My thoughts on Logic Pro 2 weeks post release...

klownshed · June 2023

@MrSmileZ said:

I’m planning on treating this as a different approach entirely…like a second studio on the go.

That's exactly what I want from Logic on the iPad too. A separate environment with different plug-ins (and apps to feed it loops) but one that removes a huge amount of friction to then transfer anything to the Mac.

ervin · June 2023

@Samu said:

@ervin said:

@MrSmileZ said:
I’m seeing this like a Super Garageband or Garageband Pro

We will get hell if the fanbois see our exchange but you're entirely correct. Treating it as "grown-up Garageband in a suit" is totally the way to go my friend 🤝

LOL, What Hell?!
We're all allowed to have our own opinions right?

It's not even worthy to be called anything 'Pro' at this stage

Who is that "we" you are speaking on behalf of?

Samu · June 2023

@ervin said:

Who is that "we" you are speaking on behalf of?

'We' as in individual human beings.

ervin · June 2023

@Samu said:

@ervin said:

Who is that "we" you are speaking on behalf of?

'We' as in individual human beings.

You're speaking on behalf of individual human beings? Remarkable. 👍 And since I'm taking your question seriously, my reply is I have no authority to allow or disallow opinions so I can't give you a meaningful answer. You should ask the moderators this as they are the ones with the power to disallow the publication of opinions if they break the rules of the forum. I assume they can answer your question.

RajahP · June 2023

@echoopera said:

Thanks…

Looking forward to getting more content.. Hope Apple opens up the store for content producers.. 😉 Those StepSeq Patterns are so amazing..

Simon · June 2023

GarageBand Guide's take:

NoiseHorse · June 2023

I’m curious what you all think: If you Record a vocal (via Mic, Audio interface, iPad mic, whatever is your way) into Logic, and then do the same thing into various other DAWs, does it sound any different to you? If you add each DAW’s in-house basic Compressor and Eq in similar ways with similar effort, how does it sound different? I guess I’m curious of how you perceive the Soundstage of Logic versus other iOS DAWs?

fisherro · June 2023

@mjm1138 said:

The whole deal where you change the orientation of your iPad and suddenly all the knobs on the plugin are rearranged is a little...wonky.

It’s been how many years since the iPhone was introduced? And Springboard still rearranges icons on orientation change instead of them swiveling in place. The company that most championed leveraging our spatial relationship intuition continues to have arguably their flagship UI work actively against it. Apple has long forgotten everything it championed in UX.

Although the “reflow the whole UI” bit is pretty bad, though, I personally love the otherwise straight-forward nature of the plug-ins’ UI.

[Deleted User] · June 2023

@jwmmakerofmusic said:
I really like Logic Pro a lot, but...I still find it rather cumbersome to get an idea up and off the ground. After the first week, I figured "well, I'm still learning the software, it'll take some time", but honestly I was just as slow in the second week as I was in the first week.

So, this is what I did on my iPad Mini 6. I have deleted Pure Synth Platinum off of here (was about 30gb of storage space on a 256gb device), and I have installed the rest of the Korg ecosystem on here (Gadget, its IAPs, and the rest of the Gadget-compatible apps and their IAPs). To be quite honest, I'm much quicker at coming up with music in Gadget. Plus I missed the heck out of iMono/Poly. Honestly there's no synth like it on iOS.

So what about Logic Pro then? Well, when I create an instrumental track, it'll be mixed in Gadget but mastered in Logic Pro. When I create a vocal track, I will create the instrumental, bounce the stems, import into Logic Pro, record my vocals and process those with Brusfri and either Vocal Tune Studio or Bleass Voices, then mix everything down, and then master the track. EPs? Yes, mastered in Logic Pro.

The built-in tools and plugins Logic Pro comes with are absolutely some of the best I've had the pleasure working with. It's that Logic Pro isn't fast enough for my rapid-fire brain when my brain concocts ideas on the fly. 😂 Thank goodness for Gadget.

I love your posts because you try to put as much detail without being boring

Let me asking you this- do you think with Logic your quest for iOS production is at its master stage, meaning your done with DAW and production choices, now it’s just banging out tracks

Or are you still waiting to see? So you like gadget most, and I also feel similarly about dRambo and Cubasis (I joke about bm3 but I don’t expect anything more ) but I really want to see if you think (gadget aside) your at your music making /not AAS stage anymore ?
Last
how do you feel about the built in EQ and Comp and Limiter versus Fabfilter?

