NeuM said:

    @AudioGus said:

    @NeuM said:

    @AudioGus said:

    @purpan2 said:
    As a teacher, can I just say that I personally consider the idea of routinely arming teachers to be completely unacceptable, even as a politically motivated gesture. It’s particularly insensitive this week.

    Arming teachers sounds like arming every teller at the bank. A bit heavy handed.

    Why shouldn’t tellers be armed and trained? I’ll bet bank robberies would completely disappear if this was the case.

    I suppose there is an argument for every human having a gun issued to them at a certain age.

    That’s not an argument anyone is making anywhere. Not even Switzerland does that.

    @NeuM said:

    @AudioGus said:

    @NeuM said:

    @AudioGus said:

    @purpan2 said:
    As a teacher, can I just say that I personally consider the idea of routinely arming teachers to be completely unacceptable, even as a politically motivated gesture. It’s particularly insensitive this week.

    Arming teachers sounds like arming every teller at the bank. A bit heavy handed.

    Why shouldn’t tellers be armed and trained? I’ll bet bank robberies would completely disappear if this was the case.

    I suppose there is an argument for every human having a gun issued to them at a certain age.

    That’s not an argument anyone is making anywhere. Not even Switzerland does that.

    I don't hear people wanting to completely eliminate bank robberies either. I think that they just factor it in as an operating expense at this point, have insurance etc. (And of course that mindset shouldn't apply to kids / schools.)

  • CRAKROXCRAKROX

    @NeuM said:

    @CRAKROX said:

    @NeuM said:

    @CRAKROX said:

    @NeuM said:

    @SNystrom said:

    That list is truly astounding — and totally disgusting.

    I’ve been registered as “no party affiliation” for decades and after the republican non-response to these past two massacres, I will never again vote for a republican until they come to grips with reality and stop sucking the money-grubbing tit of the NRA.

    I love my country, but despise our spineless politicians.

    Maybe this hasn't been made clear to you, but the right of self-defense for individuals from tyrannical government is why the Second Amendment exists. And it isn't a right that was "given" to people. It is an inalienable right, backed up by our Constitution. It isn't something which exists so it can defend the ability of people to hunt deer or scare off thieves from the back porch with a shotgun blast aimed into the air (that last one is something the inept clown currently occupying the White House actually said).

    Would you have politicians confiscate the hundreds of millions of arms in the US? Good luck with that.

    Do you really believe that if it came down to the wire and a group of US citizens attempted to oppose the US government with whatever firearms they posses that they would last longer than 5 minutes considering the US government could mobilise one of the biggest and best equipped militaries in the world against them ?

    Are you also of the belief that an unarmed mob of rioters almost overthrew the US government on January 6th?

    That’s not answering the question and I don’t see the relevance but please feel free to answer one and explain the other…

    You just made a bad argument. Face it. Those on the Left would like all of America to believe an unarmed mob almost overthrew the government on January 6th. You just said that couldn’t happen. Well, which is it?

    If the “threat” on that day was simply the idiots breaking into the capitol buildings then my argument still stands.

    The problem was their disruption was being used by certain people as a distraction to try and justify dishonestly retaining their grip on government.

    However if today those same people who broke into the buildings did the same thing even if they were armed without the potential back up of their political leader half in and half out of the whitehouse it would be over in 5 minutes.

  • AudioGusAudioGus

    @NeuM said:

    @Grandbear said:
    Arming teachers? The fucking nerve, unbelievable. I guess this just makes clear how the logic behind this mess works.

    Right. Why should teachers have the ability to save their own lives. The nerve!

    Just out of curiosity, I imagine there must be districts where teachers can carry. ?

  • CRAKROXCRAKROX

    @NeuM said:

    @AudioGus said:

    @NeuM said:

    @AudioGus said:

    @purpan2 said:
    As a teacher, can I just say that I personally consider the idea of routinely arming teachers to be completely unacceptable, even as a politically motivated gesture. It’s particularly insensitive this week.

    Arming teachers sounds like arming every teller at the bank. A bit heavy handed.

    Why shouldn’t tellers be armed and trained? I’ll bet bank robberies would completely disappear if this was the case.

    I suppose there is an argument for every human having a gun issued to them at a certain age.

    That’s not an argument anyone is making anywhere. Not even Switzerland does that.

