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Texas 25th May 2022
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No, that’s what you’re doing pulling politics etc into the mix, my position is clear and I’ve yet to see you answer how you think an armed group of citizens could oppose the U.S. military and win.
You were obviously trying to control what was being discussed and when. You should retract your comment.
The per capita deaths from guns in Sweden is a tiny fraction of the U.S.
Were you the one who said this or not? Do you remember writing this?
“Do you really believe that if it came down to the wire and a group of US citizens attempted to oppose the US government with whatever firearms they posses that they would last longer than 5 minutes considering the US government could mobilise one of the biggest and best equipped militaries in the world against them ?”
Does that go for Bank tellers too ? Gas Station staff, KFC counter staff etc ? By your logic those people should be able to defend themselves and their customers as they are all the type of places that are robbed with guns…
I feel profoundly sorry for you.
Arguing with someone actually from the country in question? Come on now.
I feel badly for the poor families of the victims of a lone lunatic’s actions. They had no way to protect themselves because of bad policies and an absent guard.
From March 2010 to April 2021 in China, to stay on the country in the links you provided:
About 15 knife attacks or 18 if you count those involving weapons like an axe, a cleaver, or the one with multiple attackers with knives, and two where the weapons aren't mentioned. I left out the one or two attacks involving explosives, and one with a hammer. I may be off, but I tried to be careful.
ONe had an estimated 8 killed out of 65 .
7 out of 14 in another one
9 out of 19 in another one
One attack had 9 deaths out of 20 attacked with a meat cleaver.
One, with an undisclosed weapon killed 8 out of 10
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/School_attacks_in_China
None of these even reaches a dozen, but I'm not trying to be pedantic.
Obviously, china has a problem with mass stabbings, but it seems to me each instance is less deadly than the mass shootings at school here.
But even disregarding all that, are we not in agreement that knives in general are less lethal?
Yes but I’m not talking about the Jan incident although it seems you’re assuming I am ? The imaginary revolutionaries I’m talking about could be acting for any reason.
Also the people on Jan 6th were acting with the implied support of Trump and his cronies who at that point were desperately looking for ways to release their grip on power.
I’m talking about a group of individuals going against the military with no potential interference or back up from politicians.
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I think they just caught the police with their pants down, and more importantly, the police treated them with kid gloves relative to how they would treat a different group if they tried to storm the capitol. No one fired a shot until it was very obvious the politicians were in danger.
What was the point of this question: “When was the last time someone killed a dozen people with a knife?”
Any attempts to suggest that if guns didn’t exist there would be no mass violence are just a bad way to approach this subject.
If you want to deal with the reality of things, then you need to first think about the reality of things.
It’s been really hard for my mind to process these events that continuously happen in this country. It’s just so horrific. I’m so sick of guns being so available and mental health issues being so ignored
You’re wasting your time and mine now.
I agree 100%, if they had been Black Panthers or BLM activists I imagine the guns would have come out much faster.
The point of the question was to point out that guns are more lethal since someone brought up knife and truck attacks. I nowhere suggested that there would be no mass violence. The suggestion was that mass death could be reduced.
Politicians were not in danger. They had already been moved off site. The armed guard there shot an unarmed woman trying to crawl through a hole for no reason.
woah, hardcore!
Source?
How is that “hardcore”? When parents hand over their kids to a school, they should expect them to be protected as if they were still in their own care.
'Hardcore' in that you already posted data that supports that the vast majority are already safe, due to the relative infrequency of these events.
I agree. I think society, laws, safeguards etc are in place and are likely effective, again given those numbers you posted. But alas there will never be perfect as long as people want to even cut bread.
She was being used as a human shield by her fellow half-a-minutemen.
Roll the tape…
After investigating this a bit more, it appears not everyone left immediately. However, rioters AND those who just walked in unopposed (essentially trespassing) never came face-to-face with any of the representatives.
Because she was stopped, though.
True, but far too many still die from gun violence...not sure if this is a numbers game...
Most ARE safe and will never see violence like those unfortunate families in Uvalde. But why should the training and arming of some, if not all teachers not be used in the rare instance something happens? Why do people have insurance policies? To cover very rare events.
No, she chose to crawl through an opening that was too small for most of the others around her.
I am all for making things safer, so I am ok with reducing gun violence and other types of violence towards that goal.
So that unarmed small woman was a direct threat to that armed guard? That doesn’t seem right.
She was told to stop where she was by an officer of the law with a handgun drawn and aimed, and she had a mob of people behind her ready to follow. Idk, when an officer of the law gives me a command, I don't disobey, especially when they have a drawn gun.