What is your finished track with it? Link plz

jwmmakerofmusic · June 2023

@fearandloathing said:

@jwmmakerofmusic said:
I really like Logic Pro a lot, but...I still find it rather cumbersome to get an idea up and off the ground. After the first week, I figured "well, I'm still learning the software, it'll take some time", but honestly I was just as slow in the second week as I was in the first week.

So, this is what I did on my iPad Mini 6. I have deleted Pure Synth Platinum off of here (was about 30gb of storage space on a 256gb device), and I have installed the rest of the Korg ecosystem on here (Gadget, its IAPs, and the rest of the Gadget-compatible apps and their IAPs). To be quite honest, I'm much quicker at coming up with music in Gadget. Plus I missed the heck out of iMono/Poly. Honestly there's no synth like it on iOS.

So what about Logic Pro then? Well, when I create an instrumental track, it'll be mixed in Gadget but mastered in Logic Pro. When I create a vocal track, I will create the instrumental, bounce the stems, import into Logic Pro, record my vocals and process those with Brusfri and either Vocal Tune Studio or Bleass Voices, then mix everything down, and then master the track. EPs? Yes, mastered in Logic Pro.

The built-in tools and plugins Logic Pro comes with are absolutely some of the best I've had the pleasure working with. It's that Logic Pro isn't fast enough for my rapid-fire brain when my brain concocts ideas on the fly. 😂 Thank goodness for Gadget.

I love your posts because you try to put as much detail without being boring

Thanks mate. I try not to be boring with my posts. When it comes to producing Ambient, I actually strive for "boring" and "relaxing", lol.

Let me asking you this- do you think with Logic your quest for iOS production is at its master stage, meaning your done with DAW and production choices, now it’s just banging out tracks

Well I'm like a chameleon in a sense in that I never stay with one production environment for too long. Gadget is my current music creation environment, but here's the thing. No matter which app(s) I use to create the music, the final stop will always be in Logic Pro on iPad from here on out.

Sure, I struggled with actually creating music in Logic Pro itself despite creating two decent tracks 100% in Logic Pro, but honestly I've never found a better solution for mastering music and recording vocals (which used to be Cubasis 3). I'm staying subscribed.

Or are you still waiting to see? So you like gadget most, and I also feel similarly about dRambo and Cubasis (I joke about bm3 but I don’t expect anything more ) but I really want to see if you think (gadget aside) your at your music making /not AAS stage anymore ?

Yeah, honestly until Logic Pro was announced on 9 May, I had no real GAS for anything outside of BA-1 (which I was initially unimpressed with, but grew to love and wanted, and now that I have it, BA-1 is simple but brilliant). Then I had major GAS for Logic Pro, and now that GAS is cured.

Last
how do you feel about the built in EQ and Comp and Limiter versus Fabfilter?

Regarding the EQ, Logic's built-in EQ isn't as feature-packed as Pro-Q3, but honestly I don't need that dynamic EQing nor EQ matching nor any of that fancy stuff. If you've used FL Studio on PC/Mac and remember FL's built-in Parametric EQ 2, Logic's EQ is rather similar to that. No frills, gets the job done.

Then again, if you're looking for an EQ that can apply the sonic fingerprint of one track to another much like Pro-Q3 can do, Logic does have Match EQ as one of the EQs in the arsenal.

Pro-C2 is a great compressor, but in many aspects I prefer Logic's Compressor to Pro-C2. I also use Logic's Compressor in "vintage opto" mode instead of MagicDeathEyeStereo these days in my mastering chain. In my personal opinion, it's just that excellent.

When it comes to limiters, I preferred TB Barricade to Pro-L2. When I want to smash an EDM mix to -8 LuFS (usually to send to EDM DJs as that's the target LuFS level for EDM productions), Barricade with the "loud master" preset has a smoother result to Pro-L2 which can cause audible distortion. However, Logic Pro's adaptive limiter is much simpler to use, and I can get considerably similar results to that of Barricade.

With that said, unless you're sending a track to a DJ to be added to their roster, just master the track to -14 LuFS, which is the target LuFS level for virtually all streaming services. And it preserves the dynamics that much more.

Now you may be wondering "how do I measure LuFS"? Ah, Logic Pro has that covered too with its Loudness Meter.