    It’s the end point of your arming teachers/Bank tellers etc logic though.

  • purpan2purpan2

    @NeuM said:

    @Grandbear said:
    Arming teachers? The fucking nerve, unbelievable. I guess this just makes clear how the logic behind this mess works.

    Right. Why should teachers have the ability to save their own lives. The nerve!

    You’re not a teacher. Teachers in your country have just died, by being shot by firearms, which you want everybody to have. Please, have the decency to let this rest for a while.

  • NeuMNeuM

    @AudioGus said:

    @NeuM said:

    @Grandbear said:
    Arming teachers? The fucking nerve, unbelievable. I guess this just makes clear how the logic behind this mess works.

    Right. Why should teachers have the ability to save their own lives. The nerve!

    Just out of curiosity, I imagine there must be districts where teachers can carry. ?

    You know, this information isn’t difficult to find.

    https://townhall.com/tipsheet/katiepavlich/2018/02/26/heres-a-list-of-school-districts-that-already-allow-teachers-to-be-armed-n2454454

  • NeuMNeuM

    @CRAKROX said:

    @NeuM said:

    @CRAKROX said:

    @NeuM said:

    @CRAKROX said:

    @NeuM said:

    @SNystrom said:

    That list is truly astounding — and totally disgusting.

    I’ve been registered as “no party affiliation” for decades and after the republican non-response to these past two massacres, I will never again vote for a republican until they come to grips with reality and stop sucking the money-grubbing tit of the NRA.

    I love my country, but despise our spineless politicians.

    Maybe this hasn't been made clear to you, but the right of self-defense for individuals from tyrannical government is why the Second Amendment exists. And it isn't a right that was "given" to people. It is an inalienable right, backed up by our Constitution. It isn't something which exists so it can defend the ability of people to hunt deer or scare off thieves from the back porch with a shotgun blast aimed into the air (that last one is something the inept clown currently occupying the White House actually said).

    Would you have politicians confiscate the hundreds of millions of arms in the US? Good luck with that.

    Do you really believe that if it came down to the wire and a group of US citizens attempted to oppose the US government with whatever firearms they posses that they would last longer than 5 minutes considering the US government could mobilise one of the biggest and best equipped militaries in the world against them ?

    Are you also of the belief that an unarmed mob of rioters almost overthrew the US government on January 6th?

    That’s not answering the question and I don’t see the relevance but please feel free to answer one and explain the other…

    You just made a bad argument. Face it. Those on the Left would like all of America to believe an unarmed mob almost overthrew the government on January 6th. You just said that couldn’t happen. Well, which is it?

    If the “threat” on that day was simply the idiots breaking into the capitol buildings then my argument still stands.

    The problem was their disruption was being used by certain people as a distraction to try and justify dishonestly retaining their grip on government.

    However if today those same people who broke into the buildings did the same thing even if they were armed without the potential back up of their political leader half in and half out of the whitehouse it would be over in 5 minutes.

    You continue to make a bad argument.

    Democrats have been screaming that the riot on the 6th of January was an “insurrection” and that it was led by Donald Trump. A completely ridiculous argument, but if you believe there was an actual insurrection, then your own statement that a small group of people could not overthrow the government was a poorly conceived one.

  • AudioGusAudioGus

    @NeuM said:

    @AudioGus said:

    @NeuM said:

    @Grandbear said:
    Arming teachers? The fucking nerve, unbelievable. I guess this just makes clear how the logic behind this mess works.

    Right. Why should teachers have the ability to save their own lives. The nerve!

    Just out of curiosity, I imagine there must be districts where teachers can carry. ?

    You know, this information isn’t difficult to find.

    https://townhall.com/tipsheet/katiepavlich/2018/02/26/heres-a-list-of-school-districts-that-already-allow-teachers-to-be-armed-n2454454

    I just like when you find it for me. :)

  • NeuMNeuM
    edited May 2022

    @purpan2 said:

    @NeuM said:

    @Grandbear said:
    Arming teachers? The fucking nerve, unbelievable. I guess this just makes clear how the logic behind this mess works.

    Right. Why should teachers have the ability to save their own lives. The nerve!

    You’re not a teacher. Teachers in your country have just died, by being shot by firearms, which you want everybody to have. Please, have the decency to let this rest for a while.

    I count several teachers among my relatives, so I know exactly what they were dealing with when they were teaching. Stop trying to control what other can and cannot say. It’s a really, really bad habit.

  • lasselulasselu

    I happen to think that the gun laws in the US are far to liberal but...
    Here in Sweden we have very strict gun laws. That has in no way stopped criminals from having guns and shooting people with them. Just saying...

  • NeuMNeuM

    @CRAKROX said:

    @NeuM said:

    @AudioGus said:

    @NeuM said:

    @AudioGus said:

    @purpan2 said:
    As a teacher, can I just say that I personally consider the idea of routinely arming teachers to be completely unacceptable, even as a politically motivated gesture. It’s particularly insensitive this week.

    Arming teachers sounds like arming every teller at the bank. A bit heavy handed.

    Why shouldn’t tellers be armed and trained? I’ll bet bank robberies would completely disappear if this was the case.

    I suppose there is an argument for every human having a gun issued to them at a certain age.

    That’s not an argument anyone is making anywhere. Not even Switzerland does that.

    It’s the end point of your arming teachers/Bank tellers etc logic though.

    No it isn’t.

  • NeuMNeuM

    @AudioGus said:

    @NeuM said:

    @AudioGus said:

    @NeuM said:

    @Grandbear said:
    Arming teachers? The fucking nerve, unbelievable. I guess this just makes clear how the logic behind this mess works.

    Right. Why should teachers have the ability to save their own lives. The nerve!

    Just out of curiosity, I imagine there must be districts where teachers can carry. ?

    You know, this information isn’t difficult to find.

    https://townhall.com/tipsheet/katiepavlich/2018/02/26/heres-a-list-of-school-districts-that-already-allow-teachers-to-be-armed-n2454454

    I just like when you find it for me. :)

    LOL.

  • purpan2purpan2

    @NeuM said:

    @purpan2 said:

    @NeuM said:

    @Grandbear said:
    Arming teachers? The fucking nerve, unbelievable. I guess this just makes clear how the logic behind this mess works.

    Right. Why should teachers have the ability to save their own lives. The nerve!

    You’re not a teacher. Teachers in your country have just died, by being shot by firearms, which you want everybody to have. Please, have the decency to let this rest for a while.

    I count several teachers among my relatives, so I know exactly what they were dealing with when they were teaching. Stop trying to control what other can and cannot say. It’s a really, really bad habit.

    Don’t be daft. I haven’t asked you to stop. I just politely ask you to defer your politics until a later date, out of respect for what happened. It’s obviously your choice.

  • NeuMNeuM

    @lasselu said:
    I happen to think that the gun laws in the US are far to liberal but...
    Here in Sweden we have very strict gun laws. That has in no way stopped criminals from having guns and shooting people with them. Just saying...

    Exactly. A motivated person intent on committing a violent act will always find a way. When there is armed opposition in sufficient numbers, they are stopped.

  • AudioGusAudioGus

    @purpan2 said:

    @NeuM said:

    @Grandbear said:
    Arming teachers? The fucking nerve, unbelievable. I guess this just makes clear how the logic behind this mess works.

    Right. Why should teachers have the ability to save their own lives. The nerve!

    You’re not a teacher. Teachers in your country have just died, by being shot by firearms, which you want everybody to have. Please, have the decency to let this rest for a while.

    I get what you are saying but I think a lot of people feel like it will be happening with such increasing frequency that there would never be a 'decent' time to talk about it. For people who feel that there clearly is a crisis that they believe has a solution telling them 'to let this rest for a while' could just be seen as dismissive of the value of their point of view.

  • NeuMNeuM
    edited May 2022

    @purpan2 said:

    @NeuM said:

    @purpan2 said:

    @NeuM said:

    @Grandbear said:
    Arming teachers? The fucking nerve, unbelievable. I guess this just makes clear how the logic behind this mess works.

    Right. Why should teachers have the ability to save their own lives. The nerve!

    You’re not a teacher. Teachers in your country have just died, by being shot by firearms, which you want everybody to have. Please, have the decency to let this rest for a while.

    I count several teachers among my relatives, so I know exactly what they were dealing with when they were teaching. Stop trying to control what other can and cannot say. It’s a really, really bad habit.

    Don’t be daft. I haven’t asked you to stop. I just politely ask you to defer your politics until a later date, out of respect for what happened. It’s obviously your choice.