Logic Pro has pretty much everything one could wish to have for plugins, except maybe a MIDI-controlled autotune type plugin like Waves Tune RT in Cubasis 3. But, Bleass Voices has that covered quite nicely.

What is your finished track with it? Link plz

Well I have three finished tracks. This is the one I created in Gadget and mastered in Logic Pro.

https://forum.audiob.us/discussion/56114/a-happy-birthday-cover-created-in-gadget-2-mastered-in-logic-pro#latest

A cheesy birthday cover for my friend DJ Sash (Sascha Lappessen).

And here are two tracks created entirely in Logic Pro...

"The Geisha" does utilise outside plugins. Gotta get the Asian instruments in the mix somehow. And...

"Desolate Wasteland" utilises only that which comes within Logic Pro itself.

Hope this helps.

dendy · June 2023

@Samu said:

@ervin said:

@MrSmileZ said:
I’m seeing this like a Super Garageband or Garageband Pro

We will get hell if the fanbois see our exchange but you're entirely correct. Treating it as "grown-up Garageband in a suit" is totally the way to go my friend 🤝

LOL, What Hell?!
We're all allowed to have our own opinions right?

It's not even worthy to be called anything 'Pro' at this stage

lol you have balls 🤣 that's even more radical than my ranting about clunky convoluted UI 😂😂

dendy · June 2023

@NoiseHorse said:
I’m curious what you all think: If you Record a vocal (via Mic, Audio interface, iPad mic, whatever is your way) into Logic, and then do the same thing into various other DAWs, does it sound any different to you? If you add each DAW’s in-house basic Compressor and Eq in similar ways with similar effort, how does it sound different? I guess I’m curious of how you perceive the Soundstage of Logic versus other iOS DAWs?

"sound of daw" is myth which was already debunked multiple times ..

logic stock plugins are suoerb tough... in terms of sound they are top league.. in terms of UI on iPad absolute catastrophe 🤣

[Deleted User] · June 2023

@jwmmakerofmusic said:

@fearandloathing said:

@jwmmakerofmusic said:
I really like Logic Pro a lot, but...I still find it rather cumbersome to get an idea up and off the ground. After the first week, I figured "well, I'm still learning the software, it'll take some time", but honestly I was just as slow in the second week as I was in the first week.

So, this is what I did on my iPad Mini 6. I have deleted Pure Synth Platinum off of here (was about 30gb of storage space on a 256gb device), and I have installed the rest of the Korg ecosystem on here (Gadget, its IAPs, and the rest of the Gadget-compatible apps and their IAPs). To be quite honest, I'm much quicker at coming up with music in Gadget. Plus I missed the heck out of iMono/Poly. Honestly there's no synth like it on iOS.

So what about Logic Pro then? Well, when I create an instrumental track, it'll be mixed in Gadget but mastered in Logic Pro. When I create a vocal track, I will create the instrumental, bounce the stems, import into Logic Pro, record my vocals and process those with Brusfri and either Vocal Tune Studio or Bleass Voices, then mix everything down, and then master the track. EPs? Yes, mastered in Logic Pro.

The built-in tools and plugins Logic Pro comes with are absolutely some of the best I've had the pleasure working with. It's that Logic Pro isn't fast enough for my rapid-fire brain when my brain concocts ideas on the fly. 😂 Thank goodness for Gadget.

I love your posts because you try to put as much detail without being boring

Thanks mate. I try not to be boring with my posts. When it comes to producing Ambient, I actually strive for "boring" and "relaxing", lol.

Let me asking you this- do you think with Logic your quest for iOS production is at its master stage, meaning your done with DAW and production choices, now it’s just banging out tracks

Well I'm like a chameleon in a sense in that I never stay with one production environment for too long. Gadget is my current music creation environment, but here's the thing. No matter which app(s) I use to create the music, the final stop will always be in Logic Pro on iPad from here on out.

Sure, I struggled with actually creating music in Logic Pro itself despite creating two decent tracks 100% in Logic Pro, but honestly I've never found a better solution for mastering music and recording vocals (which used to be Cubasis 3). I'm staying subscribed.

Or are you still waiting to see? So you like gadget most, and I also feel similarly about dRambo and Cubasis (I joke about bm3 but I don’t expect anything more ) but I really want to see if you think (gadget aside) your at your music making /not AAS stage anymore ?