    No need for you to lie. What you wrote is right there for anyone to see. And the failure to address difficult questions is why bad things continue to happen.

  • CRAKROXCRAKROX

    @NeuM said:

    @CRAKROX said:

    @NeuM said:

    @CRAKROX said:

    @NeuM said:

    @CRAKROX said:

    @NeuM said:

    @SNystrom said:

    That list is truly astounding — and totally disgusting.

    I’ve been registered as “no party affiliation” for decades and after the republican non-response to these past two massacres, I will never again vote for a republican until they come to grips with reality and stop sucking the money-grubbing tit of the NRA.

    I love my country, but despise our spineless politicians.

    Maybe this hasn't been made clear to you, but the right of self-defense for individuals from tyrannical government is why the Second Amendment exists. And it isn't a right that was "given" to people. It is an inalienable right, backed up by our Constitution. It isn't something which exists so it can defend the ability of people to hunt deer or scare off thieves from the back porch with a shotgun blast aimed into the air (that last one is something the inept clown currently occupying the White House actually said).

    Would you have politicians confiscate the hundreds of millions of arms in the US? Good luck with that.

    Do you really believe that if it came down to the wire and a group of US citizens attempted to oppose the US government with whatever firearms they posses that they would last longer than 5 minutes considering the US government could mobilise one of the biggest and best equipped militaries in the world against them ?

    Are you also of the belief that an unarmed mob of rioters almost overthrew the US government on January 6th?

    That’s not answering the question and I don’t see the relevance but please feel free to answer one and explain the other…

    You just made a bad argument. Face it. Those on the Left would like all of America to believe an unarmed mob almost overthrew the government on January 6th. You just said that couldn’t happen. Well, which is it?

    If the “threat” on that day was simply the idiots breaking into the capitol buildings then my argument still stands.

    The problem was their disruption was being used by certain people as a distraction to try and justify dishonestly retaining their grip on government.

    However if today those same people who broke into the buildings did the same thing even if they were armed without the potential back up of their political leader half in and half out of the whitehouse it would be over in 5 minutes.

    You continue to make a bad argument.

    Democrats have been screaming that the riot on the 6th of January was an “insurrection” and that it was led by Donald Trump. A completely ridiculous argument, but if you believe there was an actual insurrection, then your own statement that a small group of people could not overthrow the government was a poorly conceived one.

    You’re comparing apple and oranges to muddy the water mate, the situations are different as well you know.

  • AlmostAnonymousAlmostAnonymous

    @slicetwo said:
    I'm a middle school teacher. The fact that, at any point, I could get shot AT SCHOOL DEFENDING MY STUDENTS is f*cking ridiculous.

    Both my brother and sister in law are teachers in your area as well. I feel for you because although it's pretty quiet, MontCo is hella pro gun. They're they time that have loaded handguns around the house to protect their middle class possessions with absolutely no training.

  • CRAKROXCRAKROX
    edited May 2022

    @NeuM said:

    @CRAKROX said:

    @NeuM said:

    @AudioGus said:

    @NeuM said:

    @AudioGus said:

    @purpan2 said:
    As a teacher, can I just say that I personally consider the idea of routinely arming teachers to be completely unacceptable, even as a politically motivated gesture. It’s particularly insensitive this week.

    Arming teachers sounds like arming every teller at the bank. A bit heavy handed.

    Why shouldn’t tellers be armed and trained? I’ll bet bank robberies would completely disappear if this was the case.

    I suppose there is an argument for every human having a gun issued to them at a certain age.

    That’s not an argument anyone is making anywhere. Not even Switzerland does that.

    It’s the end point of your arming teachers/Bank tellers etc logic though.

    No it isn’t.

    Yes it is, your logic is to arm teachers and or bank tellers and anyone else in peril, the point is if you make one target too difficult the “bad guys” simply pick a softer one.
    Then by your logic your solution is to arm them for their protection and the cycle starts again.

  • NeuMNeuM

    @CRAKROX said:

    @NeuM said:

    @CRAKROX said:

    @NeuM said:

    @CRAKROX said:

    @NeuM said:

    @CRAKROX said:

    @NeuM said:

    @SNystrom said:

    That list is truly astounding — and totally disgusting.