Yeah, honestly until Logic Pro was announced on 9 May, I had no real GAS for anything outside of BA-1 (which I was initially unimpressed with, but grew to love and wanted, and now that I have it, BA-1 is simple but brilliant). Then I had major GAS for Logic Pro, and now that GAS is cured.

Last
how do you feel about the built in EQ and Comp and Limiter versus Fabfilter?

Regarding the EQ, Logic's built-in EQ isn't as feature-packed as Pro-Q3, but honestly I don't need that dynamic EQing nor EQ matching nor any of that fancy stuff. If you've used FL Studio on PC/Mac and remember FL's built-in Parametric EQ 2, Logic's EQ is rather similar to that. No frills, gets the job done.

Then again, if you're looking for an EQ that can apply the sonic fingerprint of one track to another much like Pro-Q3 can do, Logic does have Match EQ as one of the EQs in the arsenal.

Pro-C2 is a great compressor, but in many aspects I prefer Logic's Compressor to Pro-C2. I also use Logic's Compressor in "vintage opto" mode instead of MagicDeathEyeStereo these days in my mastering chain. In my personal opinion, it's just that excellent.

When it comes to limiters, I preferred TB Barricade to Pro-L2. When I want to smash an EDM mix to -8 LuFS (usually to send to EDM DJs as that's the target LuFS level for EDM productions), Barricade with the "loud master" preset has a smoother result to Pro-L2 which can cause audible distortion. However, Logic Pro's adaptive limiter is much simpler to use, and I can get considerably similar results to that of Barricade.

With that said, unless you're sending a track to a DJ to be added to their roster, just master the track to -14 LuFS, which is the target LuFS level for virtually all streaming services. And it preserves the dynamics that much more.

Now you may be wondering "how do I measure LuFS"? Ah, Logic Pro has that covered too with its Loudness Meter.

Logic Pro has pretty much everything one could wish to have for plugins, except maybe a MIDI-controlled autotune type plugin like Waves Tune RT in Cubasis 3. But, Bleass Voices has that covered quite nicely.

What is your finished track with it? Link plz

Well I have three finished tracks. This is the one I created in Gadget and mastered in Logic Pro.

https://forum.audiob.us/discussion/56114/a-happy-birthday-cover-created-in-gadget-2-mastered-in-logic-pro#latest

A cheesy birthday cover for my friend DJ Sash (Sascha Lappessen).

And here are two tracks created entirely in Logic Pro...

"The Geisha" does utilise outside plugins. Gotta get the Asian instruments in the mix somehow. And...

"Desolate Wasteland" utilises only that which comes within Logic Pro itself.

Hope this helps.

It does. I appreciate the level of effort in getting into it;Also thank you for sharing the tracks, I like them both. You have a lot of talent.

Desolate wasteland was all in Logic? It is a Pretty impressive daw indeed

jwmmakerofmusic · June 2023

@dendy said:

@NoiseHorse said:
I’m curious what you all think: If you Record a vocal (via Mic, Audio interface, iPad mic, whatever is your way) into Logic, and then do the same thing into various other DAWs, does it sound any different to you? If you add each DAW’s in-house basic Compressor and Eq in similar ways with similar effort, how does it sound different? I guess I’m curious of how you perceive the Soundstage of Logic versus other iOS DAWs?

"sound of daw" is myth which was already debunked multiple times ..

logic stock plugins are suoerb tough... in terms of sound they are top league.. in terms of UI on iPad absolute catastrophe 🤣

But, at least you don't really need an Apple Pencil to control the UI of the plugins like in Fabfilter, Sugarbytes, etc lol. Yeah, the plugin UI isn't the prettiest thing to look at, but for me, I'll take that function over form so long as the form isn't distractingly ugly.

Besides, perhaps Apple will update the UI to the plugins in the next update. This is still 1.0 afterall, and if Apple doesn't update the plugin UI, it's no big tragedy.

@fearandloathing said:

@jwmmakerofmusic said:

@fearandloathing said:

@jwmmakerofmusic said:
I really like Logic Pro a lot, but...I still find it rather cumbersome to get an idea up and off the ground. After the first week, I figured "well, I'm still learning the software, it'll take some time", but honestly I was just as slow in the second week as I was in the first week.

So, this is what I did on my iPad Mini 6. I have deleted Pure Synth Platinum off of here (was about 30gb of storage space on a 256gb device), and I have installed the rest of the Korg ecosystem on here (Gadget, its IAPs, and the rest of the Gadget-compatible apps and their IAPs). To be quite honest, I'm much quicker at coming up with music in Gadget. Plus I missed the heck out of iMono/Poly. Honestly there's no synth like it on iOS.

So what about Logic Pro then? Well, when I create an instrumental track, it'll be mixed in Gadget but mastered in Logic Pro. When I create a vocal track, I will create the instrumental, bounce the stems, import into Logic Pro, record my vocals and process those with Brusfri and either Vocal Tune Studio or Bleass Voices, then mix everything down, and then master the track. EPs? Yes, mastered in Logic Pro.

The built-in tools and plugins Logic Pro comes with are absolutely some of the best I've had the pleasure working with. It's that Logic Pro isn't fast enough for my rapid-fire brain when my brain concocts ideas on the fly. 😂 Thank goodness for Gadget.

I love your posts because you try to put as much detail without being boring

Thanks mate. I try not to be boring with my posts. When it comes to producing Ambient, I actually strive for "boring" and "relaxing", lol.

Let me asking you this- do you think with Logic your quest for iOS production is at its master stage, meaning your done with DAW and production choices, now it’s just banging out tracks

Well I'm like a chameleon in a sense in that I never stay with one production environment for too long. Gadget is my current music creation environment, but here's the thing. No matter which app(s) I use to create the music, the final stop will always be in Logic Pro on iPad from here on out.

Sure, I struggled with actually creating music in Logic Pro itself despite creating two decent tracks 100% in Logic Pro, but honestly I've never found a better solution for mastering music and recording vocals (which used to be Cubasis 3). I'm staying subscribed.

Or are you still waiting to see? So you like gadget most, and I also feel similarly about dRambo and Cubasis (I joke about bm3 but I don’t expect anything more ) but I really want to see if you think (gadget aside) your at your music making /not AAS stage anymore ?

Yeah, honestly until Logic Pro was announced on 9 May, I had no real GAS for anything outside of BA-1 (which I was initially unimpressed with, but grew to love and wanted, and now that I have it, BA-1 is simple but brilliant). Then I had major GAS for Logic Pro, and now that GAS is cured.

Last
how do you feel about the built in EQ and Comp and Limiter versus Fabfilter?

Regarding the EQ, Logic's built-in EQ isn't as feature-packed as Pro-Q3, but honestly I don't need that dynamic EQing nor EQ matching nor any of that fancy stuff. If you've used FL Studio on PC/Mac and remember FL's built-in Parametric EQ 2, Logic's EQ is rather similar to that. No frills, gets the job done.

Then again, if you're looking for an EQ that can apply the sonic fingerprint of one track to another much like Pro-Q3 can do, Logic does have Match EQ as one of the EQs in the arsenal.

Pro-C2 is a great compressor, but in many aspects I prefer Logic's Compressor to Pro-C2. I also use Logic's Compressor in "vintage opto" mode instead of MagicDeathEyeStereo these days in my mastering chain. In my personal opinion, it's just that excellent.

When it comes to limiters, I preferred TB Barricade to Pro-L2. When I want to smash an EDM mix to -8 LuFS (usually to send to EDM DJs as that's the target LuFS level for EDM productions), Barricade with the "loud master" preset has a smoother result to Pro-L2 which can cause audible distortion. However, Logic Pro's adaptive limiter is much simpler to use, and I can get considerably similar results to that of Barricade.

With that said, unless you're sending a track to a DJ to be added to their roster, just master the track to -14 LuFS, which is the target LuFS level for virtually all streaming services. And it preserves the dynamics that much more.

Now you may be wondering "how do I measure LuFS"? Ah, Logic Pro has that covered too with its Loudness Meter.

Logic Pro has pretty much everything one could wish to have for plugins, except maybe a MIDI-controlled autotune type plugin like Waves Tune RT in Cubasis 3. But, Bleass Voices has that covered quite nicely.

What is your finished track with it? Link plz

Well I have three finished tracks. This is the one I created in Gadget and mastered in Logic Pro.

https://forum.audiob.us/discussion/56114/a-happy-birthday-cover-created-in-gadget-2-mastered-in-logic-pro#latest

A cheesy birthday cover for my friend DJ Sash (Sascha Lappessen).

And here are two tracks created entirely in Logic Pro...

"The Geisha" does utilise outside plugins. Gotta get the Asian instruments in the mix somehow. And...

"Desolate Wasteland" utilises only that which comes within Logic Pro itself.