    I’ve been registered as “no party affiliation” for decades and after the republican non-response to these past two massacres, I will never again vote for a republican until they come to grips with reality and stop sucking the money-grubbing tit of the NRA.

    I love my country, but despise our spineless politicians.

    Maybe this hasn't been made clear to you, but the right of self-defense for individuals from tyrannical government is why the Second Amendment exists. And it isn't a right that was "given" to people. It is an inalienable right, backed up by our Constitution. It isn't something which exists so it can defend the ability of people to hunt deer or scare off thieves from the back porch with a shotgun blast aimed into the air (that last one is something the inept clown currently occupying the White House actually said).

    Would you have politicians confiscate the hundreds of millions of arms in the US? Good luck with that.

    Do you really believe that if it came down to the wire and a group of US citizens attempted to oppose the US government with whatever firearms they posses that they would last longer than 5 minutes considering the US government could mobilise one of the biggest and best equipped militaries in the world against them ?

    Are you also of the belief that an unarmed mob of rioters almost overthrew the US government on January 6th?

    That’s not answering the question and I don’t see the relevance but please feel free to answer one and explain the other…

    You just made a bad argument. Face it. Those on the Left would like all of America to believe an unarmed mob almost overthrew the government on January 6th. You just said that couldn’t happen. Well, which is it?

    If the “threat” on that day was simply the idiots breaking into the capitol buildings then my argument still stands.

    The problem was their disruption was being used by certain people as a distraction to try and justify dishonestly retaining their grip on government.

    However if today those same people who broke into the buildings did the same thing even if they were armed without the potential back up of their political leader half in and half out of the whitehouse it would be over in 5 minutes.

    You continue to make a bad argument.

    Democrats have been screaming that the riot on the 6th of January was an “insurrection” and that it was led by Donald Trump. A completely ridiculous argument, but if you believe there was an actual insurrection, then your own statement that a small group of people could not overthrow the government was a poorly conceived one.

    You’re comparing apple and oranges to muddy the water mate, the situations are different as well you know.

    If you want to make a point, please make it and then we can discuss. Right now, you’re arguing for the sake of arguing.

  • purpan2purpan2

    @NeuM said:

    @purpan2 said:

    @NeuM said:

    @purpan2 said:

    @NeuM said:

    @Grandbear said:
    Arming teachers? The fucking nerve, unbelievable. I guess this just makes clear how the logic behind this mess works.

    Right. Why should teachers have the ability to save their own lives. The nerve!

    You’re not a teacher. Teachers in your country have just died, by being shot by firearms, which you want everybody to have. Please, have the decency to let this rest for a while.

    I count several teachers among my relatives, so I know exactly what they were dealing with when they were teaching. Stop trying to control what other can and cannot say. It’s a really, really bad habit.

    Don’t be daft. I haven’t asked you to stop. I just politely ask you to defer your politics until a later date, out of respect for what happened. It’s obviously your choice.

    No need for you to lie. What you wrote is right there for anyone to see. And the failure to address difficult questions is why bad things continue to happen.

    Calling someone a liar is quite serious, particularly when it’s not true. Evidence, from what I’ve posted? If not, retraction would be polite.

  • NeuMNeuM

    @CRAKROX said:

    @NeuM said:

    @CRAKROX said:

    @NeuM said:

    @AudioGus said:

    @NeuM said:

    @AudioGus said:

    @purpan2 said:
    As a teacher, can I just say that I personally consider the idea of routinely arming teachers to be completely unacceptable, even as a politically motivated gesture. It’s particularly insensitive this week.

    Arming teachers sounds like arming every teller at the bank. A bit heavy handed.

    Why shouldn’t tellers be armed and trained? I’ll bet bank robberies would completely disappear if this was the case.

    I suppose there is an argument for every human having a gun issued to them at a certain age.

    That’s not an argument anyone is making anywhere. Not even Switzerland does that.

    It’s the end point of your arming teachers/Bank tellers etc logic though.

    No it isn’t.

    Yes it is, your logic is to arm teachers and or bank tellers and anyone else in peril, the point is if you make one target too difficult the “bad guys” simply pick a softer one.
    Then by your logic your solution is to arm them for their protection and the cycle starts again.

    Self-defense is an individual right. No one can be forced to do something they don’t want to do, but teachers who are not armed OR AT THE MINIMUM trained in the use of arms, they should not be employed by any public school.

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