Hope this helps.

It does. I appreciate the level of effort in getting into it;Also thank you for sharing the tracks, I like them both. You have a lot of talent.

Thank you so much mate. God gave me the innate talent towards music and creation, and I put in years and years of work to cultivate the talent. Talent doesn't blossom without being cultivated and practiced a lot.

Desolate wasteland was all in Logic? It is a Pretty impressive daw indeed

Logic Pro is an amazing, wonderful DAW. And though I personally won't always use it for the creation side of music (again, I'm quicker in Gadget), I'm staying subbed. It really is the solution I've been looking for regarding recording vocals, mastering music, mixing stems, etc.

klownshed · June 2023

From what I’ve seen so far, Logic Pro has by far the highest ceiling to what’s possible — and that ceiling is more to do with the iPad itself than Logic.

With every other app or DAW I’ve ever used I hit a roadblock at certain points that require lots of workarounds or just plain stops me in my tracks.

Logic is no where near as quick for me to use in anger on the iPad as it is on the Mac for me, but that’s missing the point entirely.

The iPad brings a clean slate, different plugins and different eco system to feed it. And using the iPad is obviously different to using the Mac. A change is sometimes as good as a rest.

As I’ve mentioned somewhere on this forum before the biggest benefit for me, as a user of Logic on Mac as my primary DAW, Logic Pro on the iPad removes a large layer of friction to get stuff I’m doing on the iPad onto the Mac.

Time will tell how much I use it on the iPad but at least I can dip in and out and not have to pay for it when I am not using it. Having said that I think I’ll sub for the first year though to give the iPad a chance of making it back into my music making on a regular basis.

MrSmileZ · June 2023

Ok I’m a week in…
Logic Pro pros:
1. It’s mobile and much better than garageband
2. Round trip compatibility*
3. The browser
4. New tools to work with, and samplr is back as sample alchemy more or less
5. Sounds great
6. Pencil automation! This is so much of a time saver.
7. User samples possible*
8. Not much latency without an audio interface!
9. Tile are nice…want that on the Mac!
10. Extended quantize from Mac..
11. Midi effects are better graphically here somehow, and all my midi plugs just work YES!
12. I recorded a song using a headphone mic and nobody could tell…that’s just dope!
13. Beat breaker! Need it on Mac please!
14. Play surfaces really come in handy on the road!
15. Feels very groovebox - like!
16. INSPIRING to make music with, more so than on Mac!

Logic Pro cons:
1. It’s going to take a little more time to get around the interface
2. No color changing the interface or different color themes? I could see this being bad for some folks!
3. Importing user patches not straight forward as it should be.
4. Sampler is only a player…and it has no controls at all really? Weird omission.
5. Where’s the rest of Logic pros library, this thing doesn’t have nearly any library with everything installed?
6. I hate the instrument and effect guis in some cases…like for multipressor? Who decided that was how to make it look? Yikes!
7. No notation
8. No channel strips? What the hell already? Hope this is coming…at least I can copy channels I guess…but wow bad move.
9. No full alchemy? What the hell already… package the presets from Logic on Mac up and let me decide what I want.
10. Scales and keys don’t stay locked track by track you have to set each one every time you change a patch.
11. Missing groove template extraction from slices?
12. Going to have to buy fabfilter L2 because toneboosters barricade isn’t near as good…and there is no ozone… yet?
13. I can’t pull up my cpu meter to something I can actually read…it’s teeny and really doesn’t make sense?!
13b. If ButterSynth is eating my entire CPU on a new M2 how was it running at all on my first gen iPad Pro?
14. Sometimes editing is fiddly or stopping on an exact number is not doable…but then there is typing it in step so…yea an extra step.

I need a good cpu meter app? Any recommendations?
Has anyone autosampler any hardware saved it as a MainStage or Logic Pro X patch and successfully ported it over?
Has anyone ported over any sampler, alchemy, or synth patches from Logic Pro x on Mac?

All these things are where I am at one week.
Next week I will update this post.

I already bought the year subscription and erased garageband, cubasis, and Auria pro.
I kept zenbeats (it’s a fantom kinda), Beatmaker 3 for now, and Korg gadget.

No looking back…forward only from here out.

ErrkaPetti · June 2023

@MrSmileZ said:
Ok I’m a week in…
Logic Pro pros:
1. It’s mobile and much better than garageband
2. Round trip compatibility*
3. The browser
4. New tools to work with, and samplr is back as sample alchemy more or less
5. Sounds great
6. Pencil automation! This is so much of a time saver.
7. User samples possible*
8. Not much latency without an audio interface!
9. Tile are nice…want that on the Mac!
10. Extended quantize from Mac..
11. Midi effects are better graphically here somehow, and all my midi plugs just work YES!
12. I recorded a song using a headphone mic and nobody could tell…that’s just dope!
13. Beat breaker! Need it on Mac please!
14. Play surfaces really come in handy on the road!
15. Feels very groovebox - like!
16. INSPIRING to make music with, more so than on Mac!

Logic Pro cons:
1. It’s going to take a little more time to get around the interface
2. No color changing the interface or different color themes? I could see this being bad for some folks!
3. Importing user patches not straight forward as it should be.
4. Sampler is only a player…and it has no controls at all really? Weird omission.
5. Where’s the rest of Logic pros library, this thing doesn’t have nearly any library with everything installed?
6. I hate the instrument and effect guis in some cases…like for multipressor? Who decided that was how to make it look? Yikes!
7. No notation
8. No channel strips? What the hell already? Hope this is coming…at least I can copy channels I guess…but wow bad move.
9. No full alchemy? What the hell already… package the presets from Logic on Mac up and let me decide what I want.
10. Scales and keys don’t stay locked track by track you have to set each one every time you change a patch.
11. Missing groove template extraction from slices?
12. Going to have to buy fabfilter L2 because toneboosters barricade isn’t near as good…and there is no ozone… yet?
13. I can’t pull up my cpu meter to something I can actually read…it’s teeny and really doesn’t make sense?!
13b. If ButterSynth is eating my entire CPU on a new M2 how was it running at all on my first gen iPad Pro?
14. Sometimes editing is fiddly or stopping on an exact number is not doable…but then there is typing it in step so…yea an extra step.

I need a good cpu meter app? Any recommendations?
Has anyone autosampler any hardware saved it as a MainStage or Logic Pro X patch and successfully ported it over?
Has anyone ported over any sampler, alchemy, or synth patches from Logic Pro x on Mac?

All these things are where I am at one week.
Next week I will update this post.

I already bought the year subscription and erased garageband, cubasis, and Auria pro.
I kept zenbeats (it’s a fantom kinda), Beatmaker 3 for now, and Korg gadget.

No looking back…forward only from here out.

What do you mean with:
“ 8. No channel strips? What the hell already? Hope this is coming…at least I can copy channels I guess…but wow bad move.”?

Isn’t it channel strips in the Mixer View, or, do you mean something else?

I have moved EXS24 Instruments between Mac and my iPad - easy…

I have moved over synth patches from Mac to my iPad (including Alchemy) - easy…

Moved even the missing scripts in Scripter MIDI FX…

cytone · June 2023

Scales and keys don’t stay locked track by track you have to set each one every time you change a patch.

The button to change the play surface to keys/chord pads etc has an option at the bottom to lock it.

ErrkaPetti · June 2023

@cytone said:

Scales and keys don’t stay locked track by track you have to set each one every time you change a patch.

The button to change the play surface to keys/chord pads etc has an option at the bottom to lock it.

This is a BIG thing with Logic Pro for iPad - you missed some functionalities, but, they are already there, “hidden”!
RTFM is a good phrase, but, a little boring compare to just flip around in Logic as an maniac…

R_2 · June 2023

@MrSmileZ said:
I need a good cpu meter app? Any recommendations?

https://techet.net/sysstat/

Samu · June 2023

I've got 7 days to go before first chunk of cash heads of to Apple...
...makes me kinda wonder when the next Logic Pro for iPad update will drop?!

There's plenty (like a LOT!) to polish and fix in the app so I do hope the Logic team is not slacking around...
...I will not do any public whining over issue but I will keep on using the app and use the feedback form on a regular basis.

I actually enjoy using Logic Pro for iPad with that said I will not trash the other apps just yet...
...but I may if/once the Files.app gets integrated into the browser in Logic, the Files.app slide-over for import rubs me the wrong way to be honest...

Cheers!

NeuM · June 2023

@Samu said:
I've got 7 days to go before first chunk of cash heads of to Apple...
...makes me kinda wonder when the next Logic Pro for iPad update will drop?!

There's plenty (like a LOT!) to polish and fix in the app so I do hope the Logic team is not slacking around...
...I will not do any public whining over issue but I will keep on using the app and use the feedback form on a regular basis.

I actually enjoy using Logic Pro for iPad with that said I will not trash the other apps just yet...
...but I may if/once the Files.app gets integrated into the browser in Logic, the Files.app slide-over for import rubs me the wrong way to be honest...

Cheers!

I’m wondering when we’ll start to see some of the visual design language updates migrate to the desktop Logic Pro UI?

ErrkaPetti · June 2023

@NeuM said:

@Samu said:
I've got 7 days to go before first chunk of cash heads of to Apple...
...makes me kinda wonder when the next Logic Pro for iPad update will drop?!

There's plenty (like a LOT!) to polish and fix in the app so I do hope the Logic team is not slacking around...
...I will not do any public whining over issue but I will keep on using the app and use the feedback form on a regular basis.

I actually enjoy using Logic Pro for iPad with that said I will not trash the other apps just yet...
...but I may if/once the Files.app gets integrated into the browser in Logic, the Files.app slide-over for import rubs me the wrong way to be honest...

Cheers!

I’m wondering when we’ll start to see some of the visual design language updates migrate to the desktop Logic Pro UI?

Or, the opposite, Mac getting iPad Logics terrible GUI on the plugins!

Really hope Apple is getting an update out just before the 23rd of june, that can make people stay on sub (for those who’ve hesitating on continue with Logic for iPad)…

NeuM · June 2023

@ErrkaPetti said:

@NeuM said:

@Samu said:
I've got 7 days to go before first chunk of cash heads of to Apple...
...makes me kinda wonder when the next Logic Pro for iPad update will drop?!

There's plenty (like a LOT!) to polish and fix in the app so I do hope the Logic team is not slacking around...
...I will not do any public whining over issue but I will keep on using the app and use the feedback form on a regular basis.

I actually enjoy using Logic Pro for iPad with that said I will not trash the other apps just yet...
...but I may if/once the Files.app gets integrated into the browser in Logic, the Files.app slide-over for import rubs me the wrong way to be honest...

Cheers!

I’m wondering when we’ll start to see some of the visual design language updates migrate to the desktop Logic Pro UI?

Or, the opposite, Mac getting iPad Logics terrible GUI on the plugins!

Really hope Apple is getting an update out just before the 23rd of june, that can make people stay on sub (for those who’ve hesitating on continue with Logic for iPad)…

I didn’t mean to suggest the unfinished and “rushed” look of parts of LP iPadOS would become part of the macOS version, I meant the refinement of both UIs.

Stuntman_mike · June 2023

Hmm… I like it, not in love with it for iOS yet. I feel like the lack of MIDI routing options turns me off because it disrupts my workflow. I’m spoiled with AUM.

ErrkaPetti · June 2023

@Stuntman_mike said:
Hmm… I like it, not in love with it for iOS yet. I feel like the lack of MIDI routing options turns me off because it disrupts my workflow. I’m spoiled with AUM.

Rule no 1 - if it’s possible in AUM, we stay in AUM…

No need to use Logic for “basic” things that can be easily done in AUM…

Stuntman_mike · June 2023

@ErrkaPetti said:

@Stuntman_mike said:
Hmm… I like it, not in love with it for iOS yet. I feel like the lack of MIDI routing options turns me off because it disrupts my workflow. I’m spoiled with AUM.

Rule no 1 - if it’s possible in AUM, we stay in AUM…

No need to use Logic for “basic” things that can be easily done in AUM…

Truth. 🙌🏽
Imagine if Logic had routing like AUM…

realdawei · June 2023

I’m totally in even more than before. Never realized how good sculpture was…never tried it on desktop…but it is a a BEAST

NeuM · June 2023

@realdawei said:
I’m totally in even more than before. Never realized how good sculpture was…never tried it on desktop…but it is a a BEAST

It's really fantastic, isn't it? I wonder why no developer has tried to crib this part of Logic Pro as a standalone AUv3 app?

realdawei · June 2023

@NeuM said:

@realdawei said:
I’m totally in even more than before. Never realized how good sculpture was…never tried it on desktop…but it is a a BEAST

It's really fantastic, isn't it? I wonder why no developer has tried to crib this part of Logic Pro as a standalone AUv3 app?

sculpture alone is worth twice the yearly sub of Logic

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My thoughts on Logic Pro 2 weeks post release...